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TigerGrowls

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Ohhhh boy!!!



This is hilariously delusional 🤣

Amazon and Microsoft will reportedly leave Washington State if a New Payroll Tax is Passed x.com/BrandiKruse/st…

Socialist State Rep. Shaun Scott says with a straight face that workers could easily form a "collective" and replace Amazon and Microsoft with their own companies.

What should they name their socialist company?
 
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TigerGrowls

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Ridiculous.



SCOTUS: Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson told the Court that presidents should not be able to fire the PhDs & experts who run the government. She even argued presidents should avoid control over transportation & the economy.


In a remarkable exchange in Trump v Slaughter, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson claimed the president should have no power to fire expert bureaucrats. She said economists, PhDs, scientists, & transportation officials should operate beyond presidential reach. Such a view would carve the heart out of Article II & cement rule by permanent insiders rather than elected leadership. Jackson’s theory elevates the deep state over the voters who choose a president. That is a constitutional revolution in plain sight.


h/t @Badhombre
 

Moogy

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Ah, so are you the crazy grandpa that posts misleading/inaccurate facebook memes, and everyone rolls their eyes?

Or are you the single uncle that no one wants to invite to family functions because he's such a MAGAt, no one can stand him?

Honduras has nearly 11M people, not 8.2M. They greatly reduced their homicide rate (which isn't the highest in the world), through better enforcement of the law (including firearms regs), via better trained officers. A large portion of their violent crime problem is illegal guns, trafficked from the US. Maybe they should start bombing US ships to attempt to force us to stop fueling their problems?

Oh, and firearm ownership is quite legal in Honduras. Prior to 1985 (you know, when it was under military rule), it wasn't regulated at all. When it transformed into a democracy, it started to regulate firearms, as all democracies do ... but they were still quite legal.

Gun culture

Hondurans and the laws of Honduras have had an individual freedom centered view on firearms.[8] Guns are carried openly in the countryside as a demonstration of machismo and virility.[9] Citizens of Honduras and non-citizens who are legal residents of the country may own handguns, shotguns, or rifles under the types and calibers permitted by law. Firearms may be used for the purpose of hunting, competition, target practice, home protection, work protection, personal safety and any other hobby or recreational activity permitted by law. Because of the rise in crime, gun ownership in the home, business establishment and while working (such as delivery drivers, taxi drivers, and truckers) has become common.[9] Anyone visiting a city in Honduras will immediately notice armed guards in virtually every establishment including restaurants, grocery stores, and everyday businesses.[10] "No Weapons Allowed" signs can be seen in certain places reminding patrons to leave their firearms at home when conducting business with them. Besides the common frisk when entering a building, some establishments have gone as far as installing metal detectors to make sure visitors are unarmed when entering. Rise in crime has brought some politicians to think the best way to protect citizens is from entirely banning firearms from civilians.[11] In 2009, there were 220,000 registered guns in private ownership in addition to an estimated 500,000 illegal guns.[9] There is an active black market for firearms. Though officially banned, AK-47 rifles can be purchased for about $500.[9]

Would you look at that? So, a culture that celebrates guns promoted heightened gun violence? Who woulda thunk it?

Switzerland, in contrast, has about 9M people now. Was your meme taken from the heydey of facebook fake memery, by any chance? It doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the world, although it is low - one of the lowest in the world. It does NOT require citizens to own guns. It has a robust and strict firearms regulatory structure. Switzerland requires military service for men, and requires them to have their firearm at home during that time, but there are strict regulations around storage/use, and these guns are government-owned. Most firearms require a permit to possess, and open carry isn't generally allowed, with exceptions for "necessary" use (like being an armed security guard), and a privilege granted only after passing special testing and background checks.


So, other than being completely wrong ... good job.
 
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Moogy

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It really didn't happen.

