Lights burning brighter for Bernie....
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No unless someone is going to charge her with a crime. Didn't everyone already know that this was all her fault? Thanks to the State Department for releasing a report confirming it though.
In a way you're kind of asking two different questions. Is it significant? And, will it influence any votes?
If people approached politics in a reasoned and rational manner, this would be a big deal. But they don't. People are entrenched and there's almost nothing that's going to move them from their position.
I've said all along that this is a big deal. At one point I mentioned all of the layers of cyber security that would have been in place if she had used the DOS email that wouldn't be in place on her own email server at her home. Any of the rest of us would lose our clearance at a minimum, and would potentially face prosecution as well.
No question she's a turd, a fool, a liar and possibly a criminal but imo Trump is still a worse choice. If she gets indicted for a crime soon then obviously her candidacy will be over with but barring that, I'll probably vote for her which will actually be a protest vote against Trump. Worst. Candidates. Ever.But the report says that the Inspector General's office "found no evidence that the Secretary requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email account on her private server."
I'm sure the FBI doesn't really care about this part either.
Actually they don't -- they already knew that she made the decision to use that server without bothering to see if it violated any laws or even Department guidelines. The FBI is focusing on whether she mishandled classified information and what, if anything, she could be indicted for.But the report says that the Inspector General's office "found no evidence that the Secretary requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email account on her private server."
I'm sure the FBI doesn't really care about this part either.
And what if she had checked, and was told at the very least it was a bad idea -- which she has acknowledged under duress that it was -- and she told IRM and Diplomatic Security to pound sand because she was the Secretary (and I can certainly believe that she might have done). Then what? It's not like they could have forced her to use the Department's unclassified network, which was itself hacked in the fall of 2014.
I've read right here on this board, the left leaning members of the board couldn't care less about it. They still don't think what she did was anything of significance.
I'm not in agreement with you on their level of caring. It factors into the degree of negligence she showed towards safeguarding sensitive material. Most of the time, even in security matters like this, if an attempt was made and you just make the wrong call, then there will be more leeway given. In this case, she has claimed she made an attempt, which clearly she didn't. According to the article she even went so far as to discourage inquiries into it. That speaks volumes and shows at a minimum, intent, which surpasses basic negligence.
“In November 2010, Secretary Clinton and her Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations discussed the fact that Secretary Clinton’s emails to Department employees were not being received,” the report said. “The Deputy Chief of Staff emailed the Secretary that “we should talk about putting you on state email or releasing your email address to the department so you are not going to spam.” In response, the Secretary wrote, “Let’s get separate address or device but I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”
She was advised to get with govt program. She allowed government secrets, including Top Secrets, to be put in jeopardy. That exposure is a felony - true or false? She dumped records that should have been saved.(Nixon should have had her as a lawyer). She signed affidavit on termination that was false - felony? She is easy meat if they want her. Her strength is her politics - not innocence.
I'm actually shocked at this post to be honest. I really can't believe how anyone could state with such insistence that someone who legitimately put National Security at risk for the purpose of sidestepping FOIA due to future political plans in what amounts to numerous felony related charges could be considered a better choice than a narcissistic blowhard. Even better, some of you all voted for her in the Primaries with the full knowledge of this information.To a person on here, everyone of you on the left have said that in the general when she inevitably wins the DNC nomination you will support her. And you all have the audacity to look down your nose at people in the GOP for their beliefs. Banter back and forth over Obama is one thing. Debating the merits of Trump is another. You all are knowingly supporting someone who if not for her name and position would have been indicted many many months ago. I still think she will be and the only reason its taking this long is because they are building an ironclad case against her so that it doesn't look like a political witch hunt.
Talking to people who were Never Trump I can basically sum up what they say now as this: Trump says some terrible things; Clinton does some terrible things. Some of the people I thought would never support Trump are lining up.
She would be just as reckless as POTUS. Rule of law means nothing to her. She is not qualified to be President.
She's not to be admired for what she's done regarding the server but what harm has occurred? Maybe something that is yet to be learned. I know of nothing serious right now so all the jumping up and down over this gets a shoulder shrug. Overall, she'll maintain the status quo of crooked, crony politics that we're used to. I view the Donald as potentially incompetent and someone that could really put the nation at risk and/or set us way back with some groups/countries that we get along with now and to me he's just more embarrassing of a commander in chief than she. It's a choice between two bad alternatives and she gets the vote. She's the devil I know, as they say.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of a secret email to conduct official business broke a number of department policies, an inspector general concluded in a report sent to Capitol Hill Wednesday that also suggests she used the account to try to hide her communications from the public.
The 83-page report is devastating in its evaluation of Mrs. Clinton’s behavior, saying it can find no record of her getting approval from either security or legal staffers for her unique arrangement. The report also undercuts many of her campaign’s explanations for her use of the system, dismisses comparisons to her predecessors’ email use, and points to repeated hacking attempts that she failed to report.
After one of the 2011 hack attempts Mrs. Clinton’s tech staffer shut the server down for a few minutes, hoping that would solve the situation, but quickly warned top aides not to send Mrs. Clinton “anything sensitive” after the attempted breach, according to the report.
The 83-page report is devastating in its evaluation of Mrs. Clinton’s behavior, saying it can find no record of her getting approval from either security or legal staffers for her unique arrangement. The report also undercuts many of her campaign’s explanations for her use of the system, dismisses comparisons to her predecessors’ email use, and points to repeated hacking attempts that she failed to report.
After one of the 2011 hack attempts Mrs. Clinton’s tech staffer shut the server down for a few minutes, hoping that would solve the situation, but quickly warned top aides not to send Mrs. Clinton “anything sensitive” after the attempted breach, according to the report.
This is comical. You clowns would vote for Hitler if he had D beside his name. It is shameless how far you guys will go to find an excuse to vote party. I am embarrassed.
Had you nimrods chosen wisely with Kasich, I would have been all over it. But no, the Trump Party wants to build a wall, kill terrorist families, and steal Iraqi oils fields. Plus this pot calling kettle black. All you Cruz and Rubio supporters are going right along the R path with a candidate who is anything but an R.
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Very appropriate response and observation. Do hope you are right about prosecuting a case. Something else was developing a week or so back that I thought it would be used as trade off.
And I thought the Jackie Gleason outfit was very sharp.
You would have voted for Hillary. Its no mistake that the one republican you can support over the worst fuking criminal to ever run just happened to be the guy who never had a chance to win.
LOL..I really was a Kasich supporter. Trump is no Kasich. I'll wait for the DoJ to judge Hillary. a wall? Really? do you think that will happen in our lifetime? get a f'n clue....
Yeah. I am the one who needs a clue. Your tech is telling his buddies about his moron boss.
Interesting you said that.. several weeks ago Trump said he had a plan for zeroing our debt in 10 yrs....I told my tech to tell the rest of us how this will work.....crickets......Trump is raising taxes on the rich and that's just a start. he has no clue how govt works.
I voted Kasich as well... and baring shocking outcome at the convention I'll be voting Libertarian come November.
No way in hell I'd ever vote for, or condone voting for, Hillary Clinton just because I don't like Donald Trump.