Measles In Clemson and upstate
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That used to be the case, but not any more. That paradigm shifted with COVID.
Every couple weeks on the residents Facebook page here in TR there is someone asking for a pediatrician who "doesn't push vaccines" and then tons of people jumping in to talk about how easy it is to get a religious exemption for school. And these people are very much not liberals.
Side question:
Why is there such a large Ukrainian population in Spartanburg area? A decent chunk of my neighborhood is Ukrainian.
You hear almost only Russian at the local parks. It’s wild.
Why is there such a large Ukrainian population in Spartanburg area? A decent chunk of my neighborhood is Ukrainian.
You hear almost only Russian at the local parks. It’s wild.
So the father concerned about his child should shut up? Thats your stance?
Our entire healthcare system is a symptom based model. Most of those symptoms are caused or exacerbated by the things we expose ourselves to.
I believe if you focus on what you put into your body and expose yourself to, as well as exercise, you will live a healthier life and limit illness/sickness/disease and minimize the effects when they occur.
The problem I have with most of the anti-vaccine crowd, is most aren’t seeking an alternative form of healthcare to mitigate risks. They’re still feeding their children food dyes, preservatives, sodas, etc. They’re making their children more susceptible. If you’re not going to pursue holistic alternatives, you should probably get vaccinated.
My daughter (now 5) had chickenpox when she was two. They brought in all the other doctors and nurses in to see her because none had ever seen a live case before. She was better in three days. Why did she need a vaccine? This is my point about measles. If my daughter isn’t likely to immediately die, why should I vaccinate her? It’s not my duty to inject my child with a foreign substance just to keep others from being sick.
Are you against religious freedom? Seems like we can get schools to start feeding Jews and Muslims pork and Hindus beef since it’s not based in science.
I live in TR. so howdy neighbor
IF you choose not to vaxx yourself or your kids, your choice HOWEVER IF that’s your choice dontbitch and moan when your *** catches something and try to find someone else to blame. Go look in the mirror and accept your CHOICE. Oh and keep your pie hole shut and live with YOUR CHOICE
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Is this a pro-vax but anti immigration kinda unhinged rant? I'm confused here lol
Rly not sure why a vaccinated person would be concerned with what an unvaccinated person does, most especially in this case, only of course exempting those too young. If you have the immunity, you’re good to go.
No, all for freedom of religion, but none of these people's religions disallow vaccines.
See you at the next Farmer's Market!
Measles can be deadly to newborns and babies
The MMR vaccine is not safe for babies until they're 1 years old
If unvaxxed kids are spreading Measles throughout the upstate, for a previously eliminated virus, it puts all baby's under 1 at risk to contract that virus until they have immunity from the vaccine at 1.
Some ped's will give it earlier under some circumstances. We are working with our pediatrician to get it to our baby early.
Does that help?
Well, you can't receive the vaccine until a certain age so those with infants are understandably concerned.
Also, people born in the 60s received an early version that was not as effective and could leave them vulnerable as adults now.
As well, the vaccines have a 97% effective rate. Herd immunity is the best solution, which needs to maintain 95% of the population immunized for measles.
Exactly this, and the upstates of South Carolina (especially Spartanburg county) is now around an 88.5% vaccinated rate, well below herd immunity.
This means it will spread, and spread quickly
And we’re basing this off 40 yr old medical history? Who’s to say it would be deadly to an infant now?
you trust the medical system in regards to the vaccine but don’t trust that the quality of healthcare has improved significantly in 40 years?
I mean, kids have died in the past year.
They all hear the talking points and then walk around repeating them to each other and nodding vigorously.
I’m 1000% Pro VAX and I’m also 1000% pro reality. The benefits outweigh the costs in the vast majority of vaccines. But anyone denying that people suffer from a vaccine injury is also part of the problem.
I had Bell’s palsy in 2001, that’s it. I’ve had three viral neurological palsy occurrences in 2022(bells), 2023(diplopia) and 2025(bells minor case). They have all been linked to the agitation of the Moderna vaccine. I would take the Covid vaccine again but I now have permanent ocular area nerve damage.
People are hurt by them and worse.
I took one for the team. I’d do it again. Science isn’t 100% or 0%. The notion that anyone isn’t hurt by medications/vaccines is dangerous and simply driven on benefits outweigh the costs. I AGREE!!!
If some people have problems with NUTS, LACTOSE, SPICY that range from discomfort to death, it’s highly probable that maybe, just maybe be honest with the pitfalls of vaccines.
The argument of hiding results so people fall in line is why people distrust govt. And there has been MANY studies in our history that prove that.
I go a good bit when warm. That or on my bike around old white horse road/ Dacusville area.
It's been proven safe and effective since 1971.
This outbreak severely contradicts what you're surmising, and if there were better methods to stop/cure measles it would've been found. It hasn't been necessary, as the vaccine eliminated the virus until people stopped taking it.
3 out of 2,242 cases. There could be other factors at play for those 3. You’re telling me that “anti-vaxxers” are to blame for .1% fatality rate?
Yes. Because they are spreading the virus when it was deemed "eliminated" in the early 2000's.
See i’d argue the complete opposite. This outbreak has done nothing to convince me my daughter needs it
I'm saying those are deaths that could've been easily prevented with proven medicine. And you were acting like we didn't have evidence it was still deadly. We do know. It is. Sure the death rate will have gone down due to better medicine overall in the past 40 years. But it is still deadly. We do actually know this. We don't have to wonder.
