Malik is coming back

dawgstudent

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Jeff Goodman is saying the options are "potentially transferring". That gets dawgstudent upset if he does this.
 

engie

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Zagoria is saying Horatio is telling him, "as far as I know, he's going back to Mississippi State".

Seems like gamesmanship to be sure all minds are at ease for another 12 months IMO.
 

wtw2400

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Jeff Goodman is saying the options are "potentially transferring". That gets dawgstudent upset if he does this.

In calling BS on that. This is the same guy that said MSU wouldve won games that Howland lost with Rick Ray. Why would he transfer when he sits out a year? That kind of makes no sense. Unless the whole IJ Ready thing isnt as overblown as I thought it was.
 

engie

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This is the same guy that said MSU wouldve won games that Howland lost with Rick Ray.

I wasn't initially recalling this, but do now. Seems like he doubled down on that a bunch of times and was actively pulling for our failure during the season. It's going to be tough for him to put us in consideration for his preseason top 25 next year now**
 

121Josey

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Zagoria is saying Horatio is telling him, "as far as I know, he's going back to Mississippi State".

Seems like gamesmanship to be sure all minds are at ease for another 12 months IMO.

Agreed. But Horatio ain't got no pieces left, so his game is over(played).
 

GOOD_DAWG2.0

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Jeff Goodman is saying the options are "potentially transferring". That gets dawgstudent upset if he does this.

I 17n hate this guy. He's just some bum that never has anything good to say about State. He is always saying things that harm our program's rep
 

121Josey

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John Goodman walking back on his "possibly transferring" comment. Not from Horatio but "multiple sources".
 

GOOD_DAWG2.0

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I realize I just said this, but jeff goodman is a 17n clown. Dude claims he's heard Malik wants to transfer, but the ONLY person quoted by anyone talking about what Malik will do this season (Horatio) isn't his source. Goodman is garbage.
 

engie

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Goodman is not making that up... It has been passed around from "good MSU sources".

People have made mistake after mistake in repeating what "they heard" from Newman's camp, even directly, for a long time now.

The actual actions have been intelligent and deliberate up until this point. Not to say that can't change, but until it does...

The deal is -- Goodman does it for a living -- he should be able to sniff out BS. Unless he's playing a different motive, and given his history, you have to question it.
 
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121Josey

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Zagoria say that there's no athletic scholarship for MN in JUCO. And since there's no other D-1 school where he can get on the court, not much chance of transferring.
 

ckDOG

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If so, GTFO now

Says he will explore other options beside returning to MSU.

What does sitting out and playing another year accomplish aside from easing the thought that Malik's underachieving is his fault? Kid needs to leave and get groomed in the D league or accept some college coaching asap. He has loads of potential but is a tweener for the nba and needs all the coaching and practical experience he can get. Sitting out a year to play in college somewhere else is boneheaded. I don't care what he does bc, frankly, he didn't do **** for us this year and we got some talent coming in. This just stinks of helicopter dad and kid being annointed far too early. Be a bad ***. Or don't. Your choice, AAU all star.
 

engie

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The JUCO deal was a Gary Parrish nugget.

How can guys that do it for a living not realize that the new NCAA rules regarding declaring and coming back didn't change the NJCAA rules regarding the same thing? Just more incompetence trotted out on front street. Good thing Zagoria takes his job seriously*
 

ronpolk

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In calling BS on that. This is the same guy that said MSU wouldve won games that Howland lost with Rick Ray. Why would he transfer when he sits out a year? That kind of makes no sense. Unless the whole IJ Ready thing isnt as overblown as I thought it was.

Goodman's profile pic on Twitter is with Bill Walton who hates Howland.

With that said, I heard Newman was transferring a while back. It does not seem to make sense though.
 

121Josey

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How can guys that do it for a living not realize that the new NCAA rules regarding declaring and coming back didn't change the NJCAA rules regarding the same thing? Just more incompetence trotted out on front street. Good thing Zagoria takes his job seriously*

Zagaria references Moustapha Diagne. That's the point. NJCAA didn't change their rules. That seems to be what you are saying, so I'm understanding your point.
 

She Mate Me

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What does sitting out and playing another year accomplish aside from easing the thought that Malik's underachieving is his fault? Kid needs to leave and get groomed in the D league or accept some college coaching asap. He has loads of potential but is a tweener for the nba and needs all the coaching and practical experience he can get. Sitting out a year to play in college somewhere else is boneheaded. I don't care what he does bc, frankly, he didn't do **** for us this year
and we got some talent coming in. This just stinks of helicopter dad and kid being annointed far too early. Be a bad ***. Or don't. Your choice, AAU all star.

Little rough on the kid but I tend to agree with pretty much everything you wrote. I have also wondered about his academics since one and done was a foregone conclusion. Maybe nothing to worry about, but I can't imagine he was a particularly motivated student.
 

PineGroveBully

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I think he's just a slightly spoiled kid disappointed in his draft stock and is just looking for a little love while he has some leverage. If Haratio has ANY say in the matter he'll be back
 

civildawg88

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I don't get the IJ hate. I was very critical of him all year but the guy won us some games toward the end of the year
 

PineGroveBully

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Shirley he took enough easy online hours to stay eligible to keep his options open unless he was just dead set on entering the draft. One would think Haratio and Howland steered him in that direction. I'm not up on the rules, if he did wind up a few hours short of being eligible is that something he could make up over the summer and regain eligibility?
 

jcdawgman18

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Shirley he took enough easy online hours to stay eligible to keep his options open unless he was just dead set on entering the draft. One would think Haratio and Howland steered him in that direction. I'm not up on the rules, if he did wind up a few hours short of being eligible is that something he could make up over the summer and regain eligibility?
On the Road Dawgs Tour Howland said that he wasn't worried about Malik's academics if he ended up coming back, so there's that. We'll see.
 

aTotal360

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Everything I have heard is that he has taken care of business in the class room.
 

mstateglfr

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Hopefully this means IJ is leaving.

Why on earth do you have such hate for IJ's play?

He has steadily improved his PPG, APG, A/TO ratio, and overall shooting %. He either led the team or has been second each season in steals per game. And he led the team in assists the last 2 seasons.
His role and play isnt just something that would have been replaced had he been benched.


He isnt some pick and roll scoring PG or a high volume shooting PG. Is that why you loathe him being on the team?
 

coach66

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Disagree, IJ started off the season a ball hog and was not good. Once he

started making the extra pass and playing like a point guard I thought he was pretty decent. We got much better.
 
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