LOCKED - For the Ole Miss fans on here(Dillon Day)

[RebelBruiser]

Fr those of you so up in arms over Day, where were you when one of your players tries to take out one of our player's knee at the end of Nutt's last Egg Bowl. I don't seem to remember all of this outrage. I know this has been asked, but I have yet to see an answer from anyone.

As far as I'm concerned, whatever you're referring to never happened, because I quit on Nutt after the Vandy game in 2011. I got a lot more done that fall than normal, because I didn't waste my weekends with football. I didn't even watch the Egg Bowl you're referring to. As far as I'm concerned, that game never occurred.

That would explain my lack of outrage. I can't get mad about something I didn't see or care about at the time.

If it happened, and it was deliberate, then yes, it's worth being angry about.

I don't like dirty players, period. I hate Dan Skipper with a passion, the OL at Arkansas, because he's always playing after the whistle and trying to hurt people. There is no place in the game for that, and those types of players deserve bad things to happen to them, because they're constantly trying to purposely injure players after plays. If that's the way you play, then I will rejoice when someone takes you out eventually.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Yeah because they're

both the same****

 

[KurtRambis4]

You do see

the hypocrisy in your fanbase going apeshit over Day's actions (who is a member of a team you all don't care about and are not obsessed with****), but then ignoring events of the past few years that were committed by players on OM's team, right?

 

[aspendawg]

That's a terrible comparison. Marshall is just a talented douche bag. Day has what announcers and coaches refer to as the "killer instinct". You've got to have a little mean streak in you and he does. I'll take it all day everyday.

 

[RebelBruiser]

you really expecting to admit their blatant hypocrisy?

You first.

It's what fans do. It's just funny to watch anyone call anyone else a hypocrite when the roles are reversed. It's no different than those that claim cheating whenever they lose a recruit, but claim players really just love the university whenever they get a commit. It's hypocrisy at its finest, and it's one of the cornerstones of being a good fan. You have to have your full degree in hypocrisy.

As for the Sowell thing, like I said, I never saw the play being discussed, so I can't comment on it. If you've got a video link, I'll jump on it, but until then, I never saw it. I was checked out by that point in the Nutt era. I don't doubt that he did something dirty, but I wasn't paying attention.

As an aside, at that point in his career, few Ole Miss fans had positive feelings for Sowell anyway, so I doubt we'd rush to his defense, though I'm sure some of the ones that still hung around to watch the end of the Nutt era may have tried to defend whatever he did. If I'm remembering right, that would've been his final game in college though, so I would've been pretty indifferent toward him, since he'd no longer have impact on future Saturdays of mine.

 

[RebelBruiser]

the hypocrisy in your fanbase going apeshit over Day's actions (who is a member of a team you all don't care about and are not obsessed with****), but then ignoring events of the past few years that were committed by players on OM's team, right?

As long as you see the hypocrisy in yours defending Day while taking shots at every slight mis-step of an Ole Miss player, calling them thugs.

Glass houses and all, right? It's what fans do.

For the best example, ask FSU fans about what they think of Jameis Winston and his off-field stuff. Or ask an A&M fan what they thought of Manziel's off-field stuff. Fans defend their own...often when they're blatantly in the wrong.

 

[RebelBruiser]

That's a terrible comparison. Marshall is just a talented douche bag. Day has what announcers and coaches refer to as the "killer instinct". You've got to have a little mean streak in you and he does. I'll take it all day everyday.

So Sowell can't claim just a "mean streak" in this incident being discussed? I do agree with Rambis about hypocrisy of fans. It's the nature of being a fan.

Very few fans can see incidents objectively. You record the same incident and put two different uniforms on the player, and most fans will struggle to see the incidents as the same or even similar.

It's the rare fan that can actually call out his own players when they're screwing up.

On the Denzel stuff, he has been an idiot quite a bit. Same with Marshall Henderson. It doesn't mean I won't cheer for them, but they each had their own mis-steps, and they deserved punishment for those actions. I would've hated Marshall Henderson if he wasn't on my team. I can readily admit that, but he's fun when he's on your team.

