Mangino just lost his pass to the training table
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Not sure Mangino lands another D1 coaching gig (head or assistant).
He and Rhoads haven't been on the same page for about a month...the writing was on the wall on this.
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He and Rhoads haven't been on the same page for about a month...the writing was on the wall on this.
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Mangino probably could have had a better job, even after his issues at Kansas, if he'd just lost 30 or 150lbs. I believe with all my heart that weighed (get it?) against him more than his issues at Kansas. He won at freaking Kansas, how is that not awesome? Yes he found lightening in a bottle with Brisco, Reesing, and Talib, but nonetheless, he did what few others have done.
For the record, before somebody corrects me, I thought he lost his weight while at ISU and not before he got that job. Not 100% sure what happened first after I got to thinking about it, so as usual I could be wrong.
He has lost weight (in case you didn't know). While his looks may not have helped, he was fired b/c some fans/boosters thought his discipline approach was harsh (he made a kid crabwalk on the fieldturf during a hot summer day as punishment for breaking rules) and that he wasn't a very good PR rep for the university (he once got tossed out of a local HS game that his kid's was playing in by the refs, rarely did booster events, didn't recruit that hard, etc.).
You are correct that he is the only coach EVER to make KU football even remotely successful. As you likely are aware of too, he's a Youngstown guy...
The way KU handled this was bad and the moves they made afterward (not giving Turner the proper time, then paying Weis huge dough, and now back to a Mangino assistant) aren't showing any positive results either.
You are correct that he is the only coach EVER to make KU football even remotely successful. As you likely are aware of too, he's a Youngstown guy...
The way KU handled this was bad and the moves they made afterward (not giving Turner the proper time, then paying Weis huge dough, and now back to a Mangino assistant) aren't showing any positive results either.
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Turner got more than enough time. Derp derp derp
You can't say BO should have been fired for his jackass ways and then say KU should have kept Mangino. He was far worse than Pelini. Pissing off boosters/admins/your entire staff/etc sealed his fate. Losing 7 in a row with a lot of the same players from the Orange Bowl team as seniors was no accident. The guy had serious issues and it had little to do with crabwalks.
Turner was a disaster and should have got no more time. If it was strictly win-loss record, coaching, etc, he would have had another year or two easy. But those off-field issues could not be ignored.
Turner was a disaster and should have got no more time. If it was strictly win-loss record, coaching, etc, he would have had another year or two easy. But those off-field issues could not be ignored.
So I should just forget about that National Title while Oklahoma's Offensive Coordinator? Any guy that can take Kansas football to the heights that I saw Kansas get to, including winning a BCS bowl against Virginia Tech, has my respect.
I'm wondering if ISU is going to clean house this year. They've been putting the money in for facilities, stadium improvements, etc, and already have a good basketball program. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new coach there next year. Do they spend the money for a semi-splash?
http://big12fanatics.com/big-12-coaches-chances-of-not-returning-to-their-team-in-2016/
As this piece points out, it's highly likely that CPR is gone, unless he can somehow get wins over UT at home, at K-State and knockoff either WVU or oSu. He's not beating OU, which may very well be the best team in the Big 12 right now with the Baylor QB situation.
As this piece points out, it's highly likely that CPR is gone, unless he can somehow get wins over UT at home, at K-State and knockoff either WVU or oSu. He's not beating OU, which may very well be the best team in the Big 12 right now with the Baylor QB situation.
I think the word you are looking for is "standard." Regardless, this would be less painful for you if you would just admit that you didn't know much about Mangino's background before posting what you did about him.
I was talking about ISU's coaching situation with a buddy, and 2 names I wouldn't be surprised to see are Chad Morris, and Dave Christiansen (sp?). I know Morris is still new at SMU and probably out, but D.C. might be a good fit there with his Big12 ties. Although I'm surprised Mizzou hasn't tried to hire him back with their offensive woes.
I don't really understand why Mangino gets so much credit for that 2007 season. They played no one that year. The toughest game they had was against an extremely overrated Mizzou and they lost. But nonetheless he is by far the best coach KU has ever had. Why did they fire him again?
Mangino is the all time winningest coach in KU football history. Glen did well, but Mark holds the top notch. I recall an Aloha bowl being the pinnacle of Mason's coaching tenure at KU...Mangino won an Orange Bowl.
Again, Mark was fired b/c he wasn't very media friendly and had some controversy over coach/player relationships. Personally I wish he wouldn't never been fired as winning football at KU is a rarity.
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Again, Mark was fired b/c he wasn't very media friendly and had some controversy over coach/player relationships. Personally I wish he wouldn't never been fired as winning football at KU is a rarity.
GBR
Did 'we' once again forget about the National Championship as the OC at Oklahoma?
Gene Chizik.
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I have no idea what's going on but I'm laughing. Or as the young'uns say LOL'ing This board has some pretty dudes on it.
Did Gene Chizik not have talent at Auburn? How much talent does KU generally get? Other than Glen Mason and Mangino, no one does anything worth mention at KU.
You're like the guy who buys the lemon and defends it regardless the logic. He was 23-41 in the Big 12; 1-7 his final year. He's a blowhard and nasty dude.
If you knew more about him and his past you would not respect him. Mangino has many skeletons in his closet. The only reason he wasn't in jail was because he was the coach at Kansas at the time. If any of us had similar off field issues we would have spent time behind bars. Not only is he an a$$hole who has a difficult time getting along with people but he also has an explosive temper. His temper has gotten him into many situations that have not been reported by the media. KU did a good job keeping it quiet and out of the press. He was an embarrassment to the program and KU needed to fire him. Yes he could win some games but that was it. His asst coaches did not like him, the players didn't respect him, administration hated dealing with him, AD was embarrassed by his behavior, boosters were concerned about the image of KU....... he was a walking asshat that deserved to be fired. People make fun of Carl Pelini for off field issues, well Mangino's off-field issues are 10 times worse than Carl's. No former Husker Coach has had more off field trouble than Mangino. Think of all the things the former Husker Coaches have been accused of, and they pale in comparison. I would be surprised if any reputable college will give Mangino a job.
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they sound familiar but they don't hold a candle to Mangino when it comes to trouble with the law
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I know plenty about Mangino and his escapades. Way too many of them. Heard the stories from friends who are in the Lawrence Police Department. Also the former Athletic Director Lew Perkins lived 2 houses down from Mangino. So as a neighbor and his boss it is safe to say that Lew knew what was going on in Mangino's life. Plus his Asst Coaches did not like him and if you got to know them they have no problem bashing him after a couple beers. Just saying that there are lots of quality people who are good coaches so there is no need to sell your soul and hire someone like Mangino. I know some really nice people at KU and not one of them has anything good to say about him
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Who said anything about his personal life? It's well known that he was an a-hole. He got kicked out of his son's high school football game for riding the referees hard. Who gets kicked out of a high school football game? But he is a very good coach, and got a lot out of less talent.
Its a flat out shame so many programs suffer so from the immorality of coaches they hire, They are trusted and paid well; its literally crazy, coeds on the backs of motorcycles - holding coeds hands walking on campus. This shows the loss of judgement in public; actual behaviors get very sexist at times and much deeper than that in many cases. Maybe candidates don't get screened well enough; imo better to give younger character guys a shot.