Message to Scott Stricklin ... Read & Heed

BiscuitEater

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Excellent Yahoo article ... How Michigan's Greed Alienated Fans: A Cautionary Tale For All College Football

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/roa...um-students-business-tv-ncaa-michigan-tickets

This spring, the Michigan athletic department admitted what many had long suspected: Student football ticket sales are down, way down, from about 21,000 in 2012 to a projected 13,000-14,000 this season.

The department has blamed cell phones, high-definition TV and student apathy sweeping the nation. All real problems, to be sure, but they don't explain how Michigan alienated 40 percent of its students in just two years -- and their parents, too.

How did Michigan do it? By forgetting why we love college football.

The Students Are The Future
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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While schools are pushed to make more money,

fans will push back, and say enough is enough.

That is why some schools (even SEC) are seeing more empty seats.

That tipping point has about been reached, plus a little.
 

dickiedawg

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This kind of rambled on for a really freaking long time without really making much of point, and after the first two sections I lost interest.
They've continually jacked up student ticket prices while the fanbase as a whole is buying fewer tickets. That doesn't seem to make much sense at all, and seems to be a valid criticism.
But they're seriously moaning about going to a first come, first served model? The "sit with your classmates" thing sounds archaic. Who among us didn't have any friends a year younger or older than themselves in college?

As for TV, way to point out an issue that everyone in the world realizes is negatively effecting CFB attendance and offer ZERO solutions.
 

patdog

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I think the tipping point was reached a couple of years ago. Attendance is starting to trend downwards, especially actual attendance. That's not going to change for the foreseeable future. I'm glad our current expansion is only adding a few thousand seats. That really is all we need.
 

RebelBruiser

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I think the tipping point was reached a couple of years ago. Attendance is starting to trend downwards, especially actual attendance. That's not going to change for the foreseeable future. I'm glad our current expansion is only adding a few thousand seats. That really is all we need.

Agree with that. And it's a problem the NFL is dealing with too right now. I don't even think it's necessarily the ticket prices alone though that's driving fans away.

It's the fact that every game is on TV, and you've got a 50 inch flat screen with HD at home, and you've got all the commentary to go with it.

About the only thing the in-game experience has that watching at home doesn't is the "feel" of being there in person and the energy of the stadium, but when you're weighing that against the drive, the cost of possible hotels, the ticket prices, all those other things, it can be easy just to watch on TV.

As attention spans get shorter with each generation, this is going to become an even bigger issue. Most schools will just sacrifice crowds and settle for negotiating the best possible deals for TV contracts. That's essentially what the NFL has done. They try to amp up the in-game content. I know our athletic department has done some benchmarking work to ramp up in-game content too, but you can only do so much.
 

patdog

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They manage to suck a lot of that feel out of the game by dragging it out with all the commercial time. And I honestly think the mega-jumbo-trons that you see everywhere now are actually counterproductive and suck some of the feel of the game away too. Although that may be more of a problem at MSU than at other schools.
 

Miss.Stake

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BeCAUSE football games last 3 hours and 15 freakin minutes in uncomfortable *** bleacher seats (for the common man).
 

Bulldog Bruce

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NFL still has blackout rules though. So if it is not sold out, you won't see it on TV.
 

esplanade91

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Agree with that. And it's a problem the NFL is dealing with too right now. I don't even think it's necessarily the ticket prices alone though that's driving fans away.

It's the fact that every game is on TV, and you've got a 50 inch flat screen with HD at home, and you've got all the commentary to go with it.

About the only thing the in-game experience has that watching at home doesn't is the "feel" of being there in person and the energy of the stadium, but when you're weighing that against the drive, the cost of possible hotels, the ticket prices, all those other things, it can be easy just to watch on TV.