The number of registered voters in the United States is much higher than 133 million, but approximately 159 million votes were cast in the 2020 general election.
The figure of 133 million registered voters is an outdated or incorrect statistic that has been used in false claims about election results.
Here are the correct statistics, primarily from the 2020 election:

  • Registered Voters: There were over 209 million active registered voters for the 2020 general election. Other sources estimate the figure between 195 million and 215 million, depending on data analysis methods.
  • Votes Cast: The number of ballots counted was approximately 158 million to 161 million. The figure of 159 million is a commonly cited estimate for the total votes cast.
  • Voter Turnout: The turnout rate in 2020 was a historic high, with 67.7% of the citizen voting-age population casting ballots.
The number of votes cast was significantly less than the total number of registered voters, meaning there were many millions of registered voters who did not cast a ballot.

Again, are you the old, mentally infirm grandpa being hoodwinked by the lies propagated by right wing trolls paid to promote knowingly false propaganda? Or are you part of the machine knowingly pumping out false info?

You can basically go through each one of these things and point out obvious lies, or misleading characterizations that destroy their suggested "reality."

Yet, you keep persisting on posting them. Why? Because "alternative facts" and the alternate reality in which they exist as true has become acceptable to MAGAts?
 

TigerGrowls

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Ah, so are you the crazy grandpa that posts misleading/inaccurate facebook memes, and everyone rolls their eyes?

Or are you the single uncle that no one wants to invite to family functions because he's such a MAGAt, no one can stand him?

Honduras has nearly 11M people, not 8.2M. They greatly reduced their homicide rate (which isn't the highest in the world), through better enforcement of the law (including firearms regs), via better trained officers. A large portion of their violent crime problem is illegal guns, trafficked from the US. Maybe they should start bombing US ships to attempt to force us to stop fueling their problems?

Oh, and firearm ownership is quite legal in Honduras. Prior to 1985 (you know, when it was under military rule), it wasn't regulated at all. When it transformed into a democracy, it started to regulate firearms, as all democracies do ... but they were still quite legal.

Gun culture

Hondurans and the laws of Honduras have had an individual freedom centered view on firearms.[8] Guns are carried openly in the countryside as a demonstration of machismo and virility.[9] Citizens of Honduras and non-citizens who are legal residents of the country may own handguns, shotguns, or rifles under the types and calibers permitted by law. Firearms may be used for the purpose of hunting, competition, target practice, home protection, work protection, personal safety and any other hobby or recreational activity permitted by law. Because of the rise in crime, gun ownership in the home, business establishment and while working (such as delivery drivers, taxi drivers, and truckers) has become common.[9] Anyone visiting a city in Honduras will immediately notice armed guards in virtually every establishment including restaurants, grocery stores, and everyday businesses.[10] "No Weapons Allowed" signs can be seen in certain places reminding patrons to leave their firearms at home when conducting business with them. Besides the common frisk when entering a building, some establishments have gone as far as installing metal detectors to make sure visitors are unarmed when entering. Rise in crime has brought some politicians to think the best way to protect citizens is from entirely banning firearms from civilians.[11] In 2009, there were 220,000 registered guns in private ownership in addition to an estimated 500,000 illegal guns.[9] There is an active black market for firearms. Though officially banned, AK-47 rifles can be purchased for about $500.[9]

Would you look at that? So, a culture that celebrates guns promoted heightened gun violence? Who woulda thunk it?

Switzerland, in contrast, has about 9M people now. Was your meme taken from the heydey of facebook fake memery, by any chance? It doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the world, although it is low - one of the lowest in the world. It does NOT require citizens to own guns. It has a robust and strict firearms regulatory structure. Switzerland requires military service for men, and requires them to have their firearm at home during that time, but there are strict regulations around storage/use, and these guns are government-owned. Most firearms require a permit to possess, and open carry isn't generally allowed, with exceptions for "necessary" use (like being an armed security guard), and a privilege granted only after passing special testing and background checks.


So, other than being completely wrong ... good job.
I am right. You are just arguing over the population numbers. Now go ahead and explain the gun murder rates in large American cities with strict gun laws.
 

TigerGrowls

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It really didn't happen.

