Appearantly he never watched Ole Miss block this block this year. He's had him as the top available pick for two days.
Looks like Mel Kiper was wrong about Bobbie Massey
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</span></div><div class="datetime" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12px; ">The big uglies up front on the offensive side are our focus today. There are some quality veterans out there, but teams all across the league are looking to replace some quality linemen in the trenches.</span></div></div><div class="mod-content" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; ">
Here's how we see the league stacking up:
1. Alabama:Four of Alabama’s five linemen from a year ago return, making this one of the team’s strongest units. The returners have combined for more than 70 starts at Alabama. Barrett Jones is the star of the show. The junior has been the Tide’s starting right guard each of the past two seasons, but took reps at left tackle and could be asked to move. William Vlachos is back at center and could be the best at his position in the league. Fellow starters D.J. Fluker and Chance Warmack are back and took reps at left tackle this spring.
2. Ole Miss:The Rebels’ offense isn’t getting much respect this offseason, but its offensive line returns All-SEC candidates in tackles Bradley Sowell and Bobby Massie. Seven of Ole Miss’ linemen started two or more games each on the offensive line in 2010. Last season, the Rebels were first in the league in sacks allowed, giving up just 14. Alex Washington should stay at left guard after starting eight games there and A.J. Hawkins will likely get the nod at center after playing eight games there as well. Arkansas transfer Matt Hall will compete for time at center.</div></div></div>
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</span></div><div class="datetime" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 12px; ">The big uglies up front on the offensive side are our focus today. There are some quality veterans out there, but teams all across the league are looking to replace some quality linemen in the trenches.</span></div></div><div class="mod-content" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-image: initial; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 12px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif; ">
Here's how we see the league stacking up:
1. Alabama:Four of Alabama’s five linemen from a year ago return, making this one of the team’s strongest units. The returners have combined for more than 70 starts at Alabama. Barrett Jones is the star of the show. The junior has been the Tide’s starting right guard each of the past two seasons, but took reps at left tackle and could be asked to move. William Vlachos is back at center and could be the best at his position in the league. Fellow starters D.J. Fluker and Chance Warmack are back and took reps at left tackle this spring.
2. Ole Miss:The Rebels’ offense isn’t getting much respect this offseason, but its offensive line returns All-SEC candidates in tackles Bradley Sowell and Bobby Massie. Seven of Ole Miss’ linemen started two or more games each on the offensive line in 2010. Last season, the Rebels were first in the league in sacks allowed, giving up just 14. Alex Washington should stay at left guard after starting eight games there and A.J. Hawkins will likely get the nod at center after playing eight games there as well. Arkansas transfer Matt Hall will compete for time at center.</div></div></div>
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2011 CFN Preseason Rankings
CFN 2011 Unit Rankings
Note:This is based on talent, returning starters, and skill. It’s not necessarily based on what the final total offense statistics will be.
1.Ole Miss
Years of fantastic recruiting for the offensive front from the former coaching staff paid off last year, and now the results should be special. Partly because the offense didn’t throw on a regular basis and partly because Jeremiah Masoli was mobile, but the pass protection was strong and the front five paved the way for a great year from the ground game. With most of the key parts returning, there’s reason to be excited. Bradley Sowell and Bobby Massie are terrific tackles to work around, and the interior isn’t anything to blow off. With bulk, experience, and talent, expect a special year for the team’s biggest strength.
2.Oklahoma State
There’s only one true star up front, OT Levi Adcock, but this is one of the most consistently productive and most experienced lines in the country. The Cowboy skill players get all the credit and all the spotlight, but this line could be the team’s biggest strength – fine, so second biggest behind the receiving corps, The only concern is backup experience. If a slew of big injuries hit, there might be problem with its consistency.
3.Missouri
Missouri always has a strong, talented offensive line, but it didn’t do as much as expected in pass protection last year and didn’t blast away like it needed to for the ground game. Four starters return with center Tim Barnes the only one gone from the mix, and now the expectations are sky high for a front five that should be dominant from the start, and is should be fine even with star tackle Elvis Fisher suffering a knee injury. Travis Ruth has been around long enough to know what he’s doing, while the other four starters have been through the wars and should be able to shine. Not only is this group full of veterans, but it also has a slew of all-conference performers in the classroom. There shouldn’t be too many mistakes, if any.
4.Wisconsin
This isn’t going to be the killer line it was last year, but it’s not going to be all that far off. Travis Frederick and Ricky Wagner will be great on the left side with a little bit of time, and Peter Konz is one of the best centers in America and is a huge piece of the puzzle to get back. Anything the line can get out of Josh Oglesby would be nice, and if it all finally comes together, look out. Don’t hold your breath, but there are more than enough massive blockers to see time in the rotation.
