Lights burning brighter for Bernie....

DvlDog4WVU

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I voted Kasich as well... and baring shocking outcome at the convention I'll be voting Libertarian come November.

No way in hell I'd ever vote for, or condone voting for, Hillary Clinton just because I don't like Donald Trump.
It really is telling about individuals who would vote for her, not sure how anyone with a shred of principles could cast a vote for someone of her character and transgressions.
 

dave

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Interesting you said that.. several weeks ago Trump said he had a plan for zeroing our debt in 10 yrs....I told my tech to tell the rest of us how this will work.....crickets......Trump is raising taxes on the rich and that's just a start. he has no clue how govt works.
At least Trump is talking about debt and Americas finances. Hillary is lining up foundation donors via selling out taxpayers.
 

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Had you nimrods chosen wisely with Kasich, I would have been all over it. But no, the Trump Party wants to build a wall, kill terrorist families, and steal Iraqi oils fields. Plus this pot calling kettle black. All you Cruz and Rubio supporters are going right along the R path with a candidate who is anything but an R.

Quite a big paintbrush you got there pal.
 

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It really is telling about individuals who would vote for her, not sure how anyone with a shred of principles could cast a vote for someone of her character and transgressions.
How could anyone vote for a conspiracy theorist?
 

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How could anyone vote for a conspiracy theorist?
Someone unable to see the big picture and understand the various issues with th the big picture due to be blinded by an agenda. You responded to one of those types but he has a lot of company.
 

dave

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Someone unable to see the big picture and understand the various issues with th the big picture due to be blinded by an agenda. You responded to one of those types but he has a lot of company.
 

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Someone unable to see the big picture and understand the various issues with th the big picture due to be blinded by an agenda. You responded to one of those types but he has a lot of company.
Riiiiiiiiight. I'm not blinded by agenda, if I were I would vote party line, since I'm not, I'm voting 3rd party. I won't be voting for Trump, and I'm damn sure not voting for her.

Justify it however you want. She wasn't serving some greater purpose by doing what she did. The reality is you have low character, low standards, and a lack principles or at the least very willin to compromise them if you're willing to debase yourself by voting for someone who knowingly put their self interests before that of the office she served.

If you talk with anyone that deals with security related issues, they will all tell you to a man, if it was anyone other than her, they would have long been convicted and had their clearance pulled.
 

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How could anyone vote for a conspiracy theorist?
Vote for Bernie, vote 3rd party, vote for anyone other than those two. Don't compromise yourself because you think you have to vote for one of those two morons.
 

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Vote for Bernie, vote 3rd party, vote for anyone other than those two. Don't compromise yourself because you think you have to vote for one of those two morons.
I'm really the only person I feel is right for the job, but I don't want that hassle. Is Jack Bauer still alive?
 

moe

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Vote for Bernie, vote 3rd party, vote for anyone other than those two. Don't compromise yourself because you think you have to vote for one of those two morons.
You may as well just stay home if it weren't for all the other races.
 

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[eyeroll][roll]
Not sure what is funny about that.

You can not see what she has done and still cast a vote for her without compromising your integrity, assuming you even understand what she has done. I get that some of you are morons, so it's possible to vote for her with a clear conscience. Sadly, that actually says more about you though than it does the process.
 

moe

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Not sure what is funny about that.

You can not see what she has done and still cast a vote for her without compromising your integrity, assuming you even understand what she has done. I get that some of you are morons, so it's possible to vote for her with a clear conscience. Sadly, that actually says more about you though than it does the process.
Millions of moronic Americans will be voting for major party candidates for President in November and thus compromising their personal integrity, got it.
 
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bamaEER

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Millions of moronic Americans will be voting for major party candidates for President in November and thus compromising their personal integrity, got it.
The selection process for how we got here is mind boggling. Aspiring dems simply sat this out because a year ago, Hillary looked unbeatable. So the candidate pool was weak to begin with. For the GOP, however, the pool was rich. The process to get Trump to the top is one of the most bizarre and painful political experiences I've ever witnessed. He is there simply because the party is filled with candidates who seem to be toxic to the GOP voters.
 

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Not sure what is funny about that.

You can not see what she has done and still cast a vote for her without compromising your integrity, assuming you even understand what she has done. I get that some of you are morons, so it's possible to vote for her with a clear conscience. Sadly, that actually says more about you though than it does the process.
Like i said this morning. Blinded by an agenda, doesn't see the big picture, can't self-analyze his own words. Does it over and over.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Like i said this morning. Blinded by an agenda, doesn't see the big picture, can't self-analyze his own words. Does it over and over.
The big picture is defined by the individual and what is important to them. Your mistake is in assuming your priorities should be everyone else's.

And as I said previously, you can justify your complicity anyway you want, it still doesn't make it right.
 

mneilmont

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The selection process for how we got here is mind boggling. Aspiring dems simply sat this out because a year ago, Hillary looked unbeatable. So the candidate pool was weak to begin with. For the GOP, however, the pool was rich. The process to get Trump to the top is one of the most bizarre and painful political experiences I've ever witnessed. He is there simply because the party is filled with candidates who seem to be toxic to the GOP voters.
You still do not understand that people have rebelled against what our political system has evolved into? Damn, you are slow. We are not a Dictator nor Democracy form. We are a Republic form of government by laws. Remember, the man said "if you can keep it". We have slid too far to rule by one or a few of the powerful.
 

mneilmont

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Your mistake is in assuming your priorities should be everyone else's.
It is amazing how well he can ignore that fact. I have been telling him for years that he does not get to set the parameters for discussion.