The number of registered voters in the United States is much higher than 133 million, but approximately 159 million votes were cast in the 2020 general election.
The figure of 133 million registered voters is an outdated or incorrect statistic that has been used in false claims about election results.
Here are the correct statistics, primarily from the 2020 election:

  • Registered Voters: There were over 209 million active registered voters for the 2020 general election. Other sources estimate the figure between 195 million and 215 million, depending on data analysis methods.
  • Votes Cast: The number of ballots counted was approximately 158 million to 161 million. The figure of 159 million is a commonly cited estimate for the total votes cast.
  • Voter Turnout: The turnout rate in 2020 was a historic high, with 67.7% of the citizen voting-age population casting ballots.
The number of votes cast was significantly less than the total number of registered voters, meaning there were many millions of registered voters who did not cast a ballot.

Again, are you the old, mentally infirm grandpa being hoodwinked by the lies propagated by right wing trolls paid to promote knowingly false propaganda? Or are you part of the machine knowingly pumping out false info?

You can basically go through each one of these things and point out obvious lies, or misleading characterizations that destroy their suggested "reality."

Yet, you keep persisting on posting them. Why? Because "alternative facts" and the alternate reality in which they exist as true has become acceptable to MAGAts?
2020 mass election fraud will be proven.
 

Moogy

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I am right. You are just arguing over the population numbers. Now go ahead and explain the gun murder rates in large American cities with strict gun laws.

So, you ignored the fact that you were shown to be wrong on the merits in order to say you are right. Brilliant.

Again, guns are heavily regulated in Switzerland, and only members of the military are required to have a gun (subject to strict handling and storage laws), which isn't theirs, but goes back to the military upon completion of service (unless they want to buy them).

And guns are allowed in Honduras. They have a pro-gun culture, like ours. And their gun violence problems are exacerbated, to a large degree, by the nearly infinite amount of guns they can traffic back to Honduras from our horrible attempt to regulate guns, because of the terrorist organization for profit known as the NRA.

Again, other than being completely wrong, you were right. You're definitely a MAGAt to your core. No integrity. No honor. A man who lacks integrity and honor is no man at all. You, sir, are not a man.
 
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Moogy

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2020 mass election fraud will be proven.

So, you outright lied, via a meme, and when called out on your lie, you just double down on another falsehood? You have no integrity. No honor. You're just a troll.
 

TigerGrowls

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So, you outright lied, via a meme, and when called out on your lie, you just double down on another falsehood? You have no integrity. No honor. You're just a troll.
Another term is im right and you are wrong.
 

JohnHughsPartner

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Ah, so are you the crazy grandpa that posts misleading/inaccurate facebook memes, and everyone rolls their eyes?

Or are you the single uncle that no one wants to invite to family functions because he's such a MAGAt, no one can stand him?

Honduras has nearly 11M people, not 8.2M. They greatly reduced their homicide rate (which isn't the highest in the world), through better enforcement of the law (including firearms regs), via better trained officers. A large portion of their violent crime problem is illegal guns, trafficked from the US. Maybe they should start bombing US ships to attempt to force us to stop fueling their problems?

Oh, and firearm ownership is quite legal in Honduras. Prior to 1985 (you know, when it was under military rule), it wasn't regulated at all. When it transformed into a democracy, it started to regulate firearms, as all democracies do ... but they were still quite legal.

Gun culture

Hondurans and the laws of Honduras have had an individual freedom centered view on firearms.[8] Guns are carried openly in the countryside as a demonstration of machismo and virility.[9] Citizens of Honduras and non-citizens who are legal residents of the country may own handguns, shotguns, or rifles under the types and calibers permitted by law. Firearms may be used for the purpose of hunting, competition, target practice, home protection, work protection, personal safety and any other hobby or recreational activity permitted by law. Because of the rise in crime, gun ownership in the home, business establishment and while working (such as delivery drivers, taxi drivers, and truckers) has become common.[9] Anyone visiting a city in Honduras will immediately notice armed guards in virtually every establishment including restaurants, grocery stores, and everyday businesses.[10] "No Weapons Allowed" signs can be seen in certain places reminding patrons to leave their firearms at home when conducting business with them. Besides the common frisk when entering a building, some establishments have gone as far as installing metal detectors to make sure visitors are unarmed when entering. Rise in crime has brought some politicians to think the best way to protect citizens is from entirely banning firearms from civilians.[11] In 2009, there were 220,000 registered guns in private ownership in addition to an estimated 500,000 illegal guns.[9] There is an active black market for firearms. Though officially banned, AK-47 rifles can be purchased for about $500.[9]

Would you look at that? So, a culture that celebrates guns promoted heightened gun violence? Who woulda thunk it?

