LOVE THE COMING DEMOCRATIC SHUMER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN

baltimorened

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They are not hurting MAGA supporters to any appreciable extent guaranteed. Is my Healthcare costs increasing for next year? Yes. Is it due to anything Trump did? No.

The subsidies were mainly subsidizing Healthcare for illegal aliens. Some Americans will pay more but they can thank Obama and democrats for it. This all will just make Trump more popular. We will not be manipulated by the communist insurrectionists otherwise known as democrats.
as I've posted before, ACA premiums are set to increase by about 20%..3% of that is attributed to lose of the extended subsidies. So premiums are going up significantly no matter what happens in the Congress - unless they really increase the amount of subsidies and that isn't happening
 

PalmettoTiger1

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I still have my ridiculously overpriced insurance that covers basically nothing, it’s withdrawn from my paycheck twice a month.

My hope is the moderate Democrats and All Republicans collaborate on solving the problems that Obama and Biden created for America with groundbreaking ideas and legislation to solve problems to advance a better and best American.

Let’s pray that Our politicians put the good of the country over the lust for power of the progressives who want to destroy America and the dreams and hopes of patriots.
 

MTTiger19

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My hope is the moderate Democrats and All Republicans collaborate on solving the problems that Obama and Biden created for America with groundbreaking ideas and legislation to solve problems to advance a better and best American.

Let’s pray that Our politicians put the good of the country over the lust for power of the progressives who want to destroy America and the dreams and hopes of patriots.
Empower the consumer (in this instance the patient) not the companies. Allow consumers to choose their providers and coverages, that will create competition amongst insurance and healthcare providers. The only way to lower the cost in our system is through competition, we aren’t a single payer or socialized medicine system … yet. Let the providers (hospitals, labs, physicians, nurses, insurance providers) compete for our money. Quit giving billion dollar subsidies to giant corporations. Seems like a simple solution to me but it’s clearly complicated.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Empower the consumer (in this instance the patient) not the companies. Allow consumers to choose their keiproviders and coverages, that will create competition amongst insurance and healthcare providers. The only way to lower the cost in our system is through competition, we aren’t a single payer or socialized medicine system … yet. Let the providers (hospitals, labs, physicians, nurses, insurance providers) compete for our money. Quit giving billion dollar subsidies to giant corporations. Seems like a simple solution to me but it’s clearly complicated.

First let me say I am a mere mortal unlike the Gods of TDS Resistance on here.

The government has had success in some areas such as Social Security. Again the problem I have is being a mere mortal the amounts of money flowing per second in and out of the US Treasury is unfathomable.

So hopefully I have explained my total ignorance.

Now to say my ignorant thinking. It is stupid to give money mindlessly to insurance companies.

ACA has totally collapsed and failed Americans. The program needs to be thrown out and completely revamped. I am 100% onboard if the Sane Moderate Democrats will collude with the Republicans to work with Mr Trump to fix it.

That will mean the TDS folks will be ranting and raving about Hitler Trump along with Heil Hitler salutes and other identity political bias.

Hoping this happens
 

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By the way I would vote for John Fetterman all day long as a Democrat

I was totally against him when he ran but the man is a true American Patriot

Love him for his Common Sense America First Approach
 
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I think this says it all...

Moderate Democrats Cave, American Public Wins

What else does it say? Extreme Democrats Hold, American Public Loses..... Think about that.
yea, that's true. But seemingly by definition if one party "caves" isn't that at least a minor indication they were the ones holding things up.

I still say republicans missed the boat on messaging. To me, it seems as if no matter what happens with subsidies, premiums are going up substantially. The average American doesn't have any idea, or doesn't care about, how much the subsidies are, he is only concerned about the monthly payment. So even if republicans agreed to the subsidies, when the average person get;s his bill and sees the new total, he's going to blame republicans for the steep increases.
 

dpic73

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Boos from extremists who want don't move me. Sorry. Your party is a f'ing national disgrace.
Our party was trying to help the millions in your party who will be unable to pay for their healthcare because of your party's greed and indifference and you taint lickers don't even get invited to the Great Gatsby balls or the golden ballrooms.

