Just as long as Cochran, McDaniels, or Childers fall in behind MY Senator, the Next President of the United States:
I dont want to believe in stereotypes, but sadly, they are real.
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I dont want to believe in stereotypes, but sadly, they are real.
I don't understand this
I thought that senators were always appointed when there was an open spot as long as the state legislature allowed the state executive to do so.
I thought that senators were always appointed when there was an open spot as long as the state legislature allowed the state executive to do so.
McDaniel speaks about the incident...........
“Dissent is a good thing in this country but you don’t do it in that manner,” said Mr. McDaniel. He found a way to turn the confrontation into a dig at Mr. Cochran, who has refused to meet his primary opponent in a debate and has been criticized by Mr. McDaniel for not talking more about issues.
Mr. McDaniel said of Mr. Davis, “He said more about his positions than Thad Cochran has said in his entire campaign.”
“Dissent is a good thing in this country but you don’t do it in that manner,” said Mr. McDaniel. He found a way to turn the confrontation into a dig at Mr. Cochran, who has refused to meet his primary opponent in a debate and has been criticized by Mr. McDaniel for not talking more about issues.
Mr. McDaniel said of Mr. Davis, “He said more about his positions than Thad Cochran has said in his entire campaign.”
How can people say the republican party has screwed up when the whole establishment is supporting Cochran.
What's strange is ten years ago McDaniel was a liberal trial lawyer democrat and then transposed himself as some kind of conservative.
I'm about as right-wing as you get and I'm supporting Cochran.
What's strange is ten years ago McDaniel was a liberal trial lawyer democrat and then transposed himself as some kind of conservative.
I'm about as right-wing as you get and I'm supporting Cochran.
Anyone seen any of this going on ? Gotta believe it's not on the up & up....from a friend of mine yesterday:
I had an interesting Conversation with the Governor's office today concerning the use of the TAXPAYER Funded State Email System by Haley Barbour and Thad Cochran for Campaign purposes. The Email System is supposed to be used for nothing other than state business yet Campaign Literature is being sent routinely targeting Teachers. It is a little Convenient that the candidate and his surrogates whom Governor Phil Bryant has endorsed have unfettered access to the state system to push campaign material and mobilize. If you have a problem with this abuse of the system, Please call Gov Phil Byrant's office at 601 968-3878.
Do not let them transfer you to Delbert Hosemann's office because This is a statement of Bryant's Leadership. Is he corrupt and willing to look the other way while Haley Barbour and Thad Cochran continue to game the system or is he going to take a stand. A report recently came out stating our State Gov is the Most Corrupt in the Nation. Will Bryant demonstrate he is not another Barbour or will he continue the business as usual.
I had an interesting Conversation with the Governor's office today concerning the use of the TAXPAYER Funded State Email System by Haley Barbour and Thad Cochran for Campaign purposes. The Email System is supposed to be used for nothing other than state business yet Campaign Literature is being sent routinely targeting Teachers. It is a little Convenient that the candidate and his surrogates whom Governor Phil Bryant has endorsed have unfettered access to the state system to push campaign material and mobilize. If you have a problem with this abuse of the system, Please call Gov Phil Byrant's office at 601 968-3878.
Do not let them transfer you to Delbert Hosemann's office because This is a statement of Bryant's Leadership. Is he corrupt and willing to look the other way while Haley Barbour and Thad Cochran continue to game the system or is he going to take a stand. A report recently came out stating our State Gov is the Most Corrupt in the Nation. Will Bryant demonstrate he is not another Barbour or will he continue the business as usual.
Because the Republican Party could have easily put up a candidate to replace a retiring Cochran who would have crushed McDaniel in this election. They screwed up by hanging on to Cochran too long and getting greedy for that appropriations committee chair. They may wind up with a Democrat in the Senate, or even worse for a lot of the Republican establishment, they may wind up with McDaniel in the Senate.
Each university has done an internal evaluation of job losses if McDaniel is elected... MSU expects to lose about 300.
Just passing along information that I probably shouldn't.
