Looking to November: Clinton leads Trump by double-digits in new poll

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http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/05/04/rel6b.-.2016.general.pdf


Interviews with 1,001 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC


International on April 28 – May 1, 2016. The margin of sampling error for

results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

The sample also includes 890 interviews among registered voters (plus or

minus 3.5 percentage points).

This sample includes 601 interviews among landline respondents and 400

interviews among cell phone respondents.



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Keyser76

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They ignore reality at every turn. It was only the right that was surprised when Mitt lost. Their bubble keeps them thinking the rest of America is exactly like their own circle of like minded friends. Make America White Again! lol
 

DvlDog4WVU

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They ignore reality at every turn. It was only the right that was surprised when Mitt lost. Their bubble keeps them thinking the rest of America is exactly like their own circle of like minded friends. Make America White Again! lol
Always about race and victims with you candy asses
 

Airport

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They ignore reality at every turn. It was only the right that was surprised when Mitt lost. Their bubble keeps them thinking the rest of America is exactly like their own circle of like minded friends. Make America White Again! lol

Make America poor! Make America dependent on food stamps. Make America dependent on govt assistance
 

bornaneer

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That poll has Hillary by 13%. There hasn't been a margin that big since Reagan beat Mondale in 1984. It'll be interesting to see whether that holds up.

I think people will talk about this election for a long time to come now matter how it all unfolds. We're in the midst of big events.
Dukakis was up 17 on Bush after the conventions in 88.
 

moe

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Although I think the election is Clinton's to lose, polls are meaningless until the conventions are over.
Absolutely, just throwing that recent one out there. Hillary and Trump haven't really even begun to go at each other yet, there's much ugliness to come.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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Absolutely, just throwing that recent one out there. Hillary and Trump haven't really even begun to go at each other yet, there's much ugliness to come.
And we shouldn't underestimate Trump's ability to garner nearly 100% of the Stockholm Syndrome vote and no-self-respect vote.
 

WhiteTailEER

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Make America poor! Make America dependent on food stamps. Make America dependent on govt assistance

All of that has happened just in the last 8 years ... everything is booming when the GOP controls the white house and everything goes to **** when a Dem is in there. Does that about sum it up?

People don't recognize that the two parties are just different sides of the same coin. Be honest, are things REALLY that much different based on who is controlling things? If none of us ever followed politics at all, how many of us would say "wow, things have been really really different the last few years, wonder what's changed"?

There have always been poor people in America and there always will be, nobody we elect for POTUS is ever going to change that. There are always going to people dependent on government assistance ... something else that's never going to change. It doesn't get worse or better based on which party is in the white house.

With your experience and education you should understand that there are no easy answers for complex problems. We should all be wary of anybody that thinks there are.
 

rog1187

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All of that has happened just in the last 8 years ... everything is booming when the GOP controls the white house and everything goes to **** when a Dem is in there. Does that about sum it up?

People don't recognize that the two parties are just different sides of the same coin. Be honest, are things REALLY that much different based on who is controlling things? If none of us ever followed politics at all, how many of us would say "wow, things have been really really different the last few years, wonder what's changed"?

There have always been poor people in America and there always will be, nobody we elect for POTUS is ever going to change that. There are always going to people dependent on government assistance ... something else that's never going to change. It doesn't get worse or better based on which party is in the white house.

With your experience and education you should understand that there are no easy answers for complex problems. We should all be wary of anybody that thinks there are.
That's been my question/thought - there are a lot of people and it seems like more than ever - that want to see change...Hillary isn't going to change much and Trump can't follow through on his promises - so then what happens?
 

Airport

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All of that has happened just in the last 8 years ... everything is booming when the GOP controls the white house and everything goes to **** when a Dem is in there. Does that about sum it up?

People don't recognize that the two parties are just different sides of the same coin. Be honest, are things REALLY that much different based on who is controlling things? If none of us ever followed politics at all, how many of us would say "wow, things have been really really different the last few years, wonder what's changed"?

There have always been poor people in America and there always will be, nobody we elect for POTUS is ever going to change that. There are always going to people dependent on government assistance ... something else that's never going to change. It doesn't get worse or better based on which party is in the white house.

