Lowe (ballhogging)

kyjeff1

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Has potential but not this season. So we basically wasted good nil on a project. Means we'll have to pay him at least another year if we want any roi.

He has several problems beyond mindset. Plays way too high, which compounds his lack of lower body strength. Also makes his handle high which makes it tougher on him to beat defenders off the dribble.

In addition, he needs to get stronger in general. More lower body strength will help the above, but he just needs more mass.
We don't know if any of this will happen though. It’s all just a guess. We have seen guys get it going in year 1 many times and I don't mind retaining guys like JJ and MM, they will be very good players, maybe even this year.

Truth is, the team is in a funk, none of them are playing anywhere close to their potential. If these guys get around the corner and start heading towards their ceiling, you will see guys like JJ start playing like he's capable of.
 

Kentucky15

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We don't know if any of this will happen though. It’s all just a guess. We have seen guys get it going in year 1 many times and I don't mind retaining guys like JJ and MM, they will be very good players, maybe even this year.

Truth is, the team is in a funk, none of them are playing anywhere close to their potential. If these guys get around the corner and start heading towards their ceiling, you will see guys like JJ start playing like he's capable of.
I hope they’re not because I don’t see any good basketball players. I see average and poor. Not a few average and really good / great players. Their misses aren’t even close. They clang offf the rim or air ball. They have trouble hitting wide open layups. They remind me of women’s basketball. I mean, that Indiana team wasn’t a good team. No way they’ll be quality win. No height and wildly unauthentic. Hell, Wilkerson didn’t look like the hype to me at all. Typical UK teams would have beaten that Indiana team by 40 and we struggled a large part of the game with them. You can see marks face at the presser. He knows it. He’s done this a long time as a coach and a player. This team just isn’t good.
 

kyjeff1

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I hope they’re not because I don’t see any good basketball players. I see average and poor. Not a few average and really good / great players. Their misses aren’t even close. They clang offf the rim or air ball. They have trouble hitting wide open layups. They remind me of women’s basketball. I mean, that Indiana team wasn’t a good team. No way they’ll be quality win. No height and wildly unauthentic. Hell, Wilkerson didn’t look like the hype to me at all. Typical UK teams would have beaten that Indiana team by 40 and we struggled a large part of the game with them. You can see marks face at the presser. He knows it. He’s done this a long time as a coach and a player. This team just isn’t good.
Right, but my hope is that these guys eventually start playing to their potential and JJ has plenty of that.

Thing is, not one single player is playing close to what their stats were last year, and in the case of the freshmen, if all the veterans are struggling, we can assume the freshmen aren’t playing well either.

I really think we need to wait until the offense is fixed before we judge these players. This offense has absolutely zero identity, so it makes sense that the players are struggling.
 
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We don't know if any of this will happen though. It’s all just a guess. We have seen guys get it going in year 1 many times and I don't mind retaining guys like JJ and MM, they will be very good players, maybe even this year.

Truth is, the team is in a funk, none of them are playing anywhere close to their potential. If these guys get around the corner and start heading towards their ceiling, you will see guys like JJ start playing like he's capable of.

Imo he can't gain enough strength to be effective this year. That just isn't something that can happen.

For this year, best case is him learning to not play standing up. That wont fix everything, but can at least make him not be a disaster vs the upcoming sec gauntlet.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I liked his energy, but at times I felt he was ball hogging too much, we need a point guard that is pass first, he missed several players on break aways, then held the ball the whole shot clock just too get his shot. It worked last night, but he can't continue too play that way
In his defense for that IU game Enright could not hold his jock so he was abusing him that second half.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Well, one thing w/ Lowe is he definitely gets the ball closer to the basket while he is dribbling. Our bigs need to get open inside to receive a pass. He doesn't waste time dribbling out around the 3 pt line. I think once the team gets comfortable with him leading we'll be on track.
He at least puts pressure on the defense to generate open looks.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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He’s the spark plug to our offense. It be different if we had 2 or 3 guards that could create on their own but he’s basically surrounded by some Pitt like players.
Which is why I want JJ to hopefully learn what a great shot is and to start passing. He really is a good offensive player and helps us in that regard massively. One of the only guys that can score off the dribble shooting the ball.
 