Switzerland, in contrast, has about 9M people now. Was your meme taken from the heydey of facebook fake memery, by any chance? It doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the world, although it is low - one of the lowest in the world. It does NOT require citizens to own guns. It has a robust and strict firearms regulatory structure. Switzerland requires military service for men, and requires them to have their firearm at home during that time, but there are strict regulations around storage/use, and these guns are government-owned. Most firearms require a permit to possess, and open carry isn't generally allowed, with exceptions for "necessary" use (like being an armed security guard), and a privilege granted only after passing special testing and background checks.


So, other than being completely wrong ... good job.
Did they call you “jawbone” back when you played trumpet in high school? There s absolutely no way you played competitive sports
 
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Did they call you “jawbone” back when you played trumpet in high school? There s absolutely no way you played competitive sports

You seem to have some knowledge of putting hard things on your lips and blowing ... not that there's anything wrong with that, princess.

Played a "competitive sport" in college.

That doesn't mean I'd be dumb enough to believe one of TigerGrowls' lying memes. But you apparently are, Brokeback.
 

TigerGrowls

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You seem to have some knowledge of putting hard things on your lips and blowing ... not that there's anything wrong with that, princess.

Played a "competitive sport" in college.

That doesn't mean I'd be dumb enough to believe one of TigerGrowls' lying memes. But you apparently are, Brokeback.
Refute this logic or rather lack of from your liberal leaders.

 
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Refute this logic or rather lack of from your liberal leaders.


So, your response to being proven unequivocally and indisputably wrong about 2 of your memes is to not acknowledge you were incorrect, and, instead, just spew out another one?! This is why you'll never get logical people on your side - you only have the mentally infirm.

This is why there's so much overlap between MAGAts and conspiracy nutters ... they both have no use for logic, both take no accountability for their lies, false accusations and misrepresentations, and both just keep on throwing craziness out there, even in the face of evidence that what they're saying is obviously wrong.
 
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TigerGrowls

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So, your response to being proven unequivocally and indisputably wrong about 2 of your memes is to not acknowledge you were incorrect, and, instead, just spew out another one?! This is why you'll never get logical people on your side - you only have the mentally infirm.

This is why there's so much overlap between MAGAts and conspiracy nutters ... they both have no use for logic, both take no accountability for their lies, false accusations and misrepresentations, and both just keep on throwing craziness out there, even in the face of evidence that what they're saying is obviously wrong.
I will give you credit for typing a lot of words without saying anything. Lol!!!
 
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dpic73

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I will give you credit for typing a lot of words without saying anything. Lol!!!
Not shocking that you can't make sense of this easy to understand statement, so I will condense and simplify it in language you can understand.

Magats are not smart.
 
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Ah, so are you the crazy grandpa that posts misleading/inaccurate facebook memes, and everyone rolls their eyes?

Or are you the single uncle that no one wants to invite to family functions because he's such a MAGAt, no one can stand him?

Honduras has nearly 11M people, not 8.2M. They greatly reduced their homicide rate (which isn't the highest in the world), through better enforcement of the law (including firearms regs), via better trained officers. A large portion of their violent crime problem is illegal guns, trafficked from the US. Maybe they should start bombing US ships to attempt to force us to stop fueling their problems?

Oh, and firearm ownership is quite legal in Honduras. Prior to 1985 (you know, when it was under military rule), it wasn't regulated at all. When it transformed into a democracy, it started to regulate firearms, as all democracies do ... but they were still quite legal.