 

[maroonmadman]

It was all Mullen's fault. Just prior to taking the field he said "Let's stomp these guys!" and Dillon just took that comment literally. Dan needs to be more careful about what he say.**

 

[KurtRambis4]

You and the other SPS bear quality controlers are

missing the point. When that **** happens, State fans aren't running over to nafoom posting nonstop about it. I'm pretty sure when Sowell did that, there were posts on here about it, but there was most certainly not the level of 17ing outrage y'all have shown. Y'all have a 17ing poll on how long Day should be suspended for. Obsessed doesn't even begin to describe it. I'm sure you'll deny all of this, or try to turn it around, but it can't be.

I'd hate to see what in hell would happen if a player from your real rival did something like this****

 

[KurtRambis4]

See my other post

on you missing my point. I understand fanbases are hypocritical. No ****, Sherlock. However, it's your fanbases' blatant disregard for this in this thread that is astounding.

The same 17ers that were raising all kinds of hell about Day don't even have the decency to recongize their lunacy when Sowell is brought up. Then you respond with "oh that was late in the year and I had really quit watching blah." Well you know what? I was taking a piss break during Day's transgressions, so I didn't see it and don't care.

 

[coach66]

Bruiser I think Sowell tried to take out a knee from behind on the last play of

game you were not going to win and he was away from the ball. I think that is a little different than the Day situation to be fair.

 

[dawgstudent]

Or Marshall Henderson

 

[drt7891]

So basically all is forgiven because you didn't watch the game? Are you shitting me?

 

[MaronMatters]

Oh well if it was just to humiliate that makes it okay. I guess I overlooked that. Makes total sense.

That was no different than CJ Johnson sacking TR in the '12 Egg Bowl then getting all in his grill while he was still on his back.

 

[dawgstudent]

That was a celebration of the season.

 

[johnson86-1]

Not saying it is good because Day's lack of discretion definitely caused us a little bit of a black eye in our great game. And, he will be lucky if the SEC office does not suspend him for 1/2 of the aTm game.

But, you people that are crying foul on this really need to get a life. This happens on virtually every play. What hurt Day was the fact that the first time he did it, it was WAY too in the open and obvious. The 2nd time would have never even be called out if not for the first one. The 2nd one was a lot closer to being excusable. But, the stuff that goes on in the OL/DL is beyond foul and offensive. Punches, scratches, twisting legs, arms, untying shoes, landing on another player, stepping on another player, poking in the eye, grabbing balls, pulling hair. IT ALL HAPPENS IN EVERY PILE THERE IS. Again, I am not justifying it all. I am saying that Day needs to get his in check because he will be a focal point of it for the rest of the season.

The second one looked like a complete non-issue to me. The first one looked questionable, but there's simply no way the SEC could suspend him because of it. If it was intentional, he needs to cut that **** out, both because there's no excuse for it and because it will hurt the team if he gets suspended. But no way the SEC is going to interject itself other than maybe tell Mullen to let Day know they're watching closely. Of course if we were playing Bama next he likely would be suspended.

 

[AHSDawg]

I agree, but remember who we are. For the 2nd one to be 100% on purpose, Day has to be one of the most agile people I have ever seen. He was definitely probably going to step on the guy, but no way he, on purpose, nailed a rolling player directly in the balls. However, I am telling you that he was too obvious and there is definitely a chance that the SEC would interject itself into these matters. They did it to Day last year. They do it all of the time. The UGA player got suspended for doing what he did to Fletcher Cox in 2010 (but I am pretty sure Richt did that on his own because he saw it happen first hand. He pulled the guy from the game immediately and was giving him a lecture on the sideline). But, again, make no mistake about it, you are kidding yourself if you do not believe this is well within the SEC office reach.

 

[RebelBruiser]

game you were not going to win and he was away from the ball. I think that is a little different than the Day situation to be fair.

Like I said, I didn't see it, but if that's what he did, then yes he deserves to be run down for it.

I don't like seeing players intentionally try to hurt others, especially outside of the construct of the play. That's cheap.

On Day, he could've avoided both, and I think his history on this subject speaks to the fact that his actions were likely intentional.