Just passing along information that I probably shouldn't.
Speaking of democrats and Thad...........
http://thehayride.com/2014/06/thad-...lown-out-next-week-and-he-richly-deserves-it/
http://thehayride.com/2014/06/thad-...lown-out-next-week-and-he-richly-deserves-it/
Bryant knows he will be facing republican opposition after his first term IF he doesn`t cooperate with Barbour. This probably falls somewhere between a quid pro quo and blackmail but it is what it is.
The Republican party has, for decades, used the "smaller government" talking point to convince white southerners to vote with them while, at the same time, using government money to fund their own projects in order to create a business friendly environment. They've been able to completely seal the deal by taking the moral majority high ground. To be clear, I'm not taking a position on whether that's a good or bad thing, I'm just pointing out the obvious.
Likewise, for decades, Republicans have taken for granted that they have an automatic base in the middle class white southerner. Whenever they needed a few more votes, they knew they could whip this group into a frenzy by putting on display some form of government waste or fraud. The problem is that this group kept getting whipped into a frenzy, but started asking why nothing was getting done.
Obama's election created a backlash against the mainstream republican party which was seen as ineffective and these same lower middle class southerners started to think that the Republican party wasn't doing enough to stop very government spending they had been told was so harmful. Instead of allowing one of the largest of these spenders to retire and allow a mainstream republican to take over, they thought they could convince these same middle class white southerners that not all spending was bad.
In short, the Republican party has always been pro-business, but has depended on an anti-government base that it created to get it elected. The very monster the Republican party created is rising and attempting to cut all spending, even the kind that creates the pro-business atmosphere. The Republican mistake was not Thad Cochran, it was McDaniel. They created him.
The question is whether the Republican party is actually changing and whether the pro-business faction can co-exist with the anti-government faction.
Likewise, for decades, Republicans have taken for granted that they have an automatic base in the middle class white southerner. Whenever they needed a few more votes, they knew they could whip this group into a frenzy by putting on display some form of government waste or fraud. The problem is that this group kept getting whipped into a frenzy, but started asking why nothing was getting done.
Obama's election created a backlash against the mainstream republican party which was seen as ineffective and these same lower middle class southerners started to think that the Republican party wasn't doing enough to stop very government spending they had been told was so harmful. Instead of allowing one of the largest of these spenders to retire and allow a mainstream republican to take over, they thought they could convince these same middle class white southerners that not all spending was bad.
In short, the Republican party has always been pro-business, but has depended on an anti-government base that it created to get it elected. The very monster the Republican party created is rising and attempting to cut all spending, even the kind that creates the pro-business atmosphere. The Republican mistake was not Thad Cochran, it was McDaniel. They created him.
The question is whether the Republican party is actually changing and whether the pro-business faction can co-exist with the anti-government faction.
It's a lie the McDaniel team has put out there that has pretty much gone unchallenged. "If you vote for Cochran, the governor is going to decide who your next senator will be and you won't have a vote." That's just not true, but nobody seems to be pointing out that it's not true.
Pat if Cochran gets elected and resigns in Jan 2016 would the appointee serve til the fall 2016 election rather than the 100 days.
Frankly I think a Childers victory would be the best thing for Mississippi. He'd lose re-election but the current imbalance in MS is what produces a wackjob like McDaniel. That guy is a snake and anyone who can't see it is a fool. We need legitimate Democratic opposition in MS and for Republicans to realize they're beatable if they cede too much ground to their lunatic fringe.
So if Keenum wants something that can be pushed by Bully Bloc - that's not passed down to Bully Bloc?
That's the way it reads to me. And that may be the plan. Or the plan may be to keep Thad in office as a figurehead as long as they can prop him up in his seat. I don't know.
I think what they should have done is Thad should have announced he was retiring at the end of this term last summer, let Harper (or whoever the designated heir is) start running his campaign, then Thad retire early in January of this year and Harper is appointed to fill the remainder of the current term.
