Major issues with O.C. McDaniel's play calling!!!!!

[MikeRU1766]

I cannot take it with Ben McDaniel's.

To go from the beautiful, creative, and fresh play calling of the Fridge last year to McDaniel's stiff play calling makes watching even more difficult to take because the Fridge was such a master of taking enough shots during the game to keep the defense on it toes and guessing.

This season there are too many issues with McDaniel's play calling for one thread so I am only going to discuss 3 "holes" that have really bother me.

First, what happened to using our TE's in our passing game? In the first couple of games we were constantly running 5 yard curls or 5 yards out patterns and hitting the TE's for some nice, safe gainers. We even scored some TD's using these plays... so what is going on?! Why are we no longer targeting the TE's like we did in the beginning of the season?

Second, this point has been brought up before but needs to be brought up again. We need to continue to be creative to get the ball into Janarion Grant's hands! Why not throw a quick little bubble screen ON 1ST DOWN for once? This would solve 2 problems at once because it would get Grant the ball AND it would do something other than just run for 2 yards on first down. And this will keep the defenses from just stacking the dang box! So yes we need Jet Sweeps, we need Bubble Screens, we need Trips formation with Grant running a quick slant underneath the trips, and any other strategy a Division 1 Offensive Coordinator should know about to get the ball in his playmaker's hands!!!

Third, why do we seem to RARELY pass to our RB's? I feel like we either hand it off to them or we keep them in to block. I can't remember the last time I saw a play action to Hicks where he then runs a quick little 3 yard out and we hit him and he tries to make some moves after the catch. I feel like ALL 4 of our RB's would be excellent at this because they all seem to be able to make that first tackler miss when they are running and when you are receiver.... if you can make that first person miss that usually means you now have a big play ahead of you.

So please I must be missing something as to why we have these GAPING holes in our playcalling. Please somebody explain to me why we do not ever check down to our RB's, or why we don't use our TE's anymore in the pass game, or why we literally can't seem to get the ball into Grant's hands unless it is being kicked to him. I need answers and I need them ASAP because I literally cannot watch another game with this kind of play calling !!!!!!

 

[PhDKnight]

RF is one of the better offensive minds of football the last 30 years. He would not have taken the job if he was going to acquiesce to HCKF'S game planning. He also had a senior QB that could make all the throws to work with.

BM is just happy to have the job and is doing what he is told by HC KF. He also has a young noodle armed QB with poor mechanics to work with. It's just that simple.

 

[RealityChech2]

RF is one of the better offensive minds of football the last 30 years. He would not have taken the job if he was going to acquiesce to HCKF'S game planning. He also had a senior QB that could make all the throws to work with.

BM is just happy to have the job and is doing what he is told by HC KF. He also has a young noodle armed QB with poor mechanics to work with. It's just that simple.

Do you really think Flood is making the decision to run this putrid offense and calls these plays? He let Fridge create his offense and he did the same with Mcdaniels. All the coaches including Campanelli and Wilson have input into the offense but it is Mcdaniels who calls the plays and designs the plays. But for Flood not to tell Mcdaniels to open up the offense and be more creative is definitely on Flood. He hired Mcdaniels so he has to accept the blame.

To have 2TEs and 1 FB in on 90% of the plays is just sheer stupidity! you are limiting the types of play you can run and there are no surprises for the defense. What happened to the plays we had last year is puzzling.

 

[MoobyCow]

To have 2TEs and 1 FB in an 90% of the plays is just sheer stupidity! you are limiting the types of play you can run and there are no surprised for the defense. What happened to the plays we had last year is puzzling.

Especially when none of them can block. We don't have the personnel to run what we're trying to run. The OL is finally good enough but we have galing holes at TE and FB.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I cannot take it with Ben McDaniel's.

To go from the beautiful, creative, and fresh play calling of the Fridge last year to McDaniel's stiff play calling makes watching even more difficult to take because the Fridge was such a master of taking enough shots during the game to keep the defense on it toes and guessing.

This season there are too many issues with McDaniel's play calling for one thread so I am only going to discuss 3 "holes" that have really bother me.

First, what happened to using our TE's in our passing game? In the first couple of games we were constantly running 5 yard curls or 5 yards out patterns and hitting the TE's for some nice, safe gainers. We even scored some TD's using these plays... so what is going on?! Why are we no longer targeting the TE's like we did in the beginning of the season?

Second, this point has been brought up before but needs to be brought up again. We need to continue to be creative to get the ball into Janarion Grant's hands! Why not throw a quick little bubble screen ON 1ST DOWN for once? This would solve 2 problems at once because it would get Grant the ball AND it would do something other than just run for 2 yards on first down. And this will keep the defenses from just stacking the dang box! So yes we need Jet Sweeps, we need Bubble Screens, we need Trips formation with Grant running a quick slant underneath the trips, and any other strategy a Division 1 Offensive Coordinator should know about to get the ball in his playmaker's hands!!!

