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MAC schools: From big payday beatings to surprising showings

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What’s in the water at Mid-American Conference schools?

This is a Little Five conference below the Conference USA level, more at the Sun Belt altitude.

A conference that plays Power 5 teams for a big payday and a big beating, year after year.

And yet:

Toledo beat SEC’s Arkansas, 16-12.

Toledo beat Big 12 Iowa State, 30-23.

Northern Illinois lost to #1 Ohio State by 7 points in a game that was tied at halftime, shredded Murray State, 57-26, beat UNLV, 38-30.

Bowling Green trounced Big 10 Maryland, 48-27, but lost to fellow conference member Memphis, 44-41.

Western Michigan lost to Big 10 Michigan State -- #2 & #3 nationally -- by 13, 37-24.

Ohio University beat C-USA’s Marshall, 21-10, clobbered Southeastern Louisiana, 35-14, and Idaho, 48-25.

Kent State lost to Big 10 Minnesota by 3 points.

Central Michigan lost to ACC Syracuse by 3 points in overtime, to Big 12 Oklahoma State by 11, 24-13, skewered Monmouth, 31-10.

Buffalo beat Florida Atlantic, 33-15, after losing to Big 10 Penn State, 27-14.

Akron, where 1-victory seasons were the norm before Terry Bowden became its coach, ripped Savannah State, 52-9.
 
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"Akron, where 1-victory seasons were the norm before Terry Bowden became its coach"

lol. Your fact-checking is as bad as your buddy Furfari's

Akron had multiple winning seasons in the decade prior Tubby Bowden arriving...
 
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KeatonsCorner said:
lol. Your fact-checking is as bad as your buddy Furfari's

Akron had multiple winning seasons in the decade prior Tubby Bowden arriving...
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As usual, yours is worse.

Akron had just 3 winning years in the 11 seasons of the 21st century prior to Bowden's arrival, all of them from 2003-2005.

Meanwhile, they were 1-11 back-to-back in the two seasons immediately prior to hiring Bowden...and were in such a sorry state that they went 1-11 again the first year with him.

Inheriting a pair of one-win seasons is a hell of a lot more indicative of where the program was when Bowden took over than a few winning campaigns that occurred seven years before he got there.
 
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I was under the assumption that 3 was multiple

And that 2 years out of a decade was an outlier sample by definition......


If one win seasons were the norm, Akron wouldnt have canned Bowden's predocessor after only 2 years


#basicenglish #basicmath
 
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Not sure really why any one is surprised by the MAC. They have been doing this for years...Especially NIU.

They are way above the Sun Belt...
 
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KeatonsCorner said:
I was under the assumption that 3 was multiple
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Nobody said 3 isn't multiple, but to cite that as "proof" while ignoring their 8 losing seasons in the same timeframe is a deliberate misrepresentation. Of course, that doesn't exactly surprise anyone here. Specious factoids are your only stock in trade.
And that 2 years out of a decade was an outlier sample by definition......
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Sure it was...just like the 3 winning seasons out of 11 was an outlier sample by definition.
If one win seasons were the norm, Akron wouldnt have canned Bowden's predocessor after only 2 years
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It wasn't a historical norm, but (and this is the key point for the benefit of the learning-disabled) it sure as hell had quickly become the new norm at the time Bowden was hired.

In other words, Cuyahoga's statement may have been slightly debatable...while yours was an intentional attempt to mislead.
 
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KeatonsCorner said:
"Akron, where 1-victory seasons were the norm before Terry Bowden became its coach"

lol. Your fact-checking is as bad as your buddy Furfari's

Akron had multiple winning seasons in the decade prior Tubby Bowden arriving...
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Check your own facts. Akron won 3 games in 3 seasons.

3-9 in 2009

1-11 in 2010

1-11 in 2011

1-11 in 2012

6 victories in 4 seasons is not cherrypicking. That's a trend.

in 2013, Terry went 5-7, equaling the victories total in the three seasons combined before he took over.
5-7 again in 2014, again equaling the victories total in the three seasons combined before he took over.
Even someone who doesn't admit they are wrong should admit that Terry had made tremendous strides in a program that was a lost cause for years. Sure, he went 1-11 in first season, but then won 10 games in 2 seasons once he got some of his own recruits into the fold.

It's not Urban Meyers or Nick Saban, but it ain't chopped liver.

 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
What’s in the water at Mid-American Conference schools?

This is a Little Five conference below the Conference USA level, more at the Sun Belt altitude.

A conference that plays Power 5 teams for a big payday and a big beating, year after year.

And yet:

Toledo beat SEC’s Arkansas, 16-12.

Toledo beat Big 12 Iowa State, 30-23.

Northern Illinois lost to #1 Ohio State by 7 points in a game that was tied at halftime, shredded Murray State, 57-26, beat UNLV, 38-30.

Bowling Green trounced Big 10 Maryland, 48-27, but lost to fellow conference member Memphis, 44-41.

Western Michigan lost to Big 10 Michigan State -- #2 & #3 nationally -- by 13, 37-24.

Ohio University beat C-USA’s Marshall, 21-10, clobbered Southeastern Louisiana, 35-14, and Idaho, 48-25.

Kent State lost to Big 10 Minnesota by 3 points.

Central Michigan lost to ACC Syracuse by 3 points in overtime, to Big 12 Oklahoma State by 11, 24-13, skewered Monmouth, 31-10.

Buffalo beat Florida Atlantic, 33-15, after losing to Big 10 Penn State, 27-14.

Akron, where 1-victory seasons were the norm before Terry Bowden became its coach, ripped Savannah State, 52-9.
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I think you answered your own question. The MAC is actually better than C-USA, both in prestige and in quality.
 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
Check your own facts. Akron won 3 games in 3 seasons.

3-9 in 2009

1-11 in 2010

1-11 in 2011

1-11 in 2012

6 victories in 4 seasons is not cherrypicking. That's a trend.

in 2013, Terry went 5-7, equaling the victories total in the three seasons combined before he took over.
5-7 again in 2014, again equaling the victories total in the three seasons combined before he took over.
Even someone who doesn't admit they are wrong should admit that Terry had made tremendous strides in a program that was a lost cause for years. Sure, he went 1-11 in first season, but then won 10 games in 2 seasons once he got some of his own recruits into the fold.

It's not Urban Meyers or Nick Saban, but it ain't chopped liver.
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"ain't chopped liver" ... I haven't heard that term since in worked in New York and heard a disgusting individual from Brooklyn using it. Thanks for the memory.
 
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