With your experience and education you should understand that there are no easy answers for complex problems. We should all be wary of anybody that thinks there are.

It was tongue in cheek in response to the article. Is there a difference between the parties? Yes, there is. One party believes that govt is the answer, the other doesn't. The problem is, we have probably gone down the road too far to stop our decline. By decline, I mean our own responsibility to fix things ourselves and not look to somebody else to solve them for us. The American people keep wanting more free stuff and sooner or later, we are going to run out of money. Your premise that there are always going to be poor people is correct and no amount of govt assistance will change that. However, there was 23 mill people on average on food stamps before Obama, now there 45 million. There's no reason for it other than trying to get more people to accept it and not want to think they shold work for it.
 

Airport

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That's been my question/thought - there are a lot of people and it seems like more than ever - that want to see change...Hillary isn't going to change much and Trump can't follow through on his promises - so then what happens?

Hiliary has said she will continue Obama's policies. That certainly not going to change anything. If you look at her thesis at wellsly, she said Saul Olynsky didn't go far enough. Obama worship at the Olynsky altar.
 

Airport

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Absolutely, just throwing that recent one out there. Hillary and Trump haven't really even begun to go at each other yet, there's much ugliness to come.
It always tightens at the end. I think that to underestimate trump is a mistake. He's been more than impressive.
 