I think what they should have done is Thad should have announced he was retiring at the end of this term last summer, let Harper (or whoever the designated heir is) start running his campaign, then Thad retire early in January of this year and Harper is appointed to fill the remainder of the current term.
I would make that call myself after a couple of Childers-MDaniel debates. I honestly have never listened to either of them closely.
Oh let's be honest, the lower middle class white southerner could put up with government spending until a black man was elected. Then for some reason they got super motivated...
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Sorry, haven't read in a while.
1) Anyone who says that Bryant would be in cahoots with Barbour on anything, doesn't know much about Mississippi politics. The two hate each other, as do Phil and Tate. This is just another conspiracy theory being rolled out by the McDaniel camp.
2) I've seen the numbers and MSU is looking at possibly losing 700 jobs and $50,000,000 a year in research dollars if McDaniel wins.
3) Stark, Airbus, Aurora, IIVI, Camgian, the training facility that EMCC has to build to support Yokohama phase 2, etc... are all directly dependent on Cochran's Appropriations position. Without him, we will lose many of these to other states. Given Nunnelee's current medical situation (our state's other appropriator) we are in for a world of hurt. Mississippi could weather the storm of losing Thad, but not for a Tea Party loon. For instance, If a Gregg Harper or someone like that were elected, they'd likely get a seat on Senate Appropriations and we could stave off some of the losses. McDaniel's committee assignments would be Aging and Indian affairs or something worthless like that. That is a cold hard fact.
4) Cochran is not near as out of it as some of you are making him out to be. Yes, he is 76 but the outside tea party groups have greatly overplayed any mental degradation. Even if you want to stick with that talking point, it takes nothing away from what his position can do for Mississippi. He has a staff of nearly 20 people that all work on different issues in his office. Staff does all of the work in Senate offices any way, so acting like Cochran would be less effective even if he didn't know his name is ridiculous. Towards the end of his life, Robert Byrd literally didn't know where he was and was far and away the most powerful member of the Senate and continued steering billions of dollars to West Virginia.
5) I can't even fathom what some of you expect that McDaniel would accomplish? Ted Cruz has accomplished absolutely nothing in the Senate, and McDaniel's entire platform is to "stand with Cruz"
6) Our state is about to look like crap in the national media if McDaniel wins. Google "Chris McDaniel racist" and you'll get a glimpse of what is coming. Think that doesn't matter? Do you think the next Yokohama even looks at Mississippi when that is the current news on our state?
In closing, "standing with Ted Cruz" is not a policy platform. It is simply a talking point to go along with other buzzwords to attract uneducated voters into your pyramid scheme politics. The fact is, Mississippi has a lot to lose on Tuesday, and some of those who stand to lose the most (their jobs, home values, etc..) are the very ones who can't see the forest for the trees.
Sorry, haven't read in a while.
1) Anyone who says that Bryant would be in cahoots with Barbour on anything, doesn't know much about Mississippi politics. The two hate each other, as do Phil and Tate. This is just another conspiracy theory being rolled out by the McDaniel camp.
2) I've seen the numbers and MSU is looking at possibly losing 700 jobs and $50,000,000 a year in research dollars if McDaniel wins.
3) Stark, Airbus, Aurora, IIVI, Camgian, the training facility that EMCC has to build to support Yokohama phase 2, etc... are all directly dependent on Cochran's Appropriations position. Without him, we will lose many of these to other states. Given Nunnelee's current medical situation (our state's other appropriator) we are in for a world of hurt. Mississippi could weather the storm of losing Thad, but not for a Tea Party loon. For instance, If a Gregg Harper or someone like that were elected, they'd likely get a seat on Senate Appropriations and we could stave off some of the losses. McDaniel's committee assignments would be Aging and Indian affairs or something worthless like that. That is a cold hard fact.
4) Cochran is not near as out of it as some of you are making him out to be. Yes, he is 76 but the outside tea party groups have greatly overplayed any mental degradation. Even if you want to stick with that talking point, it takes nothing away from what his position can do for Mississippi. He has a staff of nearly 20 people that all work on different issues in his office. Staff does all of the work in Senate offices any way, so acting like Cochran would be less effective even if he didn't know his name is ridiculous. Towards the end of his life, Robert Byrd literally didn't know where he was and was far and away the most powerful member of the Senate and continued steering billions of dollars to West Virginia.