kyjeff1

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That’s exactly what the staff should be reigning in. For all of Calipari’s flaws, he would have molded Johnson into a beast by now IMHO. He would at least look like a guy ready to play 25+ minutes a game by now.
Yeah, but Cal will sacrifice an entire season to get a guy going just because the ratings say that kid is a lottery pick. Meanwhile, players that were better suited to help us win games now, sat on the bench.
And in cases like Edwards, Boston, the Dragon, Quade Green and others, they never did figure it out, so all those games that were sacrificed, were for nothing.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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Yeah, but Cal will sacrifice an entire season to get a guy going just because the ratings say that kid is a lottery pick. Meanwhile, players that were better suited to help us win games now, sat on the bench.
And in cases like Edwards, Boston, the Dragon, Quade Green and others, they never did figure it out, so all those games that were sacrificed, were for nothing.
Yeah that is true, but the vast majority of his largely talented guards to play well over his career. I feel like someone with Jasper’s raw offensive talent he would be very good under someone like Cal.
 

I’m The Village Idiot

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Yeah that is true, but the vast majority of his largely talented guards to play well over his career. I feel like someone with Jasper’s raw offensive talent he would be very good under someone like Cal.
Every player with immense skill didn’t get transformed into a superstar either. Jasper is a freshman and for some guys it takes a lot of time. Patience, Padawon.
 
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Every player with immense skill didn’t get transformed into a superstar either. Jasper is a freshman and for some guys it takes a lot of time. Patience, Padawon.
I don't know how anyone could've watched the Cal era, especially the last 5 years, and conclude that Cal has a magic wand with guards. Cal certainly had some studs at the guards position, but there were some clear misses.

Look at his last team here. Would Cal have Johnson playing like Dillingham or Wagner? The extremes existed on the same team.

As you state, the timetable varies. Johnson might come on and have some spectacular minutes as the season progresses. Maybe he doesn't shine until next season.
 

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I am not sold on Lowe as being some great point guard but I do know if he isn’t playing big minutes on this particular team, we probably won’t win 16 games.

At least twice last night he crossed midcourt and immediately threw it to Garrison who had also just passed midcourt. I thought to myself "point guards don't do that." Maybe his conditioning just isn't there yet.
 

irishcat1965

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At least twice last night he crossed midcourt and immediately threw it to Garrison who had also just passed midcourt. I thought to myself "point guards don't do that." Maybe his conditioning just isn't there yet.
He did it because his decision making can be suspect on occasion. But he is Magic Johnson compared to anyone else on the roster trying to play point guard- that is how badly this team was put together.
 

kyjeff1

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At least twice last night he crossed midcourt and immediately threw it to Garrison who had also just passed midcourt. I thought to myself "point guards don't do that." Maybe his conditioning just isn't there yet.
I see a lot of guards do that. I think that is a way to reset themselves, but that's just a guess.
 
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Lowe missed some easy looks (rust) but he didn’t play near the hero ball Aberdeen or Chandler tried to last night. He’s our best facilitator and that’s what this team is missing. Outside of his passing, a back door cut & assist from Mo, and two Trent Noah kick outs for 3 there’s wasn’t much playmaking going on. One thing I’ll give Garrison, he wants to make a play for someone else when the ball is in his hands. He just doesn’t always make great decisions. Glad to see his effort improve last night.
 

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Which is why I want JJ to hopefully learn what a great shot is and to start passing. He really is a good offensive player and helps us in that regard massively. One of the only guys that can score off the dribble shooting the ball.
I actually love JJ being out there with Lowe. I feel like he’s not as rushed to shoot the 3 and also penetrates more. I agree with Barkley on how we need to play fast and push the ball more. I feel like our defense is just gonna keep getting better as the season goes on. We could end up being really really special but we have to get out into transition. We cannot play half court basketball and I hope Pope will realize this. Less 3s and just get to rim.
 

I’m The Village Idiot

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I don't know how anyone could've watched the Cal era, especially the last 5 years, and conclude that Cal has a magic wand with guards. Cal certainly had some studs at the guards position, but there were some clear misses.

Look at his last team here. Would Cal have Johnson playing like Dillingham or Wagner? The extremes existed on the same team.

As you state, the timetable varies. Johnson might come on and have some spectacular minutes as the season progresses. Maybe he doesn't shine until next season.
There is a natural phenomenon that occurs. The farther people get removed from a situation, the more people remember the parts of that memory that had emphasis to them and they forget the rest. This is why people forget how rough patches of the 2017 regular season were and why people remember the 2020 team being “the best team in the country by the end of the season.” People will forget how dominant the 2022 team was at one point. The only reason I remember these things is I’m not a healthy person lol —- I regularly rewatch old games from all eras and study those teams years later. As for Calipari, yes he worked magic with some players, but people forget that other players didn’t get it right away. Immanuel Quickley was a very inefficient player his freshman season. A year later, he was SEC POY. Other players like DJ Wagner, Justin Edwards, Charles Matthews, Skal Labissierre, and BJ Boston struggled to various degrees. None of those things mean one thing or another about Calipari to me — some players are going to excel and others are not in a dribble drive motion offense. Cal gets too much credit and too much blame in this area imo.
 