bamaEER

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Although I think the election is Clinton's to lose, polls are meaningless until the conventions are over.
I agree and there's a long time between now and November. Having said that, Hillary's lead over Trump has been significant and unwavering since the onset.
Polling Data
CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13
Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/28 1000 LV 3.0 39 41 Trump +2
IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 47 40 Clinton +7
Rasmussen Reports 4/25 - 4/26 1000 LV 3.0 38 38 Tie
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 50 39 Clinton +11
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 46 43 Clinton +3
FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 48 41 Clinton +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 4/10 - 4/14 1000 RV 3.1 50 39 Clinton +11
CBS News 4/8 - 4/12 1098 RV 3.0 50 40 Clinton +10
McClatchy/Marist 3/29 - 3/31 1066 RV 3.0 50 41 Clinton +9
IBD/TIPP 3/28 - 4/2 819 RV 3.5 47 35 Clinton +12
PPP (D) 3/24 - 3/26 1083 RV 3.0 48 41 Clinton +7
FOX News 3/20 - 3/22 1016 RV 3.0 49 38 Clinton +11
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 815 LV 3.4 54 36 Clinton +18
Quinnipiac 3/16 - 3/21 1451 RV 2.6 46 40 Clinton +6
CBS News/NY Times 3/17 - 3/20 1058 RV 4.0 50 40 Clinton +10
CNN/ORC 3/17 - 3/20 925 RV 3.0 53 41 Clinton +12
Monmouth 3/17 - 3/20 848 RV 3.4 48 38 Clinton +10
ABC News/Wash Post 3/3 - 3/6 864 RV 4.0 50 41 Clinton +9
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 3/3 - 3/6 1200 RV 2.8 51 38 Clinton +13
Rasmussen Reports 2/29 - 3/1 1000 LV 3.0 41 36 Clinton +5
CNN/ORC 2/24 - 2/27 920 RV 3.0 52 44 Clinton +8
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 1031 RV 3.0 47 42 Clinton +5
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 43 45 Trump +2
Quinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 1342 RV 2.7 44 43 Clinton +1
Quinnipiac 2/2 - 2/4 1125 RV 2.9 46 41 Clinton +5
PPP (D) 2/2 - 2/3 1236 RV 2.8 47 40 Clinton +7
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 1/9 - 1/13 800 RV 3.5 51 41 Clinton +10
FOX News 1/4 - 1/7 1006 RV 3.0 44 47 Trump +3
Rasmussen Reports 12/22 - 12/23 1000 LV 3.0 37 36 Clinton +1
CNN/ORC 12/17 - 12/21 927 RV 3.0 49 47 Clinton +2
Quinnipiac 12/16 - 12/20 1140 RV 2.9 47 40 Clinton +7
FOX News 12/16 - 12/17 1013 RV 3.0 49 38 Clinton +11
PPP (D) 12/16 - 12/17 1267 RV 2.8 46 43 Clinton +3
ABC News/Wash Post 12/10 - 12/13 851 RV 4.0 50 44 Clinton +6
NBC/WSJ 12/6 - 12/9 849 RV 3.4 50 40 Clinton +10
USA Today/Suffolk 12/2 - 12/6 1000 LV 3.0 48 44 Clinton +4
CNN/ORC 11/27 - 12/1 930 RV 3.0 49 46 Clinton +3
Quinnipiac 11/23 - 11/30 1473 RV 2.6 47 41 Clinton +6
MSNBC/Telemundo/Marist 11/15 - 12/2 2360 RV 2.0 52 41 Clinton +11
FOX News 11/16 - 11/19 1016 RV 4.0 41 46 Trump +5
PPP (D) 11/16 - 11/17 1360 RV 2.7 45 44 Clinton +1
McClatchy/Marist 10/29 - 11/4 541 RV 4.2 56 41 Clinton +15
Quinnipiac 10/29 - 11/2 1144 RV 2.9 46 43 Clinton +3
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 10/25 - 10/29 847 RV 3.4 50 42 Clinton +8
CNN/ORC 10/14 - 10/17 956 RV 3.0 50 45 Clinton +5
FOX News 10/10 - 10/12 1004 RV 3.0 40 45 Trump +5
PPP (D) 10/1 - 10/4 1338 RV 2.7 44 44 Tie
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 9/20 - 9/24 RV -- 49 39 Clinton +10
FOX News 9/20 - 9/22 1013 RV 3.0 46 42 Clinton +4
Quinnipiac 9/17 - 9/21 1574 RV 2.5 45 43 Clinton +2
ABC News/Wash Post 9/7 - 9/10 821 RV 4.0 46 43 Clinton +3
CNN/ORC 9/4 - 9/8 930 RV 3.0 48 48 Tie
MSNBC/Telemundo/Marist 8/26 - 9/9 1115 RV 2.9 53 40 Clinton +13
SurveyUSA 9/2 - 9/3 900 RV 3.3 40 45 Trump +5
PPP (D) 8/28 - 8/30 1254 RV 2.8 46 44 Clinton +2
Quinnipiac 8/20 - 8/25 1563 RV 2.5 45 41 Clinton +4
CNN/ORC 8/13 - 8/16 897 RV 3.5 51 45 Clinton +6
FOX News 8/11 - 8/13 1008 RV 3.0 47 42 Clinton +5
Quinnipiac 7/23 - 7/28 1644 RV 2.4 48 36 Clinton +12
McClatchy/Marist 7/22 - 7/28 964 RV 3.2 54 38 Clinton +16
CNN/Opinion Research 7/22 - 7/25 898 RV 3.5 56 40 Clinton +16
PPP (D) 7/20 - 7/21 1087 RV 3.0 50 37 Clinton +13
USA Today/Suffolk 7/9 - 7/12 1000 LV 3.0 51 34 Clinton +17
CNN/Opinion Research 6/26 - 6/28 890 RV 3.5 59 35 Clinton +24
FOX News 6/21 - 6/23 1005 RV 3.0 51 34 Clinton +17
Quinnipiac 5/19 - 5/26 1711 RV 2.4 50 32 Clinton +18
 

COOL MAN

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That's been my question/thought - there are a lot of people and it seems like more than ever - that want to see change...Hillary isn't going to change much and Trump can't follow through on his promises - so then what happens?

If you come up with an answer to that question, be sure to post it.....because I sure as hell don't know what it is.
 

WhiteTailEER

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It was tongue in cheek in response to the article. Is there a difference between the parties? Yes, there is. One party believes that govt is the answer, the other doesn't. The problem is, we have probably gone down the road too far to stop our decline. By decline, I mean our own responsibility to fix things ourselves and not look to somebody else to solve them for us. The American people keep wanting more free stuff and sooner or later, we are going to run out of money. Your premise that there are always going to be poor people is correct and no amount of govt assistance will change that. However, there was 23 mill people on average on food stamps before Obama, now there 45 million. There's no reason for it other than trying to get more people to accept it and not want to think they shold work for it.