And then he has the audacity to suggest "blinded by an agenda". I like people who are confident in their skin, but this cat is absolutely boring in his belief in himself.
 

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The big picture is defined by the individual and what is important to them. Your mistake is in assuming your priorities should be everyone else's.

And as I said previously, you can justify your complicity anyway you want, it still doesn't make it right.
Not true. I share a lot of what you have said about Hillary but it is opinion and I recognize that fact. You can't recognize the difference between your opinion which you constantly spew and the judgments from your opinions and everything else that may differ is an absolute wrong. It isn't. Simple but again, you won't be willing to understand especially coming from me as you hate me almost as much as your hate Hillary and you react without thinking.
 

moe

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It would have been a slam dunk for Biden.
Biden is kicking himself in the @ss and I guarantee you that Mark Cuban wishes he had ran after seeing Trump's success. Cuban will run next time, his ego might rival Trump's.
 

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It would have been a slam dunk for Biden.

You may be right. Probably are. I imagine anybody decent that didn't proudly call themselves a "socialist" (even though that's not what he is, whether people believe it or not we live in a democratic socialist country) would have had a pretty good shot.

Other than not being Hillary and not being a democratic socialist, what would Biden bring to the table? Or do you think that alone would be enough? I kinda do.
 

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Not true. I share a lot of what you have said about Hillary but it is opinion and I recognize that fact. You can't recognize the difference between your opinion which you constantly spew and the judgments from your opinions and everything else that may differ is an absolute wrong. It isn't. Simple but again, you won't be willing to understand especially coming from me as you hate me almost as much as your hate Hillary and you react without thinking.
I don't hate you, quite the opposite actually. Despite your overinflated sense of judgement, I actually very much respect your approach the majority of the time. Just because I disagree politically with someone doesn't mean that I hate or even dislike an individual. I just disagree with them.

As to the other piece of your assessment, I'm not sure what opinion I'm adding in. She has actually done the things that IMO should cause basically anyone to oppose her. It's not supposition, these events have actually occurred. If you all are comfortable having someone piss on your head and tell you it's raining, fine by me, but don't pretend like I'm the moron for using an umbrella.
 

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You may be right. Probably are. I imagine anybody decent that didn't proudly call themselves a "socialist" (even though that's not what he is, whether people believe it or not we live in a democratic socialist country) would have had a pretty good shot.

Other than not being Hillary and not being a democratic socialist, what would Biden bring to the table? Or do you think that alone would be enough? I kinda do.
At this point, I think anyone that didn't proclaim to be a socialist would be smoking her in the election. With Trump and the GOP, the mouth breathers won. Not much else to say.
 

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You may be right. Probably are. I imagine anybody decent that didn't proudly call themselves a "socialist" (even though that's not what he is, whether people believe it or not we live in a democratic socialist country) would have had a pretty good shot.

Other than not being Hillary and not being a democratic socialist, what would Biden bring to the table? Or do you think that alone would be enough? I kinda do.
Many would consider Biden a classic Washington insider but I think most would say he does not have any baggage and would not be looked at as extreme.
 

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Many would consider Biden a classic Washington insider but I think most would say he does not have any baggage and would not be looked at as extreme.
Doesn't have baggage? I guess if you compare him to the two leading candidates, then yea, I could see people saying he doesn't have baggage. The guy is a walking gaffe himself.
 

bornaneer

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Doesn't have baggage? I guess if you compare him to the two leading candidates, then yea, I could see people saying he doesn't have baggage. The guy is a walking gaffe himself.
I was comparing him to the two candidates. Most of his gaffes, and he sure has many, provided us with a few laughs. I am not afraid of Trump as you are. If he is elected he will surround himself with capable people whose job will be running the country. If the bit*h is elected she will surround herself with political hacks and money raisers.
 

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I was comparing him to the two candidates. Most of his gaffes, and he sure has many, provided us with a few laughs. I am not afraid of Trump as you are. If he is elected he will surround himself with capable people whose job will be running the country.
Seriously? When every credible name that has surfaced as having been approached as a possible running mate or cabinet member has backed away going "aw hell no" ? The only people Trump will be able to convince to join his administration will be sycophants as shallow and clueless as he is. I doubt he has any more honest brokers attached to his campaign than Hillary does to hers, and it's pretty obvious that she's surrounded by yes people. If he did they'd have convinced him to rein in his "speak first think never" approach to campaigning.
 

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Seriously? When every credible name that has surfaced as having been approached as a possible running mate or cabinet member has backed away going "aw hell no" ? The only people Trump will be able to convince to join his administration will be sycophants as shallow and clueless as he is. I doubt he has any more honest brokers attached to his campaign than Hillary does to hers, and it's pretty obvious that she's surrounded by yes people. If he did they'd have convinced him to rein in his "speak first think never" approach to campaigning.
When it is working, why would you dare change it up?
 

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I don't hate you, quite the opposite actually. Despite your overinflated sense of judgement, I actually very much respect your approach the majority of the time. Just because I disagree politically with someone doesn't mean that I hate or even dislike an individual. I just disagree with them.

As to the other piece of your assessment, I'm not sure what opinion I'm adding in. She has actually done the things that IMO should cause basically anyone to oppose her. It's not supposition, these events have actually occurred. If you all are comfortable having someone piss on your head and tell you it's raining, fine by me, but don't pretend like I'm the moron for using an umbrella.
If you don't understand that you are expressing your opinion on her situation and then making judgments on others if they disagree with your opinion, then what i have said about you is dead on correct. Sorry, truth hurts especially when it isn't flattering.

This is the third time in two weeks i have done this with you and you just can't understand. I will attempt to lay off of you on this personality fault.