They’re not spreading anything. If your kid is vaccinated, how are they going to get it? If they get it, you should blame the vaccine for being ineffective. If the vaccine is so effective, it can’t spread beyond the unvaccinated no??!
Babies under 1 can't get the MMR unless special circumstances allow it, and your pediatrician has to sign off. I'm in the process now.
However, because she can't get the vaccine yet, she is at danger from contracting the virus from unvaccinated kids who contract it and are spreading it. Also, you can be vaxxed and still be a carrier. This is how vaccines work- so hypothetically my baby could contract it from a vaxxed kid who became a carrier from an unvaxxed kid.
These are things we shouldn't have to worry about in 2026.
This isn't hard, man.
Or how about this… I don’t need your permission to make personal medical decisions
I don’t tell you what to inject into your body and you aren’t going to tell me what to inject into mine
“if I have a valid reason or not”. Lol.
It will never cease to amaze me how people will abandon logic and common sense to support what their political party tells them to support.
Dear Lord we HATE OUR PEOPLE.
The Brady Bunch Measles S1E13 episode is pulled.
Meanwhile, the amount of lies from the Left and Right daily play right on.
All six children have the measles. Carol calls the girls' usual doctor, a woman, Dr. Porter (Marion Ross), while Mike has called the boys' doctor, a man Dr. Cameron (Herbert Anderson), and the two debate on whose doctor to continue using. The girls prefer their usual doctor, and the boys prefer theirs, and neither group is willing to switch. Mike and Carol come to the conclusion that they can simply continue to use both doctors, and it turns out that both doctors have decided to combine their practices.
The Brady Bunch Measles S1E13 episode is pulled.
Meanwhile, the amount of lies from the Left and Right daily play right on.
All six children have the measles. Carol calls the girls' usual doctor, a woman, Dr. Porter (Marion Ross), while Mike has called the boys' doctor, a man Dr. Cameron (Herbert Anderson), and the two debate on whose doctor to continue using. The girls prefer their usual doctor, and the boys prefer theirs, and neither group is willing to switch. Mike and Carol come to the conclusion that they can simply continue to use both doctors, and it turns out that both doctors have decided to combine their practices.
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Of course and I did alter my OP in thinking about that. And it’s a fair enough concern for sure. If that’s folks main concerns I would agree.
Does beg the question why it seems infants, historically, didn’t really get measles but seem to be quite high risk now.
I don’t see how in the world 95% is ever achievable without military blockades and forced vaccination. Even then might be challenging. Seems a high number to rely on, IMO.
Considering waning vaccine-derived titers as well, you would either need to increase population booster frequency (see above) or do routine titer testing on the entire population.
If there is a 3% lack of efficacy your rates need to be higher than 95% and/or persistent titer testing.
The rate was over 95% for decades until the past few years when vaccine hesitancy rose (more) to prominence. This is why it was declared "eliminated"
I don't understand the measles "outbreak". South Carolina requires 2 MMR shots after children reach 1 year old. If the vaccine is effective those who receive it cannot become infected. So can this really turn into a big thing?Anyone personally affected?
The South Carolina measles outbreak has spread to Clemson University.
The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a "confirmed case of measles" in an individual associated with the university, according to an update from the school published Saturday.
"The individual has isolated, per DPH requirements, and DPH is conducting contact tracing with individuals who may have been exposed and outlining isolation and quarantine protocols," the school stated.
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Individuals thought to be exposed to the virus will be contacted via email about quarantining.
Officials are reporting 558 cases of measles centered around Spartanburg County in the current outbreak.
The state's Department of Public Health informed Clemson staff of a confirmed case of measles in an individual associated with the university. (iStock)
Some cases are travel-related exposures or close contacts with known cases, according to the DPH.
Other cases have no identified source, suggesting that measles is circulating in the community and could spread further.
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"Over the last seven to nine days, we've had upwards of over 200 new cases. That's doubled just in the last week," said Dr. Johnathon Elkes, an emergency medicine physician at Prisma Health in Greenville, South Carolina, during a media briefing Friday.
"We feel like we're really kind of staring over the edge, knowing that this is about to get a lot worse."
Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services. (Mike Comer/Getty Images)
Nearly 98% of main campus Clemson students have provided proof of immunity, according to the most recent data from Student Health Services.
"The health, safety and well-being of Clemson’s campus community remains our highest priority," the school noted.
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Measles is highly contagious, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. If one person has it, up to nine out of 10 people will become infected if not protected.
A person infected with measles is contagious for four days before and after a rash begins. Isolation of an actively infectious case lasts until four full days have passed after the onset of the rash.
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Dates of isolation are determined by DPH, according to the university press release.
Quarantine for measles is reserved for exposed individuals without documented immunity, and lasts for 21 days after the last exposure, per DPH guidelines.
If people without documented immunity receive a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, they do not have to quarantine, officials say. (iStock)
If a person without documented immunity receives a dose of the MMR vaccine within 72 hours after the last exposure, that person does not have to quarantine.
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The university also claims to have previously provided guidance to students, faculty and staff regarding measles preparedness.
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More information is available on the Student Health Services website and through the South Carolina Department of Public Health’s measles updates.
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