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REDRICH65

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His family could stay in Tampa area until kids go to college. Get a U copter and fly home several days in off season a and a day or so every few weeks in season.
 

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We will regret it mightily if GS takes a power 5 job on the east coast. He was right-he didn't build it on stilts or Flood would have toppled it already.

However even the strongest foundation can be chipped away and we are watching a slow death. I see one more year here. Of what, eroding pride, diminishing the fan base, striving for 6-6? Maybe moving to a year of no blocked kicks at all?
 

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I don't think a disciplinarian like GS makes any sense in Miami. The players at the U are brash, arrogant and cocky. The HCs that succeeded there were guys like Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis, Howard Schnell.. - guys that were brash themselves and allowed their players to be the same. Imagine in a year guys like Sapp, Irvin, Shockey tweeting about GS is a stiff and doesn't know how to motivate. VTech does make sense for him though.
 
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An oxymoron if there ever was one [laughing]
Maybe but i got the thought on the Cuse recruiting board where a respected Brooklyn Cuse fan warns the fans there that HCKF is very popular there and Cuse is never an ultimatum unless its against UConn/Temple and he thinks soon even the 4 stars will come here....i think he goes by BKLNCUSE...on the ''dumpstefire'' long thread....
 
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Again, a Miami coach has no need to come to NJ. They can fill a top 15 class in their own county. If a Miami coach is coming here it's for a guy like Gary and every coach is coming for him. If Schiano goes to Miami and he needs to come to NJ for low 4 and high 3 stars he won't last long. Miami alum, Miami NFL guys, and Miami rappers want a team full of Miami kids. Not Big North Parochial south.

Larry Coker tried that, and it was a failure.

a Miami coach will always need to come to the northeast, not necessarily NJ, to grab linemen, if they want to win Championships. Thats why they have alquadin mohamed, courtel jenkins, and kevin feder.

their last national championship team had:

LT - Bryant McKinnie - NJ
LG - Sherko haji rasouli- Montreal/ED Wilkins - NJ
C- Brett Romberg - Ontario
RG - Martin Bibla - Pa
RT - Joaquin Gonzalez - FL
 
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I don't think a disciplinarian like GS makes any sense in Miami. The players at the U are brash, arrogant and cocky. The HCs that succeeded there were guys like Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis, Howard Schnell.. - guys that were brash themselves and allowed their players to be the same. Imagine in a year guys like Sapp, Irvin, Shockey tweeting about GS is a stiff and doesn't know how to motivate. VTech does make sense for him though.
I don't see GS in the sticks...
 

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Didn't Golden get labeled a "lazy recruiter" because he spent all his time recruiting NJ instead of Dade County?

Firing Golden to hire Schiano would be like us firing Flood & hiring UDelaware's OL coach.
Somehow i think AG would be a perfect fit here except or his PSU ties..
 

NBKnight

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Not necessarily. No matter where he goes he will hit NJ hard. Selling NJ recruits Miami could be easier than MD, PA, VA.

Given relationships schiano has made in both FL and NJ he'd be a great Miami hire.

The point is, why would you recruit any place other than south Florida hard if you are at Miami. Of course he would recruit national level guys from NJ just like everyone else.
 
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I don't think a disciplinarian like GS makes any sense in Miami. The players at the U are brash, arrogant and cocky. The HCs that succeeded there were guys like Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis, Howard Schnell.. - guys that were brash themselves and allowed their players to be the same. Imagine in a year guys like Sapp, Irvin, Shockey tweeting about GS is a stiff and doesn't know how to motivate. VTech does make sense for him though.

Butch Davis ran a tight ship and kept the players under control. Miami has more talent than they know what to do with. they are crying out for discipline. GS is exactly what they need. As long as GS wins, all will be fine. IF he doesn't, they'll start yelping pretty quickly.
 
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theRU

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We will regret it mightily if GS takes a power 5 job on the east coast. He was right-he didn't build it on stilts or Flood would have toppled it already.

However even the strongest foundation can be chipped away and we are watching a slow death. I see one more year here. Of what, eroding pride, diminishing the fan base, striving for 6-6? Maybe moving to a year of no blocked kicks at all?

Foundation was strong but we didnt expect this flood to erode the ground this way.
 

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Don't have one


So, the OP writes a post that sounds like he has info and is stating a fact...stirs up a mini-sh&tstorm...and comes back with "oops" "don't have one" when asked for a link to said information???? smh lol
 

AreYouNUTS

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because every college football coach that spent 1 second of his life in NJ steals every NJ HS football player in the entire state for every year and Rutgers end up with zero NJ players ever

Yeah, that has nothing at all to do with the guy currently doing the recruiting for us, lol!
 

Beancounter88

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Butch Davis ran a tight ship and kept the players under control. Miami has more talent than they know what to do with. they are crying out for discipline. GS is exactly what they need. As long as GS wins, all will be fine. IF he doesn't, they'll start yelping pretty quickly.
Miami had violations imposed during Davis' tenure (most tied to Dennis Erickson I believe) but he had academic misconduct charges against him while at UNC. I'm not sure he ran a "tight ship". But, as Warren Sapp once said "class is a place you pick up women".
 
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Miami had violations imposed during Davis' tenure (most tied to Dennis Erickson I believe) but he had academic misconduct charges against him while at UNC. I'm not sure he ran a "tight ship". But, as Warren Sapp once said "class is a place you pick up women".

Butch Davis was brought in after the Dennis Erickson Pell Grant Schedule but he ran a tight ship at Miami.

Butch Davis was cleared in the UNC scandel:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-unc-scandal-davis-still-waiting-for-next-gig
 

Kbee3

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Again, Greg Schiano threads should start and end with "we'd be lucky to have him".