I realize your statement was TIC.

There absolutely is another reason for it.

It could be because hundreds of thousands of jobs PER MONTH were being lost in the months leading up to and into the beginning of Obama's term. There isn't any policy or philosophy that he has pushed that is enticing people to live this way. Lots and lots of good jobs were lost during the crash and they didn't come back.

There must be some cognitive dissonance in your reasoning. On the one hand you say that there's no reason for it other than people just choose to be lazy ... but then in another train of thought you say how the unemployment numbers are fudged because they don't take into account the people that have left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs. So, are the jobs there and people just don't want them, or are the jobs not there? You're going to have to give on one side of that argument or the other.

It's interesting to me that you say that the big difference is that one party believes govt is the answer and the other doesn't. Are you really sure about that? That's not the way it is from the way I see it. It is basically like everything else. One side supports these billionaires and the other supports another set of billionaires. One side wants the government to be in your life in one way and the other party wants the government to be in your life in a different way.

GOP wants to drug test welfare recipients, Dems don't.
GOP wants larger military, Dems don't.
GOP wants to tell women what they can do with their body, Dems don't.
GOP wants to monitor all of our communications, Dems don't.

Dems want to dictate what energy sources we use, GOP doesn't.
Dems want to expand entitlement programs, GOP doesn't.
Dems want to tax and control businesses and wall street, GOP doesn't.

It depends on where you're looking. But there are plenty of examples of where both sides want more government in our lives, not less .. it's just in different areas.

Again, two sides of the same coin.

Honestly, if you want a party that wants to get the government out of our business, you have to look at the Libertarian party. It's not either of the 2 main parties.
 

bornaneer

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I realize your statement was TIC.

There absolutely is another reason for it.

It could be because hundreds of thousands of jobs PER MONTH were being lost in the months leading up to and into the beginning of Obama's term. There isn't any policy or philosophy that he has pushed that is enticing people to live this way. Lots and lots of good jobs were lost during the crash and they didn't come back.

There must be some cognitive dissonance in your reasoning. On the one hand you say that there's no reason for it other than people just choose to be lazy ... but then in another train of thought you say how the unemployment numbers are fudged because they don't take into account the people that have left the workforce because they couldn't find jobs. So, are the jobs there and people just don't want them, or are the jobs not there? You're going to have to give on one side of that argument or the other.

It's interesting to me that you say that the big difference is that one party believes govt is the answer and the other doesn't. Are you really sure about that? That's not the way it is from the way I see it. It is basically like everything else. One side supports these billionaires and the other supports another set of billionaires. One side wants the government to be in your life in one way and the other party wants the government to be in your life in a different way.

GOP wants to drug test welfare recipients, Dems don't.
GOP wants larger military, Dems don't.
GOP wants to tell women what they can do with their body, Dems don't.
GOP wants to monitor all of our communications, Dems don't.

Dems want to dictate what energy sources we use, GOP doesn't.
Dems want to expand entitlement programs, GOP doesn't.
Dems want to tax and control businesses and wall street, GOP doesn't.

It depends on where you're looking. But there are plenty of examples of where both sides want more government in our lives, not less .. it's just in different areas.

Again, two sides of the same coin.

Honestly, if you want a party that wants to get the government out of our business, you have to look at the Libertarian party. It's not either of the 2 main parties.
You made some good points.....however you left out several others.
  1. One party wants all people who work to pay some taxes....One party does not.
  2. One party wants the laws to be respected and enforced.....One party does not.
  3. One party wants all people treated equally regardless of politics....One party does not.
  4. One party wants the media to be non political....One party does not.
 

Mntneer

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I agree and there's a long time between now and November. Having said that, Hillary's lead over Trump has been significant and unwavering since the onset.