Third, why do we seem to RARELY pass to our RB's? I feel like we either hand it off to them or we keep them in to block. I can't remember the last time I saw a play action to Hicks where he then runs a quick little 3 yard out and we hit him and he tries to make some moves after the catch. I feel like ALL 4 of our RB's would be excellent at this because they all seem to be able to make that first tackler miss when they are running and when you are receiver.... if you can make that first person miss that usually means you now have a big play ahead of you.

So please I must be missing something as to why we have these GAPING holes in our playcalling. Please somebody explain to me why we do not ever check down to our RB's, or why we don't use our TE's anymore in the pass game, or why we literally can't seem to get the ball into Grant's hands unless it is being kicked to him. I need answers and I need them ASAP because I literally cannot watch another game with this kind of play calling !!!!!!

Mike

Fridge came on board with understanding he was going to do what needed to be done and flood was hands off

McDaniel does not have that privledge and you see the net result

Ron prince has similar issues in 2013

 

[Jtung230]

You think McDaniels is saying lets bully OSU and Wisconsin? Now, who you think thinks or talks like that?

 

[DocRU]

The playcalling shows absolutely no confidence in the QB. Its unwatchable.

 

[ScarletDave]

(1) run up the middle

2nd and 9

(2) run up the middle

3rd and 7

(3) pass, but don't block the blitz, or throw it into the ground 3 yards in front of the line of scrimmage

4th and 7

 

[zappaa]

Inside info.
Fridge warned KF against appointing McDaniels OC.
That is all!

 

[Roy_Faulker]

I know Rettig has come in at garbage time but when he does come in he's in shotgun and there are more than 2 WRs on the field.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Especially when none of them can block. We don't have the personnel to run what we're trying to run. The OL is finally good enough but we have galing holes at TE and FB.

The OL has been good enough against bad defenses. They've been over matched against the better defenses they've faced, with the exception of MSU. That was the best game they played all year.

 

[MoobyCow]

The OL has been good enough against bad defenses. They've been over matched against the better defenses they've faced, with the exception of MSU. That was the best game they played all year.

Most of the pressure is coming when teams send extra players because the OL has no help. They aren't great, bur they're OK. Problem is the TEs and FB are abysmal so it doesn't matter.

 

[MoobyCow]

Inside info.
Fridge warned KF against appointing McDaniels OC.
That is all!

Interesting.

 

[Kbee3]

Inside info.
Fridge warned KF against appointing McDaniels OC.
That is all!

I saw very little on Saturday to indicate that we have any co-ordination on offense.
It may have been the worst play calling I've ever seen

 

[DHajekRC84]

Horrible and un-watchable.

 

[kupuna133]

Inside info.
Fridge warned KF against appointing McDaniels OC.
That is all!

Heard something very similar. Also heard Fridge would have been back this year if he was given complete control of offense. Down to hiring "proper personnel"

 

[biazza38]

Rettig has a great arm. Get rid of Flood and let Rettig grow into the position. We still have him for two more years if Flood doesn't completely screw up and watch Rettig transfer. It's not even close which QB has more upside. Even if Rettig were to start next game (which he won't) nothing will change with Flood at the helm. He has zero feel for the game. We have the same bs offensive game plan for every game. Fridge took complete control of the situation and ran things differently. But other than Fridge's one year, the other 3 years under Flood have been the same

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Fridge was one and done as far as playcalling. Had to be a reason for that. If Nova were more accurate.. more consistent.. more patient in the face of a rush and throwing the ball knowing he'd get hit.. last year might have been special.

We need a genius OC as head coach.

What top offensive recruit wants to play in this offense? Its like a guy trying to get dates by advertising he can make it rain with Burger King gift cards.

 

[zappaa]

Heard something very similar. Also heard Fridge would have been back this year if he was given complete control of offense. Down to hiring "proper personnel"

BINGO, almost.
He would have stayed and been a contributer and consultant

 

[kupuna133]

BINGO, almost.
He would have stayed and been a contributer and consultant

Exactly. Heard he would have come back if given complete control. When that was not issued Fridge left the door open for consultancy if he had a choice in the decision of who would be the playcaller. When that didn't work out he honored the contract to the absolute minimum and walked away.

 

[RUtrumpet92_rivals498139]

Its like a guy trying to get dates by advertising he can make it rain with Burger King gift cards.

The Burger King of Sandy Hook?