5.Kentucky
The line ended up being a positive for the offense as the season went on. With a standstill quarterback in Mike Hartline to protect, the Cats finished second in the SEC in sacks allowed and did a decent job for a running game that averaged 159 yards per game. For all intents and purposes, five starters are back on the line that held together relatively well last season. Considering experience was supposed to be a major problem last year, everything turned out fine. If everyone stays healthy, this should be a rock of a front wall working around the massive Larry Warford and veteran left guard Stuart Hines..
6.Alabama
Andre Smith left, and James Carpenter stepped in and was terrific. Carpenter is gone, and now it’s time for Barrett Jones, William Vlachos, and D.J. Fluker to become even more dominant blockers. There’s too much talent at all five spots, and there’s too much depth, for this to not grow into one of the nation’s best lines. Not only do four starters return, but many of the backups have had enough starting time to be ready to step in if needed. McCullough and Steen can play, and Boswell and Love are ready to do</font></span></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div>
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Offensive Lines</font><span style="font-family: Arial; "><font face="Arial">
2011 CFN Preseason Rankings
CFN 2011 Unit Rankings
Note:This is based on talent, returning starters, and skill. It’s not necessarily based on what the final total offense statistics will be.
1.Ole Miss
Years of fantastic recruiting for the offensive front from the former coaching staff paid off last year, and now the results should be special. Partly because the offense didn’t throw on a regular basis and partly because Jeremiah Masoli was mobile, but the pass protection was strong and the front five paved the way for a great year from the ground game. With most of the key parts returning, there’s reason to be excited. Bradley Sowell and Bobby Massie are terrific tackles to work around, and the interior isn’t anything to blow off. With bulk, experience, and talent, expect a special year for the team’s biggest strength.
2.Oklahoma State
There’s only one true star up front, OT Levi Adcock, but this is one of the most consistently productive and most experienced lines in the country. The Cowboy skill players get all the credit and all the spotlight, but this line could be the team’s biggest strength – fine, so second biggest behind the receiving corps, The only concern is backup experience. If a slew of big injuries hit, there might be problem with its consistency.
3.Missouri
Missouri always has a strong, talented offensive line, but it didn’t do as much as expected in pass protection last year and didn’t blast away like it needed to for the ground game. Four starters return with center Tim Barnes the only one gone from the mix, and now the expectations are sky high for a front five that should be dominant from the start, and is should be fine even with star tackle Elvis Fisher suffering a knee injury. Travis Ruth has been around long enough to know what he’s doing, while the other four starters have been through the wars and should be able to shine. Not only is this group full of veterans, but it also has a slew of all-conference performers in the classroom. There shouldn’t be too many mistakes, if any.
4.Wisconsin
This isn’t going to be the killer line it was last year, but it’s not going to be all that far off. Travis Frederick and Ricky Wagner will be great on the left side with a little bit of time, and Peter Konz is one of the best centers in America and is a huge piece of the puzzle to get back. Anything the line can get out of Josh Oglesby would be nice, and if it all finally comes together, look out. Don’t hold your breath, but there are more than enough massive blockers to see time in the rotation.
5.Kentucky
The line ended up being a positive for the offense as the season went on. With a standstill quarterback in Mike Hartline to protect, the Cats finished second in the SEC in sacks allowed and did a decent job for a running game that averaged 159 yards per game. For all intents and purposes, five starters are back on the line that held together relatively well last season. Considering experience was supposed to be a major problem last year, everything turned out fine. If everyone stays healthy, this should be a rock of a front wall working around the massive Larry Warford and veteran left guard Stuart Hines..
6.Alabama
Andre Smith left, and James Carpenter stepped in and was terrific. Carpenter is gone, and now it’s time for Barrett Jones, William Vlachos, and D.J. Fluker to become even more dominant blockers. There’s too much talent at all five spots, and there’s too much depth, for this to not grow into one of the nation’s best lines. Not only do four starters return, but many of the backups have had enough starting time to be ready to step in if needed. McCullough and Steen can play, and Boswell and Love are ready to do</font></span></span></td></tr></tbody></table></div>
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re"> </span>qb but he had no chance at all playing behind that line. king archie wouldn't have won 6 games with that line. and what does seven line that started at least 2 games make you happy about? i'd bet many school return 7 people who started 2 or more games, hell we might have had 7 players who had started and our line was an abortion.</div>
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</span></div><div>what the 17 makes you excited about this? seriously, did yancy write this? look at the bold text. i really don't know what the 17 to say about those to comments. i know this is from last season but why were there such high expectations? i know i wasn't the only person seeing masoli run for his life. the dude was a good<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space
re"> </span>qb but he had no chance at all playing behind that line. king archie wouldn't have won 6 games with that line. and what does seven line that started at least 2 games make you happy about? i'd bet many school return 7 people who started 2 or more games, hell we might have had 7 players who had started and our line was an abortion.</div>was the only reason preseason 2011 they thought the OL was good. Stupid talking heads.
edit to add I'm sure I bought in anyway, wool is thick in the summer.
edit to add I'm sure I bought in anyway, wool is thick in the summer.