Kentucky15

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Right, but my hope is that these guys eventually start playing to their potential and JJ has plenty of that.

Thing is, not one single player is playing close to what their stats were last year, and in the case of the freshmen, if all the veterans are struggling, we can assume the freshmen aren’t playing well either.

I really think we need to wait until the offense is fixed before we judge these players. This offense has absolutely zero identity, so it makes sense that the players are struggling.
Jasper and Mareno have plenty of talent for sure. And Oweh my God, he was 10 times better last year. How in the world could is be this bad? But it’s weird because they don’t look like they can really improve much. It almost looks like it who they are. You can always see it when a player has talent but hasn’t put it together. Like JJ. But I don’t see that anywhere but with the 2 I mentioned. Maybe MO.

It honestly looks like a bunch of guys who couldn’t care less.
 
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kyjeff1

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Jasper and Mareno have plenty of talent for sure. And Oweh my God, he was 10 times better last year. How in the world could is be this bad? But it’s weird because they don’t look like they can really improve much. It almost looks like it who they are. You can always see it when a player has talent but hasn’t put it together. Like JJ. But I don’t see that anywhere but with the 2 I mentioned. Maybe MO.

It honestly looks like a bunch of guys who couldn’t care less.
Yeah, thank God we have a good defense and Mo came back, because something crazy happens when our guys come down on offense.
I am amazed at how dysfunctional and lost we are on offense. But, here's the good news, we can only go up from here, our offense can't actually be any worse. It’s not possible.
I have no idea what offense Pope is trying to run and why he is not using a big to run the offense from the top. That worked great last year and he had all summer to replicate it with the guys we have
Honestly, this team may not be the most talented team in the country, but they are far too talented to look like this all year. Eventually they are going to get it figured out, I just hope it's soon.
 
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WallMash

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Pope has been searching clueless and mystified for a team that works. All I know is Garrison, Kam, Mo, Lowe, Oweh got us a run in the second half that won the game. I would play those guys 33 minutes a game, and try to groove them. we are not an outside shooting team, Pope should coach a defense first, athletic, quick, down hill, rebounding team.
 

gonefishin

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I love Lowe’s game. I understand the original post as I thought he forced some shots, but watching him out there shows the true difference between a natural pt guard (Lowe) and a combo guard (Aberdeen) being forced to play pt guard.
Lowe will adjust his game as he plays more, and I think Aberdeen will score more while being more efficient being able to play off the ball. That is where I think he will thrive.
Oweh played like the Oweh of last season.
Mo, if he stays in his lane (no 3’s and dominates the paint) will thrive. Love his D and attack on the glass. Think that will only go up with a healthy JQ next to him out there.

Lowe is so fast and pushes the ball, which is not only what we need, but changes our offense.
Oweh and Aberdeen getting and running and being finishers is where they are at their best.

I am feeling more optimistic after watching that last 16 min and how they ramped up on D and had a better offensive flow.
Now, just need to see JQ in the mix.😁😁
 
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Catsfan2025

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What a stupid remark by the OP. Yeah, rather than drive it to the gal and getting better looks, higher % shots or maybe get to the line, he should have kicked it out and let Chandler or Noah brick another 3. Obviously the OP hasn't been watching this team. Without Lowe, the offense is stagnant and ends with someone taking a very low % shot. The key to winning is getting the best looks / highest % shot, not a 3 point shooting contest. Some of you play too many video games.
 

Crestcat

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Lowe is the only pg we have, no one is close. No one comes close to running the offense from the top like Williams did.
We have had no semblance of an offense. We can out talent the cupcakes so we get good shots, we don't get those shots against good teams so the shooting is poor.
You have to have all of the ingredients in the sauce and let it cook.
Basketball is a planned game and a reactive game, that requires playing together learning each other. This team has not had that opportunity.
 

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Our offense obviously runs a lot smoother when he’s out there. Not trying to sound negative, but I certainly hope he can stay healthy. I feel it’s only a matter of time before he tears his shoulder even further and our offense is in another tail-spin