As attention spans get shorter with each generation, this is going to become an even bigger issue. Most schools will just sacrifice crowds and settle for negotiating the best possible deals for TV contracts. That's essentially what the NFL has done. They try to amp up the in-game content. I know our athletic department has done some benchmarking work to ramp up in-game content too, but you can only do so much.
I've never been to an NFL game and said "Hey, this kind of sucks." I've been to 4 different stadiums, and they pretty much all have had a less-is-more-attitude with fan involvement. Sure, go WAAAAAY over the top with endorsement after endorsement before and after the game and maybe even a little during halftime (if you're not one of the 90% who run to get beer the entire half), but I've never been annoyed at an NFL game.

And for those who are actually a fan of the NFL, I'm willing to bet it's a staggering majority who would rather be at the game than at home. The guys who claim it's too expensive to buy cheap seats and spend $50 on refreshments aren't the type of people NFL teams want at games anyhow, so if you can leave those people at home and still make money off them giving you TV ratings... Boom.

TV isn't hurting the NFL. If anything it's growing it and has basically given them the ability to print money. The JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS haven't had a blacked out game in 2 seasons... Which means the worst franchise in North American professional sports is about to enter its 3rd season of selling out of tickets.

Colleges, not just MSU (although a lot of people will insist it's mostly us just because it's who they're move familiar with), don't have the ability to command people's attention outside the game (Coors Light - the official beer of Mississippi State football!) so they take the only time they have a sitting audience and blast in your ear 1,000 times over. And unfortunately a lot of times it's local or regional businesses with ****** quality ads that aren't tested in 50 focus groups before being aired. I blame the Alabama's for setting some kind of precedent that college teams need all this money... Having money is important, but was it really necessary to sell the backstop behind home plate for however much we sold it for? What's the end result? Is that extra $10k going to make us relevant? Colleges seem to just do this stuff to do it because it's there.

I don't buy the whole "TV is fantastic" argument. What kind of person would rather be at home than at a game, all things be the same? Variable X here is a ****** experience. NFL is having little to no problems selling tickets and building billion dollar stadiums.
 
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RocketDawg

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Well ... at the moment, I have no intention of buying season tickets next year. And I probably wouldn't this year if I knew when I pledged what I know now. And I'll save about $5K, plus hotels and gas. It's not worth that to sit inside the goal line. I will keep a low-level BDC donation for inheritance purposes. The school got too greedy for me.
 

PBRME

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This. They absolutely kill the environment with constant tv timeouts and sponsored by ads on the jumbo tron. The NCAA is doing their part by trying to find ways to shorten the game so they can squeeze more commercial time in.


I understand it's a money driven sport and there won't be any changes, but something needs to be done.
 
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On what basis should someone be allowed to leapfrog your seats, if not money?

Just because one had access to a seat 20 years ago doesn't entitle one to that seat forever. I paid more money this year and I got better seats. If someone takes my seat, I hope that they paid more than me. In the past, good ole boys got better seats. Bulldog Club points take loyalty and $$$ into account. I don't know what other factors you expect them to use. Apparently some people wanted "loyalty" to have a higher weight even though you can't buy more loyalty. I've been in the Bulldog Club for 13 years and was a student prior to that time. I've witnessed Croom/McCovery and remained in the same "average" seats for 13 years. I complained and complained but no option for better seats short of a skybox. I don't understand the anger towards administration when the new policy is clearly in the best interest of the university.

Well ... at the moment, I have no intention of buying season tickets next year. And I probably wouldn't this year if I knew when I pledged what I know now. And I'll save about $5K, plus hotels and gas. It's not worth that to sit inside the goal line. I will keep a low-level BDC donation for inheritance purposes. The school got too greedy for me.
 

engie

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This. They absolutely kill the environment with constant tv timeouts and sponsored by ads on the jumbo tron. The NCAA is doing their part by trying to find ways to shorten the game so they can squeeze more commercial time in.


I understand it's a money driven sport and there won't be any changes, but something needs to be done.

Just so everyone knows this, and it's been repeated a good bit, Stricklin is promising NO in-game ads this year. All pregame and haltime...