Measles In Clemson and upstate

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My son is in healthcare and he has often said that immigrants welcome every vaccine they can get in the US.
I think vaccine hesitancy is very community based, unfortunately some groups have had very bad experiences to oversimplify it (thinking about the Tuskegee experiments for example and how that’s negatively impacted trust in healthcare within some black communities).

This is such a complicated and nuanced topic, we’re not going to solve it here, unfortunately.
 

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The good news is that the same stable genius appointed Vince McMahon's wife who's never stepped foot in a classroom and whose work history has mostly been covering up her husband's myriad lawsuits as Secretary of Education, so these cabinet members should really be able to help each other get up to speed on all the pertinent issues.
Well that stable genius has a de facto Nobel peace prize, so he can finally set his sights on medical cures and maybe a Nobel in chemistry or biology next.

But in all seriousness, we’re not going to help address this issue by being tribal.

I strongly disagree with some of the stuff I’m reading in this thread, but will always respectfully agree to disagree on complex issues such as vaccine regulations. TBH I personally don’t think it’s that complicated, but this stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum and it’s become complicated imo
 

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The South Carolina measles outbreak has spread to Clemson University.

The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a "confirmed case of measles" in an individual associated with the university, according to an update from the school published Saturday.

"The individual has isolated, per DPH requirements, and DPH is conducting contact tracing with individuals who may have been exposed and outlining isolation and quarantine protocols," the school stated.

MEASLES CASES CONFIRMED AT FOUR MAJOR US AIRPORTS ACROSS COUNTRY AMID PEAK HOLIDAY TRAVEL

Individuals thought to be exposed to the virus will be contacted via email about quarantining.

Officials are reporting 558 cases of measles centered around Spartanburg County in the current outbreak.

Clemson University measles outbreak

The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a confirmed case of measles in an individual associated with the university. (iStock)
Some cases are travel-related exposures or close contacts with known cases, according to the DPH.

Other cases have no identified source, suggesting that measles is circulating in the community and could spread further.

LARGEST MEASLES OUTBREAK IN US IS OFFICIALLY OVER, HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY

"Over the last seven to nine days, we've had upwards of over 200 new cases. That's doubled just in the last week," said Dr. Johnathon Elkes, an emergency medicine physician at Prisma Health in Greenville, South Carolina, during a media briefing Friday.

"We feel like we're really kind of staring over the edge, knowing that this is about to get a lot worse."

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Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services. (Mike Comer/Getty Images)
Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services.

"The health, safety and well-being of Clemson’s campus community remains our highest priority," the school noted.

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Measles is highly contagious, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. If one person has it, up to nine out of 10 people will become infected if not protected.


A person infected with measles is contagious for four days before and after a rash begins. Isolation of an actively infectious case lasts until four full days have passed after the onset of the rash.

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Dates of isolation are determined by DPH, according to the university press release.

Quarantine for measles is reserved for exposed individuals without documented immunity, and lasts for 21 days after the last exposure, per DPH guidelines.

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If people without documented immunity receive a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, they do not have to quarantine, officials say. (iStock)
If a person without documented immunity receives a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, that person does not have to quarantine.

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The university also claims to have previously provided guidance to students, faculty and staff regarding measles preparedness.

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More information is available on the Student Health Services website and through the South Carolina Department of Public Health’s measles updates.

Khloe Quill is a lifestyle production assistant with Fox News Digital. She and the lifestyle team cover a range of story topics including food and drink, travel, and health.
When you have that many people in a small area vaccine failures come to light. If there are cases in the area. The vaccine was good enough to essentially eliminate the disease, but that was when everybody was taking it.

I’m actually lucky, I had red measles at age 3, German measles at age 8
Those Ukranians have been here for decades- this has nothing to do with war. It broke out in that church, but it's not "immigrants" fault. The vax rate of SC for measles has dipped close to only 90% of children putting us under herd immunity.

That's not immigrant's, that the myriad of anti-vax South Carolinians who caught and are spreading it throughout the state.