5) I can't even fathom what some of you expect that McDaniel would accomplish? Ted Cruz has accomplished absolutely nothing in the Senate, and McDaniel's entire platform is to "stand with Cruz"
6) Our state is about to look like crap in the national media if McDaniel wins. Google "Chris McDaniel racist" and you'll get a glimpse of what is coming. Think that doesn't matter? Do you think the next Yokohama even looks at Mississippi when that is the current news on our state?
In closing, "standing with Ted Cruz" is not a policy platform. It is simply a talking point to go along with other buzzwords to attract uneducated voters into your pyramid scheme politics. The fact is, Mississippi has a lot to lose on Tuesday, and some of those who stand to lose the most (their jobs, home values, etc..) are the very ones who can't see the forest for the trees.
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So, basically MSU will have to just shut down and there will be no more jobs in MS if Thad is not elected.
You honestly can't believe half of what you just posted. No doubt Thad has done a great job and will continue to do so, if elected. But the sky won't fall if he does not win.
Reading through this thread, it doesnt seem like anyone is supporting mcdaniel.
So my question is...who are all these people voting for him?
So my question is...who are all these people voting for him?
The old man has a side piece?
I have been keeping up via this thread. I havent lived in MS in over a decade so I dont really have an opinion. Vote out a guy that has been there a million years and can help MS for a guy that wants to be there a million years and cant help Ms. That is the gist of what Ive gathered here.
And the obvious question. Why would ANY woman vote for a radical conservative? That doesnt make logical sense to me.
Childers is a really great guy. Got to know him when he was my rep. To be a politician he was actually very genuine.
Not really. His wife has severe dementia and hasn't recognized him in years. Yes, Thad has a girlfriend now, but he still checks on and visits his wife often, even though she can't speak or think anymore.
No reasonable person could say that Thad is having an affair.
********! There are these things called "vows" he told her on their wedding day that likely included: till death do us part; sickness and in health; etc. If he were wanting to be honorable, divorce and continue to take care of her.....and not rationalize the behavior with "oh she hasn't recognized me in years, it must be ok!"
Wouldnt divorcing her break those same vows?
Again, he said "reasonable" person. Clearly you arent or have never had a grandparent in the nursing home. The ones with Alzheimers have bfs and gfs in there , even if they are married still. Is that wrong? They dont even know wtf they are doing.
His wife's body is still "alive" thanks to advanced medical technology, but her mind, the person she once was, is gone and never coming back. Cochran is essentially a widower and he's had years to accept it and move on.
My wife and I have discussed this situation and we both agreed that if we're ever in Rose Cochran's situation, we'd want the other to move on with their life and be happy.
If you and your wife have reached a different understanding, that's fine, but I feel pretty confident that Thad and I are in the majority here.
Er...so you suggest that he be honorable by divorcing her? How is that any better when applied to your comment about 'till death do us part; sickness and in health; etc.'?????
Goodness, talk about absurd.
Do the honorable thing and divorce the woman who no longer recognizes you and requires around the clock care! Be a man!
Ha ha ha, what a joke.
We only live once. I cant ever imagine divorcing or even cheating on my wife. And if she was no longer 'her' due to death, decades long coma, or severe memory degradation- I cant imagine remarrying/dating someone else.
But you only live once.
Even though at this time I couldn't see myself doing that, I can hardly fault someone in his position for trying to live their life to the fullest while balancing love and responsibility.
Judging someone for not just giving up on having a fulfilling personal/intimate relationship is pretty brutal to do.
We only live once. No sense in missing out on that which you desire when you are in that position.
Here is the problem- McDaniel has promised to slash budgets and is a true believer in not taking federal pork. A vote for McDaniel hurts our school- education will be one of his first targets. As a soon to be grad student, this makes me terrified of tuition hikes.
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