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Todd4State

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Rich Rod has ties there, and is very popular there. They need a good coach. I think it would be a good fit for both.

His offense would work well there too.
 

hullabaloodog

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Tulane isn't going to pony up the money to pay a him what he wants. Also, Rich Rod is apparently still butt hurt over getting passed over for the job back in 99 when Bowden left (Rich Rod was the OC on the team that went 12-0). He still has very ill feelings towards the university president.
 

BehrDawg

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He 17ed his Alma Mater (WVU) to go to Michigan and he laid a big turd there. I see him having to take a job like Tulane and a pay cut and prove himself before he gets another fat job.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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...cupboard left by old *** Lloyd Carr (I think?) take several years to overcome. It sure looks like their talent was improving each year. I'd take Rich Rod as a coach. Half of his problem was simply that he wasn't a Meeechigan guy.
 

Incognegro

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Don't forgot that Rich Rod was running off players that didn't fit his scheme. Don't forget why Ryan Mallet ended up at Arkansas. It wasn't because he wasn't good obviously. It was because Rodriguez told him he wasn't going to play because he didn't fit the spread he envisioned. Good coaches do not do that.
 

BehrDawg

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What the 17 does that mean? Les Miles isn't an "LSU Guy", Saban isn't a "Bama Guy", Urban Meyer wasn't a "Florida Guy". That doesn't mean jack ****. RR coached in a weak Big East and was successful because he did something different from everyone else. I think his system just didn't fit well with Michigan and the Big 10. They may have improved...some, but we beat their 17ing asses 52-14 in the Gator Bowl. That isn't much improvement from when he took over.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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is always mentioned for their job. There was a ton of resentment towards Rich Rod from the day he took the job. Half the fans never liked him.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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but with Denard Robinson, and the other talent they have now, he was getting the players who fit that spread scheme of his. Sure, he could have used Mallet in the meantime, but they seemed to be getting closer.

Do you not think he can build another winner like he did at WVU?
 

BehrDawg

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What does that have to do with his coaching ability? Nothing. Just because people don't "like" a coach has nothing to do with him being able to coach his team. It is different when it comes to the players, but fans? Not buying it.
 

Incognegro

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That's not to say it's always going to be as easy from one place to the other. It takes a bit of luck and knowing when the pander to the current talent you have. When he was at Michigan, he didn't pander to his current players. Not only that, but their defense got worse. It's hard to blame the Michigan fanbase wanting him out.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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if given the time to get the players he needs. He was only at Michigan three years. He won 3, then 5, then 7 games. That's improving. He recruited Robinson, and some other really good players. I think he's still a good coach, and will prove it somewhere.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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like it's improvement to me. If any coach did that at OM or MSU we'd be singing their praises from the rooftop.
 

BehrDawg

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Well, his problem was he laid a turd. He wasn't getting the job done. What was the job? Coaching. You are digging yourself in a deeper hole on every post.
 

Incognegro

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that out of their 3 biggest rivals, tOSU, MSU and ND, the only team he beat in his 3 years were 2 pretty weak Notre Dame teams. I think there was also a stat that he had a losing record against conference opponents with losing records. It seems unreasonable to our standards, but the bar for winning at Michigan is so much higher than it is here. That's why I don't feel sorry for him because he knew that going into it.
 

mstateglfr

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Maybe he could have had more time.
Maybe the fan base would have taken to him more and been more on his side.

That's what him not being a Michigan man could mean in terms of his employment.

He can have all the talent in the world, but if a fan base isn't behind him and be willing to give him time to rebuild, then chances are he won't be successful.
Call it laying a turd, I guess. I certainly wouldn't call his tenure there turd worthy when you take into account what he was coming into, but everyone has different standards and yours places his body of work in the turd category.
 
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Sterling Archer.nafoom

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hell, they'd probably be saying "Wow, look how he's gotten better every year, he's really building something"
 

mstateglfr

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College sports programs all over the country for years have kept a coach on too long because the coach is an alum.
So if they weren't an alum, they wouldn't be allowed that much time...Like Rich Rod.
 

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But he won 3, then 5, then 7 games. That seems like it's improvement to me
Except for the fact they won 9 the year before he got there. And even the 7 he won in his last yearwould have been theirworst seasonsince 1967 if not for his first 2 years.
 

Todd4State

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I talked to someone that is close to the Michigan program. The problem was not so much that Rich Rod wasn't a Michigan man as much as it was he was doing away with some of their traditional things that they do at Michigan. He didn't say what traditions specifically, but apparently it was a big deal.
 

KurtRambis4

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if a good portion of your fanbase is against you from day one, it can probably make things difficult.