Immigrants are not the source of all America's problems no matter how bad you are told they are.
They have not been immunizing their children. Their Ukrainian only school had a 17% vaccination rate. And the public schools where they go were in the 80s at best that’s a recipe for disaster. Probably most of the parents were vaccinated in Ukraine.
 
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Blaming this on Ukrainian's is absolutely hilarious. Do y'all get your news from Russian state sponsored media, lol? Propagandized is definitely a thing.
Well, they’re not vaccinating their children even when they are vaccinated themselves. And that’s how it got started. In Texas it was a Mennonite community.
There is no religion that prohibits vaccines either. Even Christian scientist will allow it.
 
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My question had nothing to do with it being any race. It was simply if having millions, probably 10s of millions,of people coming into the country with zero health screening made you as livid as the very very small percentage of the population that are anti-vaxers.

If anything the results of the Covid vaccine should make you question exactly what big Pharma is pumping into your children. Remember not long ago anyone without the Covid vaccine was as good as a dead man walking. Now Covid is an afterthought to the vast majority of the world.
Pretty sure the parents came from Eastern Europe and they were vaccinated for the most part because they had to be. But for some reason, their children have only been vaccinated at about a 17% rate lately. Using fake religious exemptions since there is no such thing as a religious exemption based on the fact that no religion prohibits vaccination.
 

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Unfortunately even if they are not severe (requiring hospitalization), 1 in 6 cases end in individuals having permanent issues. For instance, my mother was left legally blind from measles as a kid. She wore the thickest glasses I ever saw before she got LASIK surgery as an adult. Keep in mind she got measles before there was a vaccine. Measles carry a bunch of possible lifelong comorbitities.
Again that was your mother. If she was in todays healthcare environment, I’d argue that might not have happened
 

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Well, they’re not vaccinating their children even when they are vaccinated themselves. And that’s how it got started. In Texas it was a Mennonite community.
There is no religion that prohibits vaccines either. Even Christian scientist will allow it.
Jehovah’s Witness prohibit vaccines and blood transfusions
 
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The anti-vaxxers cannot put Covid behind them and they want to spread the conspiracy theory to every single vaccine known to man. Pure stupidity is all I can say.
I think we need to stop labeling everyone that doesn’t vaccinate as being impacted by COVID or afraid of autism. Some people, like myself, choose not to vaccinate for much different reasons
 

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I feel badly for those of you who have expressed fear for your children too young to get the vaccine. The only reason there is a concern is because of the development of large populations of unvaccinated people. Before that it was virtually an eradicated disease.
If we still had scientists running the CDC I suspect they would consider backing up the date of that first vaccination. I believe it would be effective. But I doubt it would be backed up to birth. It was only safe for a little babies when the disease statistically did not really exist in this nation of 350 million people.
 

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Who isn't vaxed and who isn't vaxing their children?
I had red measles at age 3, German measles at age 8, and mumps at age 10. When I was recalled to active duty in 2003, the Navy gave me an MMR because they did not have time to do titers. Even older people like me who had had all the disease diseases had to get the vaccine. I had no symptoms from that shot but I’m probably among the most protected of everybody.
Considering the MMR, I think the R is the most important. That stands for Rubella, the German measles. A basically harmless disease that causes a rash and no symptoms. But pregnant women are subject to giving birth to children with major birth defects if they get German measles. And we all got it, thankfully mostly as children.
I think the Mumps is the second worst. It actually can breakthrough vaccination and large numbers of the military will get it, even though they are clearly all vaccinated. Vaccination clearly reduces it. Mumps causes sterility in adults plus you’re a lot sicker than a child with mumps.
Rubeola is the current problem. Known as the red measles. Victims are sick and can rarely get dangerous complications. But in a huge country, there will be quite a few of those. And there were in the 1950s. ADULTS get a lot sicker with measles. Not a frequent problem when everyone got the measles as children. The vaccine is quite effective, but nothing is 100%. And when an outbreak starts because of large numbers of unvaccinated people, you can actually start seeing vaccinated people get it. Which is what happened at Clemson.
 