Polling Data

Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/28 1000 LV 3.0 39 41 Trump +2
Rasmussen Reports 4/25 - 4/26 1000 LV 3.0 38 38 Tie
USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 50 39 Clinton +11
GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 46 43 Clinton +3
Bloomberg 3/19 - 3/22 815 LV 3.4 54 36 Clinton +18
Rasmussen Reports 2/29 - 3/1 1000 LV 3.0 41 36 Clinton +5
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 43 45 Trump +2
Rasmussen Reports 12/22 - 12/23 1000 LV 3.0 37 36 Clinton +1
USA Today/Suffolk 12/2 - 12/6 1000 LV 3.0 48 44 Clinton +4
USA Today/Suffolk 7/9 - 7/12 1000 LV 3.0 51 34 Clinton +17

Eliminating the Registered Voters polls, they're worthless, it's going to be an interesting race.
 
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You made some good points.....however you left out several others.
  1. One party wants all people who work to pay some taxes....One party does not.
  2. One party wants the laws to be respected and enforced.....One party does not.
  3. One party wants all people treated equally regardless of politics....One party does not.
  4. One party wants the media to be non political....One party does not.
 

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Mntneer

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Absolutely, an indictment would change everything. But without that, Trump has nobody on the ropes here.

Again... examine the "Likely Voters" polls... and not the "Registered Voters" poll. In an election where people ARE motivated to get out to vote for Trump, the "Likely" votes are where it's at.

Saw a good interview this evening Megan Kelly did with Michael Moore. He made a lot of very valid points that the left is overlooking when it comes to Trump.
 

moe

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You made some good points.....however you left out several others.
  1. One party wants all people who work to pay some taxes....One party does not.
  2. One party wants the laws to be respected and enforced.....One party does not.
  3. One party wants all people treated equally regardless of politics....One party does not.
  4. One party wants the media to be non political....One party does not.
Are you related to Mountain Bill? or maybe you're just in a league of your own when it comes to wack job posting. It's probably the latter, congrats.
 

bornaneer

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Are you related to Mountain Bill? or maybe you're just in a league of your own when it comes to wack job posting. It's probably the latter, congrats.

Thanks....I enjoy what I do.....That may have been my best one yet.[banana]
 

Popeer

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You made some good points.....however you left out several others.
  1. One party wants all people who work to pay some taxes....One party does not.
Umm -- you need to read the history of the Earned Income Credit. It was started by a Republican (Ford) and expanded by Reagan and both Bushes as well as Clinton and Obama.
 

bornaneer

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Umm -- you need to read the history of the Earned Income Credit. It was started by a Republican (Ford) and expanded by Reagan and both Bushes as well as Clinton and Obama.
That was probably a bad comment on part. I should stated it in a different way. It was meant to point to the mindset of some supporters of certain politicians. You also might want to think a little more about why I post some of what I do.......I hate hypocrites and I love to get them riled up.
 

WhiteTailEER

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You made some good points.....however you left out several others.
  1. One party wants all people who work to pay some taxes....One party does not.
  2. One party wants the laws to be respected and enforced.....One party does not.
  3. One party wants all people treated equally regardless of politics....One party does not.
  4. One party wants the media to be non political....One party does not.

Which is which in those?
For instance #2, there were many of the republicans standing behind Kim Davis when she didn't want to respect the law.
#3 ... I honestly don't think that can be said of either party ... really depends on which people you're talking about
#4 ... I don't believe either party wants that, I doubt they really want to see a truly objective, non political, media. One place that will call both sides out for their ridiculous ****? They want the divide, the us vs. them

Honestly, I think you've given several examples of exactly what my point was. Which is, both sides do the same ****, but to different segments of the country. Maybe that was your intention.

People on both the left and right on this board, do the same thing a lot of the time ... maybe most of the time. My party is righteous, your party is scum. Both of those statements apply equally to both parties depending on the topic.
 

bornaneer

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Honestly, I think you've given several examples of exactly what my point was. Which is, both sides do the same ****, but to different segments of the country. Maybe that was your intention..

In a way it was. That may have been a factor in why I did not use party designations. Some people may have taken the time to give it more thought while others did not.