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Foronce

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MSU is the only team in the nation to face 3 BCS Teams. Florida, Alabama, Ga Tech :BCS Record 1-1, AL

Clemson has a small argument, but really only faced 2 BCS Teams. Ga Tech twice and TCU :BCS Record 1-1

Also, you may like to know of MSU's 12 opp
10 went bowling
3 bowl teams we beat: Middle Tenn won, Kentucky lost, Mississippi won: 2-1
7 bowl teams we lost to: Florida won, Ga Tech lost, Houston lost, Alabama --, Auburn won, LSU lost, Arkansas won: 3-3, AL

Happy 17ing Hump DAY!
 

dogfan96

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the only ones you can really fault him for are GT and Houston (both of whom we should've beaten).. and Houston wasn't anything special as recently as 2007.. they lost 5 games that year.
 

Foronce

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with indiana (4-8) and Memphis (2-10)

I see 7-5... to a bowl... So I think you can blame LT
 

Agentdog

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I dislike LT as much as next guy. However, State football screwed themselves out of a bowl losing to Houston at home and not making one play vs LSU. If, you can not beat the 2nd place Garbage USA team at home.......then forget it.

Besides, even if Ga Tech is not on the schedule. Do we get a bowl at 6-6 with two wins over cream puffs and the 11th selection in the conference? With the current bowl tie-ins, the bowls would have bumped a CUSA, Sun Belt, or Mid-American team with a better record or selected us over UCLA(6-6) in the DC bowl. I don't see any of that happening.
 

maroonmania

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2009 is in the books. No use beating a dead horse. What I'm interested in is next year's schedule which in the conference gets even tougher with replacing Vandy with Georgia. We go from an SEC team we beat regularly to a conference team that we seem to never beat. In the OOC, we at least get rid of GT but we still have to go TO Houston. I'm just praying that Case Keenum will decide to go pro. With the Ga/Vandy swap out in conference we REALLY need to win ALL of our non-conference games next year to have a shot a decent record. Our first 3 conference games are Aub (with Newton), Georgia and LSU. If we can go 1-2 in that stretch we would probably consider it a success.
 

patdog

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that Houston and GA Tech are going to be better than Indiana and Memphis. Most every year.
 

dogfan96

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but I don't think most would dispute that we should beat Houston much more often than not.. they were an 8-5 team the past 2 seasons and we played them at home. Blaming LT is lame, especially now that the game has been played and we pissed away a game we should've won (with the help of some bad officiating).
 

maroonmania

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them now because they stink. It will be our luck that by the time we get around to playing them they will be the top team in CUSA again.
 

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Foronce said:
MSU is the only team in the nation to face 3 BCS Teams. Florida, Alabama, Ga Tech :BCS Record 1-1, AL

Clemson has a small argument, but really only faced 2 BCS Teams. Ga Tech twice and TCU :BCS Record 1-1

Also, you may like to know of MSU's 12 opp
10 went bowling
3 bowl teams we beat: Middle Tenn won, Kentucky lost, Mississippi won: 2-1
7 bowl teams we lost to: Florida won, Ga Tech lost, Houston lost, Alabama --, Auburn won, LSU lost, Arkansas won: 3-3, AL

Happy 17ing Hump DAY!
that LT had any idea that GA Tech would be that good? I'm not taking up for the guy, I just think it's more likely that he kind of cluelessly wandered through his time here...I just can't give him credit for being smart enough to screw us over on purpose. Maybe that's just me...
 

615dawg

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that prior to the Arkansas game, the New Orleans Bowl was making preparations to boot Middle Tennessee and place a 6-6 MSU team against the C-USA 3rd place team, which turned out to be USM, but at that time could have been ECU or Tulsa.

The NO Bowl is hurting hurting hurting, and screwing the Sun Belt 2nd place team would have been offset by a near sell-out at the Superdome between USM and MSU. They would have likely lost the Sun Belt tie-in at the next negotiation, but you can't get worse than the Sun Belt.
 

RaiderDawg24

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The N.O. Bowl was started by the SB conference, for the SB conference, and its existence is still subsidized by the conference. It is, in fact, the SB conference's bowl game.

It has always had the first pick of SB conference teams and with that tie-in, it must take a SB team. No SEC team can play in the bowl.

Even if the bowl didn't have an automatic tie-in to the SB (which it does), by NCAA rule a bowl cannot take a 6-6 at large team if there are 7-5 or better at large teams. Both MTSU and Troy were 9-3 this year so one of them would have went before a 6-6 SEC team.

This was the first year the NO Bowl didn't have the SB champion playing in it. Once the ACC could not fill its obligations to the GMAC bowl, the Sun Belt cut a deal to get Troy out of the N.O. Bowl and into Mobile, which freed up the spot for MT in the NO Bowl and avoided a Troy-USM rematch.

There was zero chance of a MSU vs. C-USA match up in the NO Bowl.
 

QuaoarsKing

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6-6 Marshall was chosen for that bowl for the final at-large bid after UCLA gambled that Army would lose and chose the Eaglebank, since it had a bigger payout.

At that point, the Pizza Bowl had only Marshall, UL-Lafayette, and UL-Monroe to pick from. I can only assume they would have picked us if they had the chance.