I think the team rankings are stupid. The average star rank is more indicative of how good the class is.
Manuel Allen flips to Louisville per TOS
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Well we know you did follow him at one time, but my bad. I missed where someone else mentioned Bookie tweeting. I thought your comment was the first on Bookie tweeting. Sorry
I don't disagree. But when someone say 18-22 isn't good enough, they need to be made aware of what goes into the rankings.
I have also said for years the overall rankings can be skewed. The rating do not take into account need. That's a huge factor in recruiting.
And since he liked manny's tweet it automatically means he's gone. Derp.
^^This^^
I'll take a class of only 12 recruits that are all 5 stars vs. a class of 25 recruits made up of 1 & 2 stars.
Average star vs. team ranking shows quality of the player compared to just sheer number of players.
Nebraska is at 41st in the team rankings but 15th in the average star rating. Okie lite, Baylor, Va-Tech, UCLA etc. are all in the top 25 team rankings but switch to view to average star and Nebraska is ahead of all of them.
Mike Schaefer@mikejschaefer 1h1 hour ago
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8:20 AM - 18 Aug 2017
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8:20 AM - 18 Aug 2017
Mhm.Mike Schaefer@mikejschaefer 1h1 hour ago
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8:20 AM - 18 Aug 2017
Recruiting, especially reciever, will be fine people.
Coaches allowed him to "decommit". Good luck to him.
Mike Schaefer@mikejschaefer 1h1 hour ago
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8:20 AM - 18 Aug 2017
Are these those crystal ball things?
Well we know you did follow him at one time, but my bad. I missed where someone else mentioned Bookie tweeting. I thought your comment was the first on Bookie tweeting. Sorry
Yeah I followed him for 1 day because I considered him a current player with how much love he showed for the N but then my feed was covered in Florida crap and seeing husker fans say they "love him" was making me sick. But yeah, no worries.
You've been banging that drum for a month now... hard to know if you were being sarcastic or not. My apologies.
If that video was the entirety of the incident, and Allen is the WR in the play, I cannot see that as sufficient to pull a scholarship offer. Guys jostled at the end of the play. DB kept at the receiver well after whistles blew. Should the WR have thrown the ball? Of course not. But relatively mild in the scope of yanking a scholarship. I hope there was either more to it or Allen's involvement was more than show.
Pretty sure the staff gave him a "last chance" after the fight he started before this most recent brawl. Makes sense.
1:18 PM - Aug 18, 2017
OK if this was not incident #1, but was one of those Major League baseball-style Steve Howe second chances, then I would change my opinion.
Sounds like the 7 on 7 fight was the last straw with the staff. Sounds like the issues started when he was on the visit during the spring game. I'm not even sure the Louisville offer is commitable right now.
While this year, which is still young, our average star ranking is way higher than our current team ranking, this theory does not pan out in the Riley era. The theory's assumption would be that at 20/21 scholarships our average star ranking should be higher than the team ranking.
2015: 21 scholarships: Avg star ranking is two spots better than team ranking.
2016: 21 scholarships: Avg star ranking is two spots worse than team ranking.
2017: 20 scholarships: Avg star ranking is one spot worse than team ranking.
But if you add in 4 more 4 star recruits that could be counted, everything looks better, correct?
The point is, everything looks better if you have additional 4 star players counting toward your best 20. Correct?
All I know is it is easier to "win" the recruiting team rankings when you sign 25 guys every single year ('Bama) instead of 20 or 21 (us).
When those 3 stars aren't even added up into your score because you have so damn many 4 and 5 star recruits, it makes your team ranking better.
Although I see 'Bama is ranked 31st right now so that means their dynasty is almost over! lol
When those 3 stars aren't even added up into your score because you have so damn many 4 and 5 star recruits, it makes your team ranking better.
Although I see 'Bama is ranked 31st right now so that means their dynasty is almost over! lol
Well, yes, everything looks better if you have more four star players counting toward your best 20. But that's not the argument.
It is that we should look at star ranking instead of team ranking. That supposedly would be be a better measure and also advantageous to the team that signs 20 versus 25. However, the numbers above show that our star ranking (we sign 20 or 21) on average is a tad bit worse than our team ranking...not the other way around.
No, that's not the argument. When you take 20 (or 21), the star ranking is similar to actual. No surprise there, as you point out. But add in more talent, star ranking increases and actual ranking increases.
But with smaller classes you can't drop any of the recruits. Now moving forward, it appears the huskers may field better classes (average star rankings) even if they don't hit 20 recruits. They are just recruiting better.
But again, Tuco's argument is when you add number of recruits, your ranking is better. Both actual and star ranking wise. Where does Tuco say look at star average over actual ranking? i read what you quoted from him and he doesn't say anything of the sort that you are suggesting.
You are putting words in his mouth that he never spoke.
And what has it gotten us? Oh yeah, like 8 scholarships to hand out to walk-ons tomorrow!
Time to get 25 every year so we can drop some too!
Best way to do that is to cut down on the redshirts... play the freshmen as freshmen and we can recruit higher numbers each year. 85 over 4 years gets you more recruits than over 5 years... Tuco has done a lot of work on this, for which I can't take credit.And what has it gotten us? Oh yeah, like 8 scholarships to hand out to walk-ons tomorrow!
Time to get 25 every year so we can drop some too!
And what has it gotten us? Oh yeah, like 8 scholarships to hand out to walk-ons tomorrow!
Time to get 25 every year so we can drop some too!
If they hand out 8 then you know either Keyshawn Jr isn't coming back or you have a player that isn't coming back, for example Adam Taylor. A scholarship guy that wasn't on the 105 roster.
If you don't redshirt every player you can take more than 25 in some seasons. I would be all for that.
It all goes hand in hand. You have to bring in kids good enough to play right away and let them play. That will lead to upperclassmen that aren't as talented seeing the handwriting on the wall and moving on. But first you have to bring in kids good enough to make an impact right off the bat.