Yep. I was surprised when he took the job the first time.
A real shame that he couldn't win enough here and was forced to run away to Tampa.
I fail to understand why anyone would think he'd come back here.
 

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I don't think a disciplinarian like GS makes any sense in Miami. The players at the U are brash, arrogant and cocky. The HCs that succeeded there were guys like Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis, Howard Schnell.. - guys that were brash themselves and allowed their players to be the same. Imagine in a year guys like Sapp, Irvin, Shockey tweeting about GS is a stiff and doesn't know how to motivate. VTech does make sense for him though.


Butch Davis was a disciplinarian. Talk to anybody that played or coached for him. And the Pell Grant issue was for violations that preceded him.
 

NBKnight

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Yep. I was surprised when he took the job the first time.
A real shame that he couldn't win enough here and was forced to run away to Tampa.
I fail to understand why anyone would think he'd come back here.

He was not forced to Tampa, he wanted a shot at the NFL.

If he had won more, he would have gotten a better NFL job.
 

RUsojo

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Not for the price its going to cost to get him.

If the goal is to make an investment in the program and pay market value ie over $2M+, there is not other candidate worth that much who would come here. So there's that.

Edit: as I've mentioned before there's no evidence he would in fact come here but hopefully Rutgers holds a special place in his heart and as I said before we'd be lucky to get him back.
 
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MoobyCow

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If the goal is to make an investment in the program and pay market value ie over $2M+, there is not other candidate worth that much who would come here. So there's that.

I tend to think that this is correct.
 

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Schiano at Miami would be much, much better than him at a B1G school, especially Maryland. In miami area alone, he has more talent than he could ever ask for. People forget just how much he spent on the banks just trying to nab as many FL guys as he could.

Now sure he may pluck a few NJ guys now and then because of previous relationships with HS coaches, but miami is one of the few jobs in which he doesn't need NJ. At nearly any other job, he would need to fully utilize his NJ recruiting and Maryland would be a disaster.
 

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His disciplinarian ways will not work with Florida kids. I've seen HS teams practice in Florida and those kids are faster, tougher and more tenacious than kids from up here. One more thing, they want to play on Sunday's not necessarily learn about macro economics. In order to be successful he will have to focus on gridiron success, anything else and he'll fail. Remember he's competing with two proven commodities FSU and Florida. The best Miami teams were under Dennis Ericsson (sp). Love them or hate them they recruited tons of talent and played an exciting brand of football. I wish coach Schiano the best of luck if he's offered the job.
 

RU31trap

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Again, Greg Schiano threads should start and end with "we'd be lucky to have him".
I disagree. If the administration was willing to spend the money and remove the handcuffs and allow an established coaching staff (coordinators/assistants) to recruit key players and prepare for B10 play you could do much much better.
 

Kbee3

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I disagree. If the administration was willing to spend the money and remove the handcuffs and allow an established coaching staff (coordinators/assistants) to recruit key players and prepare for B10 play you could do much much better.

That's a nice dream.....but there's no reason to believe that it could ever happen here.
 

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So, the OP writes a post that sounds like he has info and is stating a fact...stirs up a mini-sh&tstorm...and comes back with "oops" "don't have one" when asked for a link to said information???? smh lol


Fact? Wow read the post. Most links, well actually everything here gets bashed. But it's real, not made up FWIW.
 
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His disciplinarian ways will not work with Florida kids. I've seen HS teams practice in Florida and those kids are faster, tougher and more tenacious than kids from up here. One more thing, they want to play on Sunday's not necessarily learn about macro economics. In order to be successful he will have to focus on gridiron success, anything else and he'll fail. Remember he's competing with two proven commodities FSU and Florida. The best Miami teams were under Dennis Ericsson (sp). Love them or hate them they recruited tons of talent and played an exciting brand of football. I wish coach Schiano the best of luck if he's offered the job.

Miami is crying out for more discipline, as that's exactly what they need to be more successful.

Butch Davis ruled Miami with an iron fist, and his disciplinarian ways transformed Miami into a powerhouse. Larry Coker was a player all the players loved (sound familiar?) and was able to take the strong foundation and win for a couple of years, but things ultimately fell apart. Its almost like the same situation at Rutgers, though Miami enjoyed significantly more success.

Miami has higher academic requirements than Rutgers, which is why Nate Robinson couldn't get into Miami, but played at Rutgers his freshman year. Kids there balance academics and football and many of the ideas that Schiano learned at Miami were transplanted to Rutgers, with the help of Mario Cristobal and other coaches, which is part of what facilitated the scholastic success of our players. As long as he hires a Good OC, and let him do his thing, he'll be very successful, if he were to be hired there.
 

REDRICH65

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Rutgersai, here's where you've way off base. Miami has higher academic standards than Rutgers. Gimme a break. You've just exposed yourself as knowing nothing about academics AND football. Don't know how this happened, but THIS IS NOT MY POST !!! -- Redrich 65 !



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NBKnight

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Rutgersai, here's where you've way off base. Miami has higher academic standards than Rutgers. Gimme a break. You've just exposed yourself as knowing nothing about academics AND football.



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Al is right, in regard to admissions.
 

RC1991

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Al is right about Miami....and I also have a degree from both RU and Miami....in fact, spent more time in grad school at Miami (6 years) then I did at Rutgers.....and was there for the end of the Erickson run and beginning of Butch Davis' time there.
 

rufeelinit

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I think Schiano and Miami would be a very good match. Don't understand the Dolphins part of the OP's post. Christobal might work out for the Canes as well but to me Schiano is the surer thing for them.