Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
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Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
So I can remember to laugh at him every time he posts.
So I can remember to laugh at him every time he posts.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Der Hunter,<div>
</div><div>I understand your point, and that was the best one you have made here today. However, there is absolutely no way to measure the effectiveness of more coverage. IMO, more coverage is the same as marketing. How do measure the financial gain of a marketing campaign? The SEC has done a lot right, but why create an SEC Network? to make more money. I am not calling for all practices to be open. I am just simply calling for a consistent SEC policy that allows the media to do their jobs, and then making the point that when the media is allowed to their jobs the conference benefits from more exposure and marketing, and us the fans benefit from more knowledge and content.</div><div>
</div><div>Whats the downside? It can only help. To what extent, I have no idea, but help nonetheless.</div>
Der Hunter,<div>
</div><div>I understand your point, and that was the best one you have made here today. However, there is absolutely no way to measure the effectiveness of more coverage. IMO, more coverage is the same as marketing. How do measure the financial gain of a marketing campaign? The SEC has done a lot right, but why create an SEC Network? to make more money. I am not calling for all practices to be open. I am just simply calling for a consistent SEC policy that allows the media to do their jobs, and then making the point that when the media is allowed to their jobs the conference benefits from more exposure and marketing, and us the fans benefit from more knowledge and content.</div><div>
</div><div>Whats the downside? It can only help. To what extent, I have no idea, but help nonetheless.</div>
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Let all the CUSA teams fully open their practices and see how quickly the become the richest conference in the nation. UM had a freakin documentary of their entire season that you can watch... but nobody cares because they sucked. It's all about the Ws.
Do you not get enough information on our team already? What possibly could come out of a more open Q&A session or open practices that we don't already know? No one is going to know if Whitley or Smith will start until 9/1. No one is going to know when to expect Johnson back. Russell's going to look like a leader in total command of the offense, we'll have a three man battle for the OT positions, we'll have about a 5 man battle for the other DT spot, Slay and Banks are going to make INTs, Cam is the QB of the defense, McKinney and Bohanna are battling it out, Morrowis like a foot taller than every other WR we have, we only have two QBs on scholarship but also a couple of walkons, Banks is going to line up at WR in practice--- I mean what do you really expect to find out?
Things were more open last year but no one knew about Cox being out of the Memphis game till he was spotted in Starkville after the team had left.
Let all the CUSA teams fully open their practices and see how quickly the become the richest conference in the nation. UM had a freakin documentary of their entire season that you can watch... but nobody cares because they sucked. It's all about the Ws.
Do you not get enough information on our team already? What possibly could come out of a more open Q&A session or open practices that we don't already know? No one is going to know if Whitley or Smith will start until 9/1. No one is going to know when to expect Johnson back. Russell's going to look like a leader in total command of the offense, we'll have a three man battle for the OT positions, we'll have about a 5 man battle for the other DT spot, Slay and Banks are going to make INTs, Cam is the QB of the defense, McKinney and Bohanna are battling it out, Morrowis like a foot taller than every other WR we have, we only have two QBs on scholarship but also a couple of walkons, Banks is going to line up at WR in practice--- I mean what do you really expect to find out?
Things were more open last year but no one knew about Cox being out of the Memphis game till he was spotted in Starkville after the team had left.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
So all you guys are saying that the NFL is stupid for having a consistent league wide policy on the media?
So all you guys are saying that the NFL is stupid for having a consistent league wide policy on the media?
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
learned from a practice report other than coach speak and mumble mumble? "Yeah ole Bob is working hard out there trying to get better and Jim has come a long way from last year......." I like the Sunday paper game summaries but as far as reading pre season or even mid week coverage its a bunch of fluff. I'm as anxious as everybody else for the actual season to start but am about ready to pull my hair out if I hear or read 1 more article about how its Tyler Russel's team now, that Cam Lawrence was the leading tackler in the SEC last year, that Johnthan Banks passed up the draft last year for his sr season, etc etc.
learned from a practice report other than coach speak and mumble mumble? "Yeah ole Bob is working hard out there trying to get better and Jim has come a long way from last year......." I like the Sunday paper game summaries but as far as reading pre season or even mid week coverage its a bunch of fluff. I'm as anxious as everybody else for the actual season to start but am about ready to pull my hair out if I hear or read 1 more article about how its Tyler Russel's team now, that Cam Lawrence was the leading tackler in the SEC last year, that Johnthan Banks passed up the draft last year for his sr season, etc etc.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
1. "What's the downside?"