The voters told you who they thought the real disgrace was last week.

 

m.knox

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Our party was trying to help the millions in your party who will be unable to pay for their healthcare because of your party's greed and indifference and you taint lickers don't even get invited to the Great Gatsby balls or the golden ballrooms.

The voters told you who they thought the real disgrace was last week.



LMFAO... The cult has a good one in you.

Your party was looking to starve snap recipients. Let that sink in. You used them as fodder to boost the failing ACA act.

What a f'ing disgrace... And in front of a national audience....
 

dpic73

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LMFAO... The cult has a good one in you.

Your party was looking to starve snap recipients. Let that sink in. You used them as fodder to boost the failing ACA act.

What a f'ing disgrace... And in front of a national audience....
All the polls told you who Americans blamed for the shutdown but you're not paying attention - hint, it wasn't the Democrats. And don't think the electorate didn't notice that Trump refused to use the emergency funding set aside for SNAP recipients for occasions like this and even went to the Supreme Court to fight sending the checks out after lower courts ruled that he had to. Cruel, greedy elite that he is.

And here's a little talked about election from last Tuesday that highlights what a repudiation of Trump it was. In a Pennsylvania county where Trump won 75% of the vote (50 point margin) the Democrat running for the open judicial seat beat the Republican - that's how bad of a wipeout it was. Things are bleak for you magas and they're going to get worse, so you're wasting your time posting all this obnoxious propaganda LOL.


 
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Liberal fury over shutdown deal convulses Democrats​


Democrats should be convulsing about the direction of their party with these extremists. It's a disgrace.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5599127-shutdown-deal-democrats/

Tensions in the Democratic Party are boiling over this week after a group of mostly moderate Democratic senators joined Republicans to advance a bill to reopen the government.

The Democrats’ support for the spending bill all but ensures that the history-making shutdown will soon end, but it came without Republicans giving any ground on the Democrats’ central demand for an extension of ObamaCare subsidies.

The stunning development Sunday night has infuriated liberals in and out of Congress, who had cheered Democrats throughout the weeks-long shutdown and urged them to keep up the fight for the sake of preventing health care costs from skyrocketing at the beginning of next year.

After a small group of Democrats defied those calls, providing the votes needed to surpass their own party’s filibuster, liberals fumed that the centrists gave away the store without anything in return. The frustrations were only fueled by the results of last week’s off-year elections, which gave Democrats resounding victories across the country — and suggested voters wanted them to continue fighting for the health care subsidies.

“What Senate Dems who voted for this horses‑‑‑ deal did was f‑‑‑ over all the hard work people put in to Tuesday’s elections,” Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), a former head of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, posted on social platform X. “Healthcare matters. Not platitudes.”

The criticisms also came from liberal activist groups, which have accused Democrats of not fighting hard enough against President Trump since his return to the White House this year.

“We cannot afford a divided and weak opposition party when an authoritarian is invading our cities, terrorizing our communities, and corruptly self-enriching at the expense of the rest of us,” Ezra Levin, co-founder and co-executive director of Indivisible, said in a statement after the deal was announced. “We hope to celebrate the Democratic Party for fighting back. But if they surrender, the next step is primaries and new leadership.

“We get the party we demand, and we intend to demand one that fights.”
 
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m.knox

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All the polls told you who Americans blamed for the shutdown but you're not paying attention - hint, it wasn't the Democrats. And don't think the electorate didn't notice that Trump refused to use the emergency funding set aside for SNAP recipients for occasions like this and even went to the Supreme Court to fight sending the checks out after lower courts ruled that he had to. Cruel, greedy elite that he is.

And here's a little talked about election from last Tuesday that highlights what a repudiation of Trump it was. In a Pennsylvania county where Trump won 75% of the vote (50 point margin) the Democrat running for the open juducial seat beat the Republican - that's how bad of a wipeout it was. Things are bleak for you magas and they're going to get worse, so you're wasting your time posting all this obnoxious propaganda LOL.



Democrats say to the poor, "eat dirt."

Democrats have admitted they are the reason the poor suffer. Get over it. You lost AGAIN... LMFAO....

Democrats = LOSING