Gun culture

Hondurans and the laws of Honduras have had an individual freedom centered view on firearms.[8] Guns are carried openly in the countryside as a demonstration of machismo and virility.[9] Citizens of Honduras and non-citizens who are legal residents of the country may own handguns, shotguns, or rifles under the types and calibers permitted by law. Firearms may be used for the purpose of hunting, competition, target practice, home protection, work protection, personal safety and any other hobby or recreational activity permitted by law. Because of the rise in crime, gun ownership in the home, business establishment and while working (such as delivery drivers, taxi drivers, and truckers) has become common.[9] Anyone visiting a city in Honduras will immediately notice armed guards in virtually every establishment including restaurants, grocery stores, and everyday businesses.[10] "No Weapons Allowed" signs can be seen in certain places reminding patrons to leave their firearms at home when conducting business with them. Besides the common frisk when entering a building, some establishments have gone as far as installing metal detectors to make sure visitors are unarmed when entering. Rise in crime has brought some politicians to think the best way to protect citizens is from entirely banning firearms from civilians.[11] In 2009, there were 220,000 registered guns in private ownership in addition to an estimated 500,000 illegal guns.[9] There is an active black market for firearms. Though officially banned, AK-47 rifles can be purchased for about $500.[9]

Would you look at that? So, a culture that celebrates guns promoted heightened gun violence? Who woulda thunk it?

Switzerland, in contrast, has about 9M people now. Was your meme taken from the heydey of facebook fake memery, by any chance? It doesn't have the lowest homicide rate in the world, although it is low - one of the lowest in the world. It does NOT require citizens to own guns. It has a robust and strict firearms regulatory structure. Switzerland requires military service for men, and requires them to have their firearm at home during that time, but there are strict regulations around storage/use, and these guns are government-owned. Most firearms require a permit to possess, and open carry isn't generally allowed, with exceptions for "necessary" use (like being an armed security guard), and a privilege granted only after passing special testing and background checks.


So, other than being completely wrong ... good job.
This here ^^ is some serious pwnage. Ouch. That's gotta sting, TG.
 

Moogy

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Nope. If I had a thin skin I wouldn't post on this board.

It's not about having thin skin, or being tough ... that's something that's only relevant with regard to insults.

This, instead, is about you lying. The thickness of your skin has nothing to do with you being caught outright lying (here, via memes).

So, if I sat here calling you a poopyhead, and it didn't phase you, you could "brag" about not having a thin skin. But if you say 2+2=5, and you're called out on it, you continuing to post more lies isn't evidence of having thick skin. It's evidence of you being thick in the head ... or just being a lying piece of crap.

Understand, perpetual, obsessive liar?
 
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I just watched about a half hour of the House live on C-span. I'm pretty certain there are at least 2 GOP members who are legit illiterate.
 

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What's wrong with it?
well, you make it seem as if tarriff's, by themselves, have caused farmer's dilemmas. Now, I will agree, that although not 100% pertinent, tariffs on items like coffee, bananas made little sense. On the other hand, farmers had problems well before tariffs, with some (energy/fuel/fertilizer) generated by government policy and others by natural causes - bird flu, screw worm, weather.

It's not easy being a farmer, and I don't believe this is the first time farmers have received government subsidies - and likely won't be the last.

Just to be clear, I'm not a fan of the use of tariffs as a means of government policy solely for the apparent purpose we're using them. But, tariffs have been around maybe since the creation of our country.
 
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I just watched about a half hour of the House live on C-span. I'm pretty certain there are at least 2 GOP members who are legit illiterate.
you're either not looking hard enough, or you didn't watch long enough.....now do democrats.
 
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TigerGrowls

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It's not about having thin skin, or being tough ... that's something that's only relevant with regard to insults.

This, instead, is about you lying. The thickness of your skin has nothing to do with you being caught outright lying (here, via memes).

So, if I sat here calling you a poopyhead, and it didn't phase you, you could "brag" about not having a thin skin. But if you say 2+2=5, and you're called out on it, you continuing to post more lies isn't evidence of having thick skin. It's evidence of you being thick in the head ... or just being a lying piece of crap.

Understand, perpetual, obsessive liar?
Lol!!! I believe and endorse the vast majority of what I post. The other small percentage of stuff i post is just the sake of discussion.