Our coach wants to be able to run his program in a way that does not always include a member of the media present and asking him or his players questions. Who knows? He may see this as a way to keep our guys focused.Under Mullen wehaven't lost a game that we are supposed to win (ala La Tech or Maine), so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.The guys show up prepared and focused.I don't believe this policy is the be all and end allof our success as a program (i.e., I don't see it as a correlation of +1 with our success either), but it appears to be a part of the culture that Mullen is building at MSU.
2. "It can only help. To what extent, I have no idea, but help nonetheless."
When considering what I said above about #1 and what you state in #2, I just don't think you are making a strong argument.
So, I'll agree to disagree.
1. "What's the downside?"
Our coach wants to be able to run his program in a way that does not always include a member of the media present and asking him or his players questions. Who knows? He may see this as a way to keep our guys focused.Under Mullen wehaven't lost a game that we are supposed to win (ala La Tech or Maine), so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.The guys show up prepared and focused.I don't believe this policy is the be all and end allof our success as a program (i.e., I don't see it as a correlation of +1 with our success either), but it appears to be a part of the culture that Mullen is building at MSU.
2. "It can only help. To what extent, I have no idea, but help nonetheless."
When considering what I said above about #1 and what you state in #2, I just don't think you are making a strong argument.
So, I'll agree to disagree.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Very good point Dawgebag, and I agree with you. I want to pull my hair out as well if I read one more article about this being Russell's team. However, maybe that is all there is to read because thats all the info the media can get on us. I would love to hear about the following:<div>
</div><div>1. More practice observations, who looks good and who doesn't</div><div>2. Which freshmen are really excelling at practice</div><div>3. Maybe an article about the what its like for a freshman in his first training camp in the SEC.</div><div>4. What are our injured players doing at practice.</div><div>5. Maybe more behind the scenes stuff. I would love to see more footage of how our coaches handle player meetings, staff meetings, the process of putting together a game plan, or putting together a recruiting board.</div><div>
</div><div>All these things would be really cool, but the media doesn't have near the access to do them.</div><div>
</div><div>I realize some of this stuff may go over the line of what is confidential and what is not. Those lines would need to be drawn, but if every SEC school was held to the same standard then either way there would be no advantage gained or lost.</div>
Very good point Dawgebag, and I agree with you. I want to pull my hair out as well if I read one more article about this being Russell's team. However, maybe that is all there is to read because thats all the info the media can get on us. I would love to hear about the following:<div>
</div><div>1. More practice observations, who looks good and who doesn't</div><div>2. Which freshmen are really excelling at practice</div><div>3. Maybe an article about the what its like for a freshman in his first training camp in the SEC.</div><div>4. What are our injured players doing at practice.</div><div>5. Maybe more behind the scenes stuff. I would love to see more footage of how our coaches handle player meetings, staff meetings, the process of putting together a game plan, or putting together a recruiting board.</div><div>
</div><div>All these things would be really cool, but the media doesn't have near the access to do them.</div><div>
</div><div>I realize some of this stuff may go over the line of what is confidential and what is not. Those lines would need to be drawn, but if every SEC school was held to the same standard then either way there would be no advantage gained or lost.</div>
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Der,<div>
</div><div>You say No, but I guarantee that if we had that kind of coverage, you would be the first person to read it.</div>
Der,<div>
</div><div>You say No, but I guarantee that if we had that kind of coverage, you would be the first person to read it.</div>
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
There's no indication at all, much less proof, that opening practices would turn $10 of reveune into $15. Or even $11. You're just assuming that and saying it as if it's a fact. It's not a fact. Of course the SEC doesn't generate as much revenue as the NFL does. It's the NATIONAL Football League and has 32 teams covering the whole country and in the biggest cities in the country. It also has no competition from any other league. The SEC is a regional conference with 12 (now 14) teams in mostly smaller, rural states and on a national scale faces competition from 4 other major conferences.