I was wondering where our TEs have gone in the passing game. Very few catches by them the last few weeks. It is strange. Also, I think the deepest throw Laviano attempted yesterday was the wheel route INT intended for James out of the backfield. The only other time he threw it 10+ yards that I can remember was an out to Patton.

It was so sad to watch the number of runs into the line on 1st and 2nd down yesterday.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Exactly. Heard he would have come back if given complete control. When that was not issued Fridge left the door open for consultancy if he had a choice in the decision of who would be the playcaller. When that didn't work out he honored the contract to the absolute minimum and walked away.

That's amazing 'if true'. Are you telling us that an offensive genius like Fridge wanted complete control of the offense and OL coach Flood said NO ???

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

I don't know why Flood wouldn't give total control of the offense to Friedgen, who was not only a successful OC at the pro level, but a successful head coach at the college level as well. None of the other coaches Flood has brought in here is nearly as accomplished. If this is truly the mentality we're dealing with, this program is doomed to doormat status in this conference.

 

[cRURah]

That's amazing 'if true'. Are you telling us that an offensive genius like Fridge wanted complete control of the offense and OL coach Flood said NO ???

For those posters who are so convinced that Laviano was also RF's choice as starting QB, this has to make you question that line of thinking.

 

[kapyoche]

Why doesn't call his brother for help during the game? Is that considered an NCAA violation?

 

[KnightInVA23]

The Burger King of Sandy Hook?

I was wondering where our TEs have gone in the passing game. Very few catches by them the last few weeks. It is strange. Also, I think the deepest throw Laviano attempted yesterday was the wheel route INT intended for James out of the backfield. The only other time he threw it 10+ yards that I can remember was an out to Patton.

It was so sad to watch the number of runs into the line on 1st and 2nd down yesterday.

You won't see TE's unless Caroo is in and running deep. Otherwise it will continue to be 10 men in the box, clogging up the middle where the TE's thrive and daring CL to throw sideline routes.

 

[kupuna133]

That's amazing 'if true'. Are you telling us that an offensive genius like Fridge wanted complete control of the offense and OL coach Flood said NO ???

It's true was hamstrung last year in many decisions. Didn't need the aggravation and walked

 

[RU MAN]

RF is one of the better offensive minds of football the last 30 years. He would not have taken the job if he was going to acquiesce to HCKF'S game planning. He also had a senior QB that could make all the throws to work with.

BM is just happy to have the job and is doing what he is told by HC KF. He also has a young noodle armed QB with poor mechanics to work with. It's just that simple.

I couldn't agree more. The garbage we're seeing out there is our illustrious HC telling McDaniels, to RUN, RUN, PASS and then Flood wonders why we don't go 1-0 (I hate that line). Flood wouldn't dare tell Fridge how to run HIS offense. What we're seeing here is a young and talented playcaller being held back by his inept HC.

 

[Extra Point_rivals157299]

BINGO, almost.
He would have stayed and been a contributer and consultant

Makes no sense. Wasn't it Flood who tried to get Friedgen in 2013 and he said no and Flood tried again last year and Fridge said yes? At the time I thought Flood wanted him here real bad, and I thought that Fridge left because his health wouldn't let him get up early and be 100% in.

 

[RU MAN]

Makes no sense. Wasn't it Flood who tried to get Friedgen in 2013 and he said no and Flood tried again last year and Fridge said yes? At the time I thought Flood wanted him here real bad, and I thought that Fridge left because his health wouldn't let him get up early and be 100% in.

If I recall correctly it was Julie Hermann getting Fridge on board not Flood.

 

[kupuna133]

Makes no sense. Wasn't it Flood who tried to get Friedgen in 2013 and he said no and Flood tried again last year and Fridge said yes? At the time I thought Flood wanted him here real bad, and I thought that Fridge left because his health wouldn't let him get up early and be 100% in.

What about Flood and any decision you have heard or seen him make makes sense? Did you ever have a boss that recruits you to a new position by promising you total control then once on board changes course and wants a say and input?

 

[zappaa]

Makes no sense. Wasn't it Flood who tried to get Friedgen in 2013 and he said no and Flood tried again last year and Fridge said yes? At the time I thought Flood wanted him here real bad, and I thought that Fridge left because his health wouldn't let him get up early and be 100% in.

Which is why he would have stayed on as a consultant if a certain 6-8 400 pound man with play calling experiece was named OC...HCKF decided against it and RF said see ya

 

[Extra Point_rivals157299]

Which is why he would have stayed on as a consultant if a certain 6-8 400 pound man with play calling experiece was named OC...HCKF decided against it and RF said see ya

Maybe Flood thought that the players would starve if he hired a 6'8" 400 pound man.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Gotta wonder:

Aside from the "off field" stuff - where we KNOW Flood isn't an "micro-manager" (although he is definitely "egotistical") - is Flood as "micro" and "stubborn" as GS, with on-field stuff, the last few years?

