Libs on the board upset that Trump wants to renegotiate NAFTA, but guess who else wanted to?
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Opposing Trump's trade policies/strategy does not equal opposing NAFTA renegotiation. Don't be such a black and white simpleton.
After reading posts from some libs on the board, they clearly do not want to renegotiate NAFTA. I can assure you, that if Hillary won and wanted to renegotiate, they would support her. You can read their posts on a thread or two.
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And you would trash her. I'm not arguing "libs" are above the same partisan hackery that you display, just that speaking in absolutes is silly.
No, I am a conservative populist. I like trade, as any sane person would, but we are getting destroyed. Have you seen our trade deficits? We need to trade but we need truly fair trade. And we need to create good paying jobs for the middle class, the Forgotten Man, otherwise our capitalistic system is in grave jeopardy. The inequality will create chaos.
I would have supported Hillary's renegotiation of NAFTA but held back until I know the results of that renegotiation.
Libs on this board never said they were against renegotiating NAFTA.
Libs on this board are saying Nieto is telling Trump to go pound sand. He doesn't have to renegotiate.
You seem awfully upset over this. You have started three different threads on this today alone. If you are this upset, I can only imagine how upset Trump is.
I guess we should expect a few tweets.
Libs on this board are saying Nieto is telling Trump to go pound sand. He doesn't have to renegotiate.
You seem awfully upset over this. You have started three different threads on this today alone. If you are this upset, I can only imagine how upset Trump is.
I guess we should expect a few tweets.
You're not being honest. You claimed how hard it was to renegotiate. Read your posts. Any sane person would think you opposed renegotiation and applaud Nieto's refusal to do so.
I'm not upset just love pointing out such obvious lib hypocrisy.
Can you show me where I said I was opposed to renegotiation?
You implied support for both Nieto and NAFTA. Too hard to renegotiate. Nieto can just say F U. I know you would have sung a far different tune had Hillary been the one leading the charge over NAFTA renegotiation.
So, I assume you support Trump's efforts on both TPP and NAFTA?
You realize how that would be even more of idiotic move. Let's see, we negotiate so I at least get something, or I don't negotiate, and the other party cancels and provides nothing. I hope you have enough time in Gov't that you can either retire or people more junior than you are let go. You will not survive in the private sector.
You're 1000% wrong. The U.S. can revoke a treaty with support from the Senate. We have walked away from treaties before.
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5338&context=faculty_scholarship
That's a treaty. This is a trade agreement...between three countries. There are consequences.
Furthermore, don't you think that all the American companies that have factories in Mexico would raise a stink? Trump could not endure the ramifications.
The idiocy is astounding.
You're the idiot. A trade agreement can be revoked with Senate approval. But you're either too stupid or too ideological to comprehend. If Trump were Obama he would simply issue an Executive Order revoking the agreement. The Constitution hasn't seemed to bother him before.
If Nieto refused to negotiate then one option available would be for Trump and the Senate to revoke the trade agreement. That isn't going to stop those factories from operating. Trump and the Senate could then agree to terms of goods flowing from Mexico into the United States if Nieto won't cooperate. They could also prevent the flow of the $28B in funds that Mexicans send to Mexico annually if he doesn't cooperate. Trump and the U.S. hold all the cards. If Nieto puts a tariff on goods flowing from the U.S. to Mexico, then he starts a trade war. It is his and his country's best interest to renegotiate. Canada has already agreed to. They understand where the power lies.
Senate approval for an international trade agreement?
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You brought your A game today.
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http://articles.latimes.com/1993-11-21/news/mn-59485_1_trade-pact
Senate approves NAFTA on 61 - 38 vote. My God you really are this stupid.
That was to enter the agreement. It is an INTERNATIONAL agreement between the US, Canada and Mexico. The U.S Senate cannot just decide "we are walking away".
My god, this is like our "median" argument all over again. When you have been shown you are a complete idiot and completely wrong, you continue to argue. I know you're pissed because Trump has misled you into thinking that he holds all the cards and he is the best deal maker in the world.
Please be careful not to fall and smack your head. Backpeddling can be dangerous.
Just like you can do calculus. [laughing]
Seriously, you think the US Senate alone has the power to void an INTERNATIONAL agreement?
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A trade agreement can be abrogated with the President and the Legislative Branch approval. Don't need international bodies involved. Don't need the trading partner involved. We can simply walk away.