LOCKED Starkville becomes first Mississippi city.........
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JT will likely claim that this will keep away businesses like that resolution that was passed last year. So far, there has been zero news on someone deciding not to open a business in Starkville because of the resolution.
It's about time.
2 questions I'll have for my alderman the next time I see him:
1. What benefits does the city offer heterosexual couples that aren't married?
2. What proof does a benefits eligible employee give that they are part of a homosexual couple and not just two people of the same sex wanting benefits?
1. What benefits does the city offer heterosexual couples that aren't married?
2. What proof does a benefits eligible employee give that they are part of a homosexual couple and not just two people of the same sex wanting benefits?
I don't care what Starkville does. Starkville is Starkville and it is separate from Miss State. Well maybe not the fire department. I am never going to live there. Heck when I go to games I don't even stop to eat, buy gas or snacks in Starkville on the way home. My only thoughts are getting the heck out of there to beat the traffic. I wait until I get to Louisville before I buy anything.
However I really don't think one year is long enough to judge if there is any effect. <O
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However I really don't think one year is long enough to judge if there is any effect. <O
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I don't care what Starkville does. Starkville is Starkville and it is separate from Miss State. Well maybe not the fire department. I am never going to live there. Heck when I go to games I don't even stop to eat, buy gas or snacks in Starkville on the way home. My only thoughts are getting the heck out of there to beat the traffic. I wait until I get to Louisville before I buy anything.
However I really don't think one year is long enough to judge if there is any effect. <o
You're not missed.
1. This is irrelevant because heterosexual couples have the right to get married in MS, same-sex couples do not.
2. This is what I am curious about as well. The only criteria I can imagine would be maybe the filing of tax returns by the same-sex couple from the same address over a certain length of time (obviously going along with declaration to the city that the employee is in a same-sex relationship with ____).
2. This is what I am curious about as well. The only criteria I can imagine would be maybe the filing of tax returns by the same-sex couple from the same address over a certain length of time (obviously going along with declaration to the city that the employee is in a same-sex relationship with ____).
I bet you are one of "those people" that...
that leaves the game early to "beat the traffic" and then proceeds to make your kids hold their bladders for 300 miles so you can limit stops and "make good time"...
that leaves the game early to "beat the traffic" and then proceeds to make your kids hold their bladders for 300 miles so you can limit stops and "make good time"...
I was more referencing the notion that Starkville and MSU are separate. I assure you, there is a great deal of interdependence between the two. The healthier Starkville is, the better for Mississippi State. The better off Mississippi State is, Starkville benefits. For either to act in a vacuum is unwise.
Starkville is not separate from MSU. It's a symbiotic relationship. Or it should be. So often it seems like it's one-way. Cities and universities/large companies who don't understand that are usually ****** or at least underachieving precisely because they won't acknowledge their interconnectedness and dependence on each other.
Nope. I have a son who wants to stay to the very end regardless of the out come and we do. Last Saturday we did not get off of campus until 11:45. I don't mind staying late but when we are ready to go I want to get out of the traffic. Also If he needs to stop a take a "P" I will stop. You are only assuming you know me.
It has nothing to do with politics or Starkville. I did my time there. When it's time to go it's time to go.
The Federal government recognizes same-sex couples IF they are legally married..
in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage or some type of same-sex civil union, regardless of where you live. That may be how this works...
in a state that recognizes same-sex marriage or some type of same-sex civil union, regardless of where you live. That may be how this works...
I am not trying to debate here. In fact I agree with you that both need each other. I am only taking Game Day. I get to Miss state several times a year for other functions. When I do I stay at the Hilton Garden off of HWY 25 and I eat at local resteraunts. In reality what I think about starkvilles politice really doesn't matter and is a mute point.
1. If two people can get a benefit without doing something (getting married) but two other people can't without doing that something, it's not equal. If two gay people decided to quit being a couple, one of them just moves out. If two unmarried straight people decide to quit being a couple, one just moves out. If two married people want to quit being a couple, lawyers get involved.
2. There are a lot of married couples (not the majority) who live at different addresses and file taxes separately (obviously they have to say married on their tax return).
The way around this is to require anyone receiving benefits to have gotten married (or civil unionized) in any state they can. If you're a gay couple in Starkville and want city benefits, then go to a state that will marry you and bring your license back.
2. There are a lot of married couples (not the majority) who live at different addresses and file taxes separately (obviously they have to say married on their tax return).
The way around this is to require anyone receiving benefits to have gotten married (or civil unionized) in any state they can. If you're a gay couple in Starkville and want city benefits, then go to a state that will marry you and bring your license back.
I would have zero problem if it didn't work that way. Comparing unmarried gay couples and unmarried straight couples in MISSISSIPPI is not apples to apples and few on this board are dumb enough to honestly believe it is. How far does a gay couple have to go to get married? Illinois? That's relevant.
What rights are these anyway that married couples are granted by Starkville? I dare say whatever edge a gay couple attempting to game the system might get in Starkville will pale in comparison to the mountain of disadvantages they face by being openly gay in one of the most intolerant states in the country.
What rights are these anyway that married couples are granted by Starkville? I dare say whatever edge a gay couple attempting to game the system might get in Starkville will pale in comparison to the mountain of disadvantages they face by being openly gay in one of the most intolerant states in the country.
If the legality (or illegality) of the act is the determining factor, then how does that apply to siblings, first cousins, etc?
Not trying to lock it up, just pointing out that determining qualification by whether you have the right to marry your would-be spouse leaves too many holes.
How do you define intolerant? I live in MS "one of the most intolerant states" and I can't call anybody by name who doesn't tolerate people expressing and living a gay lifestyle...
So you're saying Mississippi is tolerant, in general?
I think the "two non-gay men can marry and cheat on their taxes!" argument is overplayed. Heterosexuals have the same ability. Marrying for citizenship is EXTREMELY common. There will always be people who lie, cheat, and steal and take advantage of things, but I imagine it's a small percentage in comparison to people who do it for the right reasons.
It most likely refers to married gay couples who move to Starkville and are government employees. I know there is at least one married gay professor at State, and though this would not apply to him and his husband, there might be others in the city government in a similar position.
I don't think two dudes would do that for a tax break because of the social stigma that still comes with being gay in the south. Besides, a man and a woman can already do that, so why does it matter?
I don't think two dudes would do that for a tax break because of the social stigma that still comes with being gay in the south. Besides, a man and a woman can already do that, so why does it matter?
Then you are either a hermit or a fool. I'm not walking you through what intolerant means. Google it.
Well, I'll come out of my hermitage and try to undo my foolishness. Turns out we have to go to the root work tolerant:
showing willingness to allow the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
Are you suggesting that people in this poor, backwards state full of hermits and fools are wiping people who live a gay lifestyle out of existence? I promise, I have not seen that and I get out on most days...
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