 

[Metropolitans3]

I don't think the play calling has been awful. If there were some deep throws mixed in, i think our play calling would be fairly good. But it's clear the deep ball is limited with Laviano and even less frequent with carroo out.

Btw, full disclosure... I'm sick of what I've been seeing, want rettig to start, and have finally decided I want flood gone.

 

[RUMountie]

I cannot take it with Ben McDaniel's.

To go from the beautiful, creative, and fresh play calling of the Fridge last year to McDaniel's stiff play calling makes watching even more difficult to take because the Fridge was such a master of taking enough shots during the game to keep the defense on it toes and guessing.

This season there are too many issues with McDaniel's play calling for one thread so I am only going to discuss 3 "holes" that have really bother me.

First, what happened to using our TE's in our passing game? In the first couple of games we were constantly running 5 yard curls or 5 yards out patterns and hitting the TE's for some nice, safe gainers. We even scored some TD's using these plays... so what is going on?! Why are we no longer targeting the TE's like we did in the beginning of the season?

Second, this point has been brought up before but needs to be brought up again. We need to continue to be creative to get the ball into Janarion Grant's hands! Why not throw a quick little bubble screen ON 1ST DOWN for once? This would solve 2 problems at once because it would get Grant the ball AND it would do something other than just run for 2 yards on first down. And this will keep the defenses from just stacking the dang box! So yes we need Jet Sweeps, we need Bubble Screens, we need Trips formation with Grant running a quick slant underneath the trips, and any other strategy a Division 1 Offensive Coordinator should know about to get the ball in his playmaker's hands!!!

Third, why do we seem to RARELY pass to our RB's? I feel like we either hand it off to them or we keep them in to block. I can't remember the last time I saw a play action to Hicks where he then runs a quick little 3 yard out and we hit him and he tries to make some moves after the catch. I feel like ALL 4 of our RB's would be excellent at this because they all seem to be able to make that first tackler miss when they are running and when you are receiver.... if you can make that first person miss that usually means you now have a big play ahead of you.

So please I must be missing something as to why we have these GAPING holes in our playcalling. Please somebody explain to me why we do not ever check down to our RB's, or why we don't use our TE's anymore in the pass game, or why we literally can't seem to get the ball into Grant's hands unless it is being kicked to him. I need answers and I need them ASAP because I literally cannot watch another game with this kind of play calling !!!!!!

Agreed. What happened to the tight ends and fullback in the flat?
RU did try a bubble screen on the first offensive series but Laviano threw an inaccurate pass and it screwed up the timing (not sure if it was to Grant) thus the result was little or no gain. That play has to be executed very crisply to be effective. Another problem with our passing game is the "broken play" drill. Our receivers absolutely suck at getting open when the plan breaks down. Receivers running vertical routes are supposed to cut across the field and vice versa as soon as the QB starts to scramble. Also receivers are supposed to move in the direction of the QB's scramble. We almost never complete passes on these types of plays which is a shame since Laviano is pretty good at scrambling. It seems like our receivers don't know what to do to get open and/or Laviano has trouble locating them and getting it to the open receivers.

 

[Plum Street]

All these clowns that say fridge would have come back if he was given complete control . How come you clowns didn't say anything like this when fridge decided to step down ? Gotta love these message boards

 

[zappaa]

All these clowns that say fridge would have come back if he was given complete control . How come you clowns didn't say anything like this when fridge decided to step down ? Gotta love these message boards

Interesting way to ask a question on the board.

 

[kupuna133]

All these clowns that say fridge would have come back if he was given complete control . How come you clowns didn't say anything like this when fridge decided to step down ? Gotta love these message boards

Wow aren't you pleasant. Well this clown has three reasons why I did not say anything when Fridge decided to step down.

1) Flood and co. were and still are sticking to "fridge is still an advisor" mantra. Which is not true
2) I did not happen to meet up with the person who told me until August. (person was on his staff at Maryland) Met up at a birthday party. Guess the person should have been born earlier. Would have had the info more timely for you.
3)Was not a poster on this site until July.

I did post Fridge info on more than one occasion you just decided not to listen..

 

[MoobyCow]

Heard something very similar. Also heard Fridge would have been back this year if he was given complete control of offense. Down to hiring "proper personnel"

Wow. I have no idea of this is accurate, but I have always thought Flood exerted more control over the game planning than most people said, just because it has been so damn similar on both sides of the ball across multiple coordinators.