I'll put it this way. Have you ever been in your front yard playing sports with your kids and ended up in the air about to land on one of your kids? If so, and you want to avoid hurting them, there are ways to make sure you don't come down with the force of your entire weight on a person that's in a defenseless position to avoid hurting them, and you can certainly avoid landing with your feet on a player.

I'm all with Rambis on this. Don't be a hypocrite. If you'd call out someone else's players, call out your own. If someone will show me the Sowell video, I'll be happy to call him out.

In fact, to show that I'm not being a hypocrite, I'll call out one of my own. Trae Elston is a dirty MFer, or at least he has been in the past. I haven't seen as much from him recently, but certainly during his freshman year, he took a lot of liberties in getting as much contact and often some after the whistle stuff. I honestly think he tore Marlon Brown's ACL with an after the play leg twist in the Georgia game. That type of stuff is unacceptable. I haven't seen a lot of it recently, like I said, so maybe the coaches got him to clean it up some, but he definitely is one of those that plays "with a mean streak" if he's on your team but is a "dirty POS" if he's not on your team.

 

[aspendawg]

I never mentioned Sowell. I just said that Henderson was a terrible comparison. Henderson is a wimp. I'll take a Romanowski type player any day.. That's simply where I stand on this subject. As long as said player doesn't cause problems off the field I don't give a damn how aggressive he is on the field.

 

[GhostOfJackie]

I recommend lubing that back end up for the *** pounding that will be administered when Alabama comes to town. Then re-lubing up when you go get pounded at Arkansas because you have no run defense. And then lubing up again when you finish off your "magical" season with yet another pounding administered by Preston Smith and company. You guys better be ready for a pissed off LSU team as well. Your fans might need another bottle in Baton Rouge.

 

[BigLeagueChew]

I'll respond, but I honestly do not recall any such incident. Not saying that it didn't occur. Assuming it did occur in the 2011 Egg Bowl, what could have resulted? It was the last game of the year, Nutt had already been fired, and Sowell was done with his career. There's no games left to suspend him, and he probably left school to train for the pros.

I despised Sowell, so I probably would've said something about that summing up his entire career at Ole Miss (again, had I been aware). The difference is (if you can see) is that Day has been suspended previously for this type of act and goes on to do it twice in the same game.

No Ole Miss fan was "up in arms" last year when he first did it because it was a first occasion. Now that it's a repeat situation, it gets more attention.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

You first.

the hell you mean you first?

it is YOUR fans that are barking about it. Which we still can't get an explanation of UM's fans outrage since 1) you don't care about MSU and 2) your real rival is LSU.

Umm so YOU first. You want to take this high and mighty stance? Get started with the Kimdeechies. It's not MSU fans that started yanking your chains... It is YOUR fans. Don't get started about any Hyprocrisy over here. It is YOUR fans that started it. You. Three fingers back at YOU.

So you wanna dictate our players suspensions and so forth ?Get started on YOURS first. Or STFU. It's that simple. No red herrings.. No spin... YOUR fans are outraged... Get outraged in home first.

 

[ket7450]

So you ridicule every BearShark Walrus that ever posts on here to the point where there are very few that do anymore and now you're wondering where they're all at? Makes perfect sense. //Dayshift getting back to work. Grinding for that dollar!1!

 

[hatfieldms]

Let's make it one less

....

 

[ket7450]

Sad. You want me banned because I pointed out your backwards logic.

Congrats on winning your game Saturday. Seriously. You have a hell of a team. I could give a **** about your center. It's football. **** happens. You won in Death Valley at night. That's a big accomplishment for any team in the nation. Enjoy the win.

 

[Seinfeld]

Well... if you never the saw the Sowell play, then we can talk about something a little more current. Which one of our two teams is the only one among the two that has had a player ejected for targeting this year?

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[hatfieldms]

I'm not talking about you getting banned for calling out backwards logic

I'm saying it because you are an annoying Jack ***

 

[KurtRambis4]

If that's what you believe****

*

 

[ket7450]

Again sad. Only a poster of your caliber can call someone a jackass after they congratulate you for a win while also showing you that your logic might be a little fuzzy.

But whatever, man. Again, congrats on the win. You've got a good team.

