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But the difference is North Carolina and UK are pretty evenly matched,flawed teams and yes I feel it was effort that made us get outrebounded. Outside of Wilson their talent level is not better.

Evenly matched? Yes. But looking at individual categories they rebound 38% of their misses on the season.

That's good for 29th nationally.

So UNC probably not the greatest team in the world this season but a very good offensive rebounding team.
 

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Evenly matched? Yes. But looking at individual categories they rebound 38% of their misses on the season.

That's good for 29th nationally.

So UNC probably not the greatest team in the world this season but a very good offensive rebounding team.
Well they sure fought for rebounds and landed on the ground for them while guys like Oweh stood around watching too many times to count. This team can be very selfish and lazy at times and that's on Pope to clean up.
 
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Evenly matched? Yes. But looking at individual categories they rebound 38% of their misses on the season.

That's good for 29th nationally.

So UNC probably not the greatest team in the world this season but a very good offensive rebounding team.
The issue cornbread won’t acknowledge is we probably don’t get beat on the boards like that if we weren’t missing our most valuable rebounder who happens to play the same position as their most valuable rebounder. We could play UNC 35 times and Caleb Wilson is going to outrebound Kam and Jelly probably 30-35 times. It has nothing to do with “trying harder”. I really wish fans were either more educated or honest and I’m not assessing whether the issue is dishonesty or lack of knowledge but it really gets to be infuriating when you can’t have an honest discussion about anything on here.
 
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The issue cornbread won’t acknowledge is we probably don’t get beat on the boards like that if we weren’t missing our most valuable rebounder who happens to play the same position as their most valuable rebounder. We could play UNC 35 times and Caleb Wilson is going to outrebound Kam and Jelly probably 30-35 times. It has nothing to do with “trying harder”. I really wish fans were either more educated or honest and I’m not assessing whether the issue is dishonesty or lack of knowledge but it really gets to be infuriating when you can’t have an honest discussion about anything on here.

This is why as frustrating as this season has been it's hard for me to really gauge what this team is until we are at full strength. JQ is a game changer.

And yeah Lowe isn't a great shooter but sometimes teams just play better with certain guys in. It reminds me of Lamont Butler the difference when he was in games vs not in games. We have no idea what kind of effect having Lowe out there will do.
 

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This is why as frustrating as this season has been it's hard for me to really gauge what this team is until we are at full strength. JQ is a game changer.

And yeah Lowe isn't a great shooter but sometimes teams just play better with certain guys in. It reminds me of Lamont Butler the difference when he was in games vs not in games. We have no idea what kind of effect having Lowe out there will do.
Agree. I don't know how much Kriisa could have helped last season if he hadn't got injured - although I know he could have at least got the ball up the court and handled the ball in the half-court without having to dribble with his back to the defender - but once Butler got injured (and having no backup/Kriisa) that team was playing with smoke and mirrors. It was obviously better when Butler came back and basically played with one-arm, but the team was not close to the team with a healthy Butler.
 
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Agree. I don't know how much Kriisa could have helped last season if he hadn't got injured - although I know he could have at least got the ball up the court and handled the ball in the half-court without having to dribble with his back to the defender - but once Butler got injured (and having no backup/Kriisa) that team was playing with smoke and mirrors. It was obviously better when Butler came back and basically played with one-arm, but the team was not close to the team with a healthy Butler.

Yep. Especially the PG position. Its essential to have a good PG.
 
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Maybe we dont make Lowe a "full contact" participant in friday.. you know, on the account that the last time he did this he got injured lol. Id give him the red-jersey treatment just so he doesnt take contact and just run him through drills, shootarounds and strategies
 
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I was really high on Lewis as PG2 this season and PG1 his sophomore season. I didn't and still don't want an OAD freshman PG, but sign me up for a really talented freshman muti-year PG.
I'll gladly take a OAD point guard that's elite level. Put someone like Acuff, Thomas or Brown on this team and half our problems are solved.
 
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I'll gladly take a OAD point guard that's elite level. Put someone like Acuff, Thomas or Brown on this team and half our problems are solved.
Well anything is better than the PG situation we have now. But Acuff and Thomas are guys that you lose with. They make negative selfish plays - especially when it matters most. Great talents, will be good players (most likely in the NBA later if they're OAD or die) and make some tough shots, but not guys you can win a title with as freshmen. I'll give you Brown. He's a good one with some good upperclassmen around him to shoulder the load when it gets real I think he would work.
 

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Well anything is better than the PG situation we have now. But Acuff and Thomas are guys that you lose with. They make negative selfish plays - especially when it matters most. Great talents, will be good players (most likely in the NBA later if they're OAD or die) and make some tough shots, but not guys you can win a title with as freshmen. I'll give you Brown. He's a good one with some good upperclassmen around him to shoulder the load when it gets real I think he would work.
You can win titles with any of the 3 if you know how to coach them. Uconn just won one with Castle who was an elite OAD guard.
 

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False. There are teams that spend significant amounts of time working on rebounding. Effort is important but let’s put you up against Dennis Rodman in the post and see how many rebounds your effort gets you.

Here’s an AI answer for you:


Intensity and effort are crucial, but
rebounding is a complex blend of mindset, fundamental techniques, anticipation, and physical attributes. While many coaches emphasize that "rebounding is about heart, not height," skill and strategy are essential for consistent success.