There's no indication at all, much less proof, that opening practices would turn $10 of reveune into $15. Or even $11. You're just assuming that and saying it as if it's a fact. It's not a fact. Of course the SEC doesn't generate as much revenue as the NFL does. It's the NATIONAL Football League and has 32 teams covering the whole country and in the biggest cities in the country. It also has no competition from any other league. The SEC is a regional conference with 12 (now 14) teams in mostly smaller, rural states and on a national scale faces competition from 4 other major conferences.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
because their teams don't play anyone outside of the NFL.
Not to mention the difference between beat writers in big cities that have major publications and what we get in Starkville.
because their teams don't play anyone outside of the NFL.
Not to mention the difference between beat writers in big cities that have major publications and what we get in Starkville.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Look through my posts and see how many I am specifically talking about the writings of our esteemed sports writers. Also, I don't have any paid MSUsports accounts like 247, scout, etc.
You have lost your damn mind if you think you know how much I would be reading that ****.
Look through my posts and see how many I am specifically talking about the writings of our esteemed sports writers. Also, I don't have any paid MSUsports accounts like 247, scout, etc.
You have lost your damn mind if you think you know how much I would be reading that ****.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
OK, I'm done. Looks like I'm talking to brick walls here today. I understand your points, but I was called some names on here today, and I am just curious as to what I said that was so ridiculous? After all, I didn't just make this up. The NFL, the most powerful and wealthiest league on the planet does this, and what is so stupid about thinking that similar polices could help for the SEC? Is the NFL wrong for doing what they do? If not, then whats the difference.
Again, I am not arguing my point any longer. Just simply asking why my point was so ridiculous and stupid.
OK, I'm done. Looks like I'm talking to brick walls here today. I understand your points, but I was called some names on here today, and I am just curious as to what I said that was so ridiculous? After all, I didn't just make this up. The NFL, the most powerful and wealthiest league on the planet does this, and what is so stupid about thinking that similar polices could help for the SEC? Is the NFL wrong for doing what they do? If not, then whats the difference.
Again, I am not arguing my point any longer. Just simply asking why my point was so ridiculous and stupid.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Then why are you arguing about something that you don't care about or involves you?
Then why are you arguing about something that you don't care about or involves you?
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Otherwise we may give other teams an advantage against our conference. And I don't want anymore NCAA involvement than we already have.
A couple of negatives:
1. You're giving media access to 18 year olds who may not be ready for that kind of attention. What if Locke said nick James looked out of shape & totally lost in practice. Quay wasn't giving 100%... How do you think it would make then feel to read that in the paper next week? Remember, these are not pros making millions $.
2. In regards to injury reports, how would it look on a senior hoping to be drafted that showed up as questionable on the injury report every week? Even if he never misses a game it implies that he's injury prone.
Otherwise we may give other teams an advantage against our conference. And I don't want anymore NCAA involvement than we already have.
A couple of negatives:
1. You're giving media access to 18 year olds who may not be ready for that kind of attention. What if Locke said nick James looked out of shape & totally lost in practice. Quay wasn't giving 100%... How do you think it would make then feel to read that in the paper next week? Remember, these are not pros making millions $.
2. In regards to injury reports, how would it look on a senior hoping to be drafted that showed up as questionable on the injury report every week? Even if he never misses a game it implies that he's injury prone.
Like the NFL, SEC needs to make blanket policies on open practices, injuries, and interviews
Great post Kired. Thank you for offering legitimate reasons as to why my point was wrong, and not just name calling for the hell of it with no basis in doing so. You make very good points. I am just trying to think of a way to keep what happened yesterday from happening again with both sides getting what they need to do their jobs.
Great post Kired. Thank you for offering legitimate reasons as to why my point was wrong, and not just name calling for the hell of it with no basis in doing so. You make very good points. I am just trying to think of a way to keep what happened yesterday from happening again with both sides getting what they need to do their jobs.
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