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Jehovah’s Witness prohibit vaccines and blood transfusions
I know about the blood transfusion experience. Had to watch one or two of my patients die because of it when they needed surgery and transfusions both. I also saw some give in and take the transfusions and ask us not to tell anybody.
But I have to differ about witnesses and vaccines. They are allowed to take them. I have had to research this before and I just did it again.
 
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no cu pew pew ca choo I don't wear masks anymore, and your whataboutism is sad.

We aren't talking about a novel virus. We're talking about something that was eliminated in the U.S. BECAUSE of the MMR vaccine and now is running rampant again because of conspiracy theories. And it's causing danger to our children. And it could and will be deadly as it continues to spread amongst the most vulnerable
You know, it could be a combination of illegals bringing in measles and then unvaccinated kids acting as a vector.

You're in denial if you think immigrants do not bring all kinds of diseases here.
 

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You know, it could be a combination of illegals bringing in measles and then unvaccinated kids acting as a vector.

You're in denial if you think immigrants do not bring all kinds of diseases here.
By that logic it’s more likely citizens coming back from vacations in certain regions that are causing in increase in exposure imo

I agree with you at a high level though, it’s almost certainly a mixture of a few different things going on right now.
 
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I think we need to stop labeling everyone that doesn’t vaccinate as being impacted by COVID or afraid of autism. Some people, like myself, choose not to vaccinate for much different reasons
I certainly agree with you. There was an anti-vaccine movement before Covid with several well-known proponents.

I’ve always looked at George Washington as being right on everything. I’m not sure we win the revolutionary war if he did not vaccinate our troops against smallpox. It was a crude vaccine that actually used the smallpox virus. But saved thousands. Just a few years later, they came out with the much safer cowpox origin vaccine.

He also advised America to not have political parties and to not get involved in entangling alliances. Wise man.
 

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The South Carolina measles outbreak has spread to Clemson University.

The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a "confirmed case of measles" in an individual associated with the university, according to an update from the school published Saturday.

"The individual has isolated, per DPH requirements, and DPH is conducting contact tracing with individuals who may have been exposed and outlining isolation and quarantine protocols," the school stated.

MEASLES CASES CONFIRMED AT FOUR MAJOR US AIRPORTS ACROSS COUNTRY AMID PEAK HOLIDAY TRAVEL

Individuals thought to be exposed to the virus will be contacted via email about quarantining.

Officials are reporting 558 cases of measles centered around Spartanburg County in the current outbreak.

Clemson University measles outbreak

The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a confirmed case of measles in an individual associated with the university. (iStock)
Some cases are travel-related exposures or close contacts with known cases, according to the DPH.

Other cases have no identified source, suggesting that measles is circulating in the community and could spread further.

LARGEST MEASLES OUTBREAK IN US IS OFFICIALLY OVER, HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY

"Over the last seven to nine days, we've had upwards of over 200 new cases. That's doubled just in the last week," said Dr. Johnathon Elkes, an emergency medicine physician at Prisma Health in Greenville, South Carolina, during a media briefing Friday.

"We feel like we're really kind of staring over the edge, knowing that this is about to get a lot worse."

Clemson logo

Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services. (Mike Comer/Getty Images)
Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services.

"The health, safety and well-being of Clemson’s campus community remains our highest priority," the school noted.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE HEALTH STORIES

Measles is highly contagious, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. If one person has it, up to nine out of 10 people will become infected if not protected.


A person infected with measles is contagious for four days before and after a rash begins. Isolation of an actively infectious case lasts until four full days have passed after the onset of the rash.

CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP FOR OUR HEALTH NEWSLETTER

Dates of isolation are determined by DPH, according to the university press release.

Quarantine for measles is reserved for exposed individuals without documented immunity, and lasts for 21 days after the last exposure, per DPH guidelines.

College students walking

If people without documented immunity receive a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, they do not have to quarantine, officials say. (iStock)
If a person without documented immunity receives a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, that person does not have to quarantine.

CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD THE FOX NEWS APP

The university also claims to have previously provided guidance to students, faculty and staff regarding measles preparedness.

