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For football, I wouldn't care if State went to a modern MSU logo. I think State does need to adjust it's look for football to differentiate from aTm. We are too similar currently.

State needs to modernize the 1986 uniform. Adding helmet stripes and silver pants. Go with that.
It's like we just continue to repeat our mistakes. We did the SWAC thing during the Croom Error, and willingly doing it again for Heavy Lebby.
 

615dawg

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Truth. It is excellent for all media, print, embroidery -- it has a square aspect and can fit in all kinds of spaces. It was really a fine update to the ruffled M banner and solved a lot of pixellation issues. Even the weakened version maintained those advantages. &tate is just not good. It feels "good" to some people because it's new, but it is objectively weaker than this logo. Skinny lines, lots of curves and details -- it is asking for trouble in general usage.
It feels good to two types of fans.

The baseball fan who sees it through a nostalgic lens.

Women and homosexuals who like its feminine look and feel.
 

MSUDOG24

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Truth. It is excellent for all media, print, embroidery -- it has a square aspect and can fit in all kinds of spaces. It was really a fine update to the ruffled M banner and solved a lot of pixellation issues. Even the weakened version maintained those advantages. &tate is just not good. It feels "good" to some people because it's new, but it is objectively weaker than this logo. Skinny lines, lots of curves and details -- it is asking for trouble in general usage.
It's particularly noticeable on score bugs/summaries and any list and ranking type things with multiple schools. Might be my brain still looking for Mstate but I have completely missed us often. Squint hard enough and you can see it. As you note, bold and square just fits better in those applications.

I've always thought the way they stylized clunky "Mississippi State" and paired it with the square Mstate was well done for various applications depending on the space available. Seems we've moved on to &tate and I'll survive.
 
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patdog

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Zac Selmon has said publicly that MState is the logo of Mississippi State University and &Tate is a secondary logo. Period.

It seems obvious to me, that &Tate was pushed to the forefront to usher in a new era of football with the coaching change, which has happened often over the years but more importantly to sell merchandise.

Selmon also said publicly that skinny MSU was a once off.
If Selmon said that he was lying. &Tate is virtually the only logo we use.
 

HailStout

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You are just stupid and cannot comprehend the point of this discussion. No one has ever said the dominant logo must be on the helmet (or any uniform). It's probably still BEST.....but not truly necessary.


Or….hear me out….it was a joke on a sports message board.
 

TheBannerM

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If Selmon said that he was lying. &Tate is virtually the only logo we use.
Selmon is talking about the university itself, not the athletic department. The BannerM is the exclusive logo for all things not related to sports.

Mississippi State University website.

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Honestly, this debate is so fruitless. The administration likes the BannerM and Selmon like the Script State. People bitched about the BannerM for so long, and we finally got rid of it for sports and people are still bitching. Really the only debate we should be having logo-wise is whether we have a football-only logo, like other universities (cough*LSU*cough) or to stick with the athletic logo on helmets.
 
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ETK99

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For football, I wouldn't care if State went to a modern MSU logo. I think State does need to adjust it's look for football to differentiate from aTm. We are too similar currently.

State needs to modernize the 1986 uniform. Adding helmet stripes and silver pants. Go with that.
its a no from me dawg GIF
 

ETK99

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Zac Selmon has said publicly that MState is the logo of Mississippi State University and &Tate is a secondary logo. Period.

It seems obvious to me, that &Tate was pushed to the forefront to usher in a new era of football with the coaching change, which has happened often over the years but more importantly to sell merchandise.

Selmon also said publicly that skinny MSU was a once off.
False, he said the banner is the primary university logo and State is the primary athletics logo
 
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Yeti

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Give me the banner state over script state all day. The M could be Montana, Maryland, Maine or Missouri but at least you can say the M is for Mississippi….the script looks like a Dr. Pepper ad….
 
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Maroon13

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False, he said the banner is the primary university logo and State is the primary athletics logo
Nope. He definitely said MState is staying and &Tate is something being used now for athletics but was still a secondary logo for branding.
 

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We should phase out the banner M-State and replace it with the script State

Respectfully and totally disagree!! That script State thing is soooooooo lame and unimaginative!! I personally like the banner M-State logo, but recognize I'm now in the minority. That script State thing looks good ONLY on the front of an athletic jersey, i.e., baseball, softball, basketball, etc. I personally think it looks horrible on the football helmets. IF I was going to change anything, I'd change EVERYTHING to the M over S baseball logo.
 

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So the logo is gay. Just how gay is it and what is the gayness factor of just how gay the gay is?
Gay &tate is very gay. Btw I don’t care if you’re gay, and that you like gay &tate. I’m not saying throw the gay &tate away totally, I’m for keeping all the State gay fans happy that like the gay &state logo. Keep it on some merch for y’all and the female teams. And the baseball team maybe.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Gay &tate is very gay. Btw I don’t care if you’re gay, and that you like gay &tate. I’m not saying throw the gay &tate away totally, I’m for keeping all the State gay fans happy that like the gay &state logo. Keep it on some merch for y’all and the female teams. And the baseball team maybe.
Nothing screams “I’ve never been out of the MSU bubble” than people who are ok with &tate being anything more than a uniform or merch variant.
 
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The Cooterpoot

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Gay &tate is very gay. Btw I don’t care if you’re gay, and that you like gay &tate. I’m not saying throw the gay &tate away totally, I’m for keeping all the State gay fans happy that like the gay &state logo. Keep it on some merch for y’all and the female teams. And the baseball team maybe.
We get it, you're a ***** OM fan(nothing wrong with being *****)
 

615dawg

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I’m agreeing with Goat and bulldoghair on something. What the hell!

gay &tate should be baseball and softball uniforms only. It looks terrible on a football helmet, it looks terrible on the football field, it looks terrible on apparel, it looks terrible in TV graphics.
 

ronpolk

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I’m agreeing with Goat and bulldoghair on something. What the hell!

gay &tate should be baseball and softball uniforms only. It looks terrible on a football helmet, it looks terrible on the football field, it looks terrible on apparel, it looks terrible in TV graphics.
There is some irony in grown men being so concerned about a logo on a shirt that they call it gay.
 

bulldoghair

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There is some irony in grown men being so concerned about a logo on a shirt that they call it gay.
All clothing stores have a men’s section and a women’s section. Gay &tate belongs in the ladies department.
 

ronpolk

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Definitely some irony in a bunch of (apparently average) grown men who don’t get how the world works.
Yeah, the guys who’s been banned from a sports msg board double digit times clearly has the world figured out.

The truth is, it does not matter. The logo and branding serves to sell **** and make money. That’s it. That’s why nobody gives a **** when a logo gets changed from time to time.
 
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Yeah, the guys who’s been banned from a sports msg board double digit times clearly has the world figured out.

The truth is, it does not matter. The logo and branding serves to sell **** and make money. That’s it. That’s why nobody gives a **** when a logo gets changed from time to time.
Well you just triggered him. Best of luck in the replies.**
 
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OG Goat Holder

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Yeah, the guys who’s been banned from a sports msg board double digit times clearly has the world figured out.

The truth is, it does not matter. The logo and branding serves to sell **** and make money. That’s it. That’s why nobody gives a **** when a logo gets changed from time to time.
When you go to banned smack, you’ve lost. Good night.

DCD is trying very hard. I get it. But yall lose.