 

[hatfieldms]

Call it what you want

You didn't come here to only congratulate us. Give me a break with that nonsense. And I don't mean annoying only from this thread. You are just an annoying poster in general

 

[RebelBruiser]

Well... if you never the saw the Sowell play, then we can talk about something a little more current. Which one of our two teams is the only one among the two that has had a player ejected for targeting this year?

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Personally, I'd like to see targeting be changed to 3 way rule, while you bring up that subject. Throw the flag like you do today. Then, you review it.

If the video deems it's a flagrant attempt at someone's head (think of the Washington State one from last year or the year before that was disgusting), then that guy gets the boot (and you get the 15 yard penalty). If it's inadvertent, just the 15 yard penalty, no ejection. If the review reveals no helmet contact, then you pick up the flag.

These guys move way too fast, and they change elevation and position so fast that there is going to be inadvertent contact to a player's head on occasion. You still need to have the penalty to try to encourage players to do everything they can to avoid even inadvertent contact with the head, but you don't need to eject a player unless it's a flagrant shot to the head. It can be hard to judge intent from a video, but I think there needs to be difference in the flagrant hits and the ones that may be more inadvertent.

That said, those type of plays and ejections happen every week. They're going to happen even if you try to prevent it, because the speed of the game makes it happen quite a bit.

Guys aren't clearly stepping on players trying to hurt them every week. I'll be curious to see what the SEC office does with Day. I think there is a good chance he sits the A&M game, and I hope he does. And if you're asking why I care, it's because we play you at the end of the year, and I don't want him thinking he has liberty to take late shots like that on our players considering that's a game that could have more on the line than the typical Egg Bowl.

 

[ket7450]

Ok. Obviously, you're mad at the world for some reason. Sorry, I annoy you. I'm not sure what you want. You ask for day shift to chime in and I did. Now you want me banned for chiming in. Or for being "annoying."

Maybe you should just concentrate on being happy because of your win. I know I would.

 

[hatfieldms]

Oh I'm happy about the win

Doesn't make you any less annoying.


And if I wanted you banned I would just do it

 

[hatfieldms]

And I asked for OM fans' opinion on what Sowell did

Since they were so up in arms about Day. You have yet to do that. All you have done is remind us why OM fans don't come here anymore. Like that is a bad thing

 

[KurtRambis4]

Well you've got to remember

You have yet to do that.

he's obviously so distraught over the Sowell incident, and he is repressing the memory of it.****

 

[ket7450]

Gotcha. It's your world, Hatfield. Do what you have to do.

I'm sorry that you don't think I'm serious about your team. I do think you have a good team and that was a great win Saturday night. It's actually pretty exciting that the Egg Bowl might mean something this year. Tip of the hat, Hatfield. Obviously, my very existence makes you mad so I will stop chiming in even though that's exactly what you asked for.

 

[xxxWalkTheDawg]

And if you're asking why I care, it's because we play you at the end of the year, and I don't want him thinking he has liberty to take late shots like that on our players considering that's a game that could have more on the line than the typical Egg Bowl.

Im seriously laughing at you being such a moron. Have you had a word with your GA yet about grabbing MSU players during the game since you are so worried about player safety? Speak with your secondary about targeting!!

If you dipshits would just come out and tell us the real reason your Vaginas are so sandy after a weekend UM didn't take the field we could work it out. Don't mask it with fake outrage... Tell us what it really is.

 

[hatfieldms]

Once again you never responded to what I asked for

Go back and read the first post and then read your posts

 

[ket7450]

Ok. You want me to address why an offensive lineman tried to take out one of your players knees from 3 years ago and was I "outraged?" I'll take your word on it because I had stopped watching by that point. I'm not surprised he did because I personally thought the guy was a piece of ****. But yeah, if he did that then he's a terrible human being. I don't care who somebody plays for if they try and injure someone then they shouldn't be playing anymore.

Hopefully, that will make your hate of all things related to BearSharks burn a little less bright.

Has day shift provided an adequate answer? If not, try tonight when the last BearShark on nightshift reports for duty.

 

[hatfieldms]

I don't hate all Rebels

Or bear sharks or whatever you call them. In. Fact there are some good Ole Miss posters on this board. You just aren't one of them.