TEST YOURSELF WITH OUR LATEST LIFESTYLE QUIZ

More information is available on the Student Health Services website and through the South Carolina Department of Public Health’s measles updates.

Khloe Quill is a lifestyle production assistant with Fox News Digital. She and the lifestyle team cover a range of story topics including food and drink, travel, and health.

It's the Russians/Ukrainians/immigrants moving into the upstate and they refuse vaccines. I'm being serious
 
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100%.

Zero ******* chance I listen to any mother ****** claiming to be health expert again.

Remember when those vax Nazis wanted to put people in camps if you refused the experimental and dangerous covid shot? I do. **** off with that.

You trot **** like that out 5 short years ago, and dipshits in this thread wonder why people don't trust anything supposed experts say. It focking astonishing that asshats can't make the connection.
🤡
 

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The covid vaccine and the way it was implemented and mandated has really damaged the importance of immunizations and
more importantly the immunizations that are needed, like measles. It will take years to rebuild the public's trust, unfortunately.

Correct. Covid vaccination was implemented in world record time where as measles vaccines have been around 40+ years to verify efficacy
 

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Correct. Covid vaccination was implemented in world record time where as measles vaccines have been around 40+ years to verify efficacy
This is correct. Both side can be stupid on this.
The vast majority of vaccinations have been around for decades. Way more than enough time to study the effects of both efficacy and risks.
It was not even possible the covid vaccine could have been studied long enough. On top of that, the assurances of safety, exaggeration of efficacy, and asinine "science" based guidelines like 6ft/3ft distance and 10/5 day quarantines - some of which contradict the other, gave people a reasonable argument to question "science" that has been taken too far.
 

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The anti-vaxxers cannot put Covid behind them and they want to spread the conspiracy theory to every single vaccine known to man. Pure stupidity is all I can say.
Why should we put it behind us? I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I am furious and what Covid did to this country. A bunch of mindless zombies threw common sense out the window and there are lasting consequences. I want Fauci to stand trial for this. Maybe he will or maybe Biden’s pardon will protect him. Why was he pardoned again?
 
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Wow surprisingly this thread didn’t go as I expected. I was expecting feces to be flung back and forth non stop…
 

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The anti-vax crowd has to be one of the most reckless, ignorant, and dangerous group in America, because they directly affect our children.

And now the head of that crowd is our Secretary of Health.

Just truly reprehensible, and as the father to a baby who isn't old enough to get the measles vaccine yet, and lives in SC, I've been livid about this for months
You realize these outbreaks almost always originate in immigrant communities right? Stuff like this is going to happen when you let 20 million unvetted foreigners across the border over a four year span.
 

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The anti-vax crowd has to be one of the most reckless, ignorant, and dangerous group in America, because they directly affect our children.

And now the head of that crowd is our Secretary of Health.

Just truly reprehensible, and as the father to a baby who isn't old enough to get the measles vaccine yet, and lives in SC, I've been livid about this for months
Damn you liberals cannot pass up an opportunity to spread your poison. You’re a liar. No one is stopping anyone from getting vaccinated.
 

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You realize these outbreaks almost always originate in immigrant communities right? Stuff like this is going to happen when you let 20 million unvetted foreigners across the border over a four year span.
You can always immediately tell whos completely propagandized by their echo chamber like this dude- it's verbatim what the 4-5 other guys in his same echo chamber said throughout this thread. Literally the same words and phrases
 
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The anti-vax crowd has to be one of the most reckless, ignorant, and dangerous group in America, because they directly affect our children.

And now the head of that crowd is our Secretary of Health.

Just truly reprehensible, and as the father to a baby who isn't old enough to get the measles vaccine yet, and lives in SC, I've been livid about this for months
Clemson said 98% is vaccinated. Most the measles outbreaks are immigrants also. Ohio’s big outbreak a while ago was Somalians. Spartanburg was Ukrainian.

The true anti vax movement is a bunch of lefties on the west coast, like RFK. Prediabetic conservatives are using modern medicine daily.