No coach worth more than $1 would ever say something as stupid as rebounding is just about effort and intensity. That’s just hogwash.
Rodman worked harder than anyone. He had an instinctive talent for rebounding. But he didn’t rely on that. He worked too.

He studied like crazy too.

Offensive rebounding takes talent. Defensive does too but you can learn to defensive rebound with technique and learned skill.

We have either had a season+ of guys too dumb to learn or no one teaching them.

Looks like the latter.
 
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Rodman worked harder than anyone. He had an instinctive talent for rebounding. But he didn’t rely on that. He worked too.

He studied like crazy too.

Offensive rebounding takes talent. Defensive does too but you can learn to defensive rebound with technique and learned skill.

We have either had a season+ of guys too dumb to learn or no one teaching them.

Looks like the latter.
I don’t think we are a bad rebounding team with our full lineup, but that remains to be seen. As much as Mo drives me insane, he’s an elite rebounder and so is JQ. Also, I’ll never chalk rebounding to stupidity. Sometimes athleticism is a big factor there. Love or hate Calipari, most of his teams were excellent on the boards because of supreme athleticism. It doesn’t mean it’s 1 to 1 and every athlete is a great rebounder, but a lot of boards in the modern game are long rebounds. Rebounding out of your area is a lot easier when you are strong, quick and have the stamina. I’m doing a deep dive in another thread detailing each play that UNC grabbed an offensive rebound. I included timestamps so that you can review each one and come to your own conclusions.
 

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Pilgram said he got thru practice without setbacks so I'm assuming he plays some against Gonzaga (fingers crossed).
 
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This is also my concern. I’m not sure we’ve been given an exact diagnosis on him, but the reports of him getting re-injured at practice mentioned that the shoulder was “popped back in” after it happened or something to that effect, which sounds like a dislocation to me. That kind of injury actually destabilizes the joint and makes it to where it takes less force to happen again than it did in the first place. It can also take months to heal even if you manage to avoid surgery.

It’s no fault of Lowe’s that this happened, but it’s unfortunately something that’s likely going to hang over him all season even if he is able to give it a go at playing some games.
Gonna guess he needs some type of surgical repair, but is trying to see if he can play through it and get it fixed in the off season. Have to think if he goes down again, they just shut him down and get it fixed properly and try to ready him for next season. See if he can get a medical redshirt year.
 

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I would not expect Lowe to play tonight. If he does, it would probably just be for a few (<10) minutes.
 
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You can win titles with any of the 3 if you know how to coach them. Uconn just won one with Castle who was an elite OAD guard.
Castle was the 5th option for UCONN most of the year. He wasn't the "stud" he was a role player for a team of upperclassmen. He did get better playing within their system as the year went on, as a good freshman with playing time should.
 
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Ike is probably gonna fold Lowe over like a cheap lawn chair the first time he switches on him. That'll be all she wrote. The refs do not call it square at all. Our players get wailed on all game.
 

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Castle was the 5th option for UCONN most of the year. He wasn't the "stud" he was a role player for a team of upperclassmen. He did get better playing within their system as the year went on, as a good freshman with playing time should.
Lol, he was starter who averaged 4th in MPG. In the F4, he scored 21 and 15 respectively.

Also, he was the Big East freshman of the year.

I would say he was a pretty important player for them and was certainly a stud when it mattered.
 
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Castle was the 5th option for UCONN most of the year. He wasn't the "stud" he was a role player for a team of upperclassmen. He did get better playing within their system as the year went on, as a good freshman with playing time should.
Anthony Davis scored 6 points in the 2012 title game. Also took the 5th most shots on the team. Not a stud.
 
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Lol, he was starter who averaged 4th in MPG. In the F4, he scored 21 and 15 respectively.

Also, he was the Big East freshman of the year.

I would say he was a pretty important player for them and was certainly a stud when it mattered.
And despite the minutes Castle was 5th in points (barely double digits) while shooting a not good 25% from the perimeter. He did finish well, but he had some bad/non-existent games throughout the year – as freshmen do. If Castle had been the “stud” UCONN relied on they would have never made it near the finals. That doesn't mean he wasn't a good freshman player. He was one of the best freshmen that year, but the point is that even though he was one of the best "freshman" players he wasn't - as is generally the case with freshmen - one of the best college players that year. But he was used correctly by UCONN, since their goal was to win a championship, not a recruiting title and bragging rights about draft board projection.
 
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And despite the minutes Castle was 5th in points (barely double digits) while shooting a not good 25% from the perimeter. He did finish well, but he had some bad/non-existent games throughout the year – as freshmen do. If Castle had been the “stud” UCONN relied on they would have never made it near the finals. That doesn't mean he wasn't a good freshman player. He was one of the best freshmen that year, but the point is that even though he was one of the best "freshman" players he wasn't - as is generally the case with freshmen - one of the best college players that year. But he was used correctly by UCONN, since their goal was to win a championship, not a recruiting title and bragging rights about draft board projection.
I mean, Big east Freshman of the year, arguably Uconns best player in the F4 and championship. Was so good Hurley played him 4th total minutes. I would certainly say he was one of the better players nationally. Also good enough he was drafted 4th overall, ahead of his teammates and all college players except Reed Sheppard.

If he was all UConn relied on, sure, but he certainly was a major factor in their 2nd title and no guarantees they win it without him.