I remember when we hired Croom that Randy Shannon and Charlie Strong were also considered. After watching Shannon's team dismantle Fla St and Ga Tech, I can't help but wonder what might have been. Of course, the poet did say "what might have been" are the saddest words of tongue or pen so we move on - but thanks LT!
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I remember when we hired Croom that Randy Shannon and Charlie Strong were also considered. After watching Shannon's team dismantle Fla St and Ga Tech, I can't help but wonder what might have been. Of course, the poet did say "what might have been" are the saddest words of tongue or pen so we move on - but thanks LT!
couple of years and that was w/ decent talent but he seems to be getting it now (as well as top flight players). We supposedly interviewed him and he said he didn't think we were actually interested and then we hired O. At least the guy is delivering in year three (and did ok year two).
...because that was then, and we have taken different roads. We can't go back again. There's no use giving in. And there's no way to know what might've been.
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Maybe I am just jaded because of the Croom Error, but it makes me mad to see other programs prosper after the what we dealt with. I feel like any NCAA sanctions would have been easier to overcome than 5 years of Crooms lazy *** recruiting and incompetent ingame corching.
17 you LT!
17 you LT!
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geeze it`s funny that the rest of the college football world missed that and NOBODY offered hom a job when he left MSU.</p>
Miami's 'tradition' is completely overrated. They can not fill their stadium half full, their facilities suck (they don't even have their own stadium anymore), and 90% of football fans in South Florida care about either UF or FSU and despise Miami.
I guess the amount of talent in the area makes up for all of the above.
I guess the amount of talent in the area makes up for all of the above.
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Five national championships. Two Heisman trophy winners. The longest home winning streak in NCAA history at 58 straight games. An incredible number of players drafted into the NFL. Miami's football program is far from overrated.
you're being pretty selective with what you're reading. this thread is about whether randy shannon would have won at state like he is right now at miami if we had hired him instead of croom
If their "tradition" is so great, its hard to believe they can't ever get people in their stadium. There is a difference between having a solid tradition and just winning games. Granted, they do usually go hand in hand, but not in this case.
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I can't believe you tried to equate having a full stadium to having a winning tradition. Those two things are not necessarily related at all.
Havard, Yale, and Army have great traditions. USM probably puts more fans in the stands than they do. I know that's a stretch, but ... you should get my drift. Current fans in the stands have nothing to do with the history of the program.
Those two things are totally unrelated.
Havard, Yale, and Army have great traditions. USM probably puts more fans in the stands than they do. I know that's a stretch, but ... you should get my drift. Current fans in the stands have nothing to do with the history of the program.
Those two things are totally unrelated.
I think you may have misunderstood my intent. There is not doubt they have won plenty of games in the past 30 years. I am talking about all the things that make up a teams tradition (longevity, fanbase, etc). They have the winning part in the past 30 years, they just don't have the rest.
My post was certainly not negative about this hire and this coach. I simply believe if Shannon had been hired instead of Croom we would not have endured those horrible years, would have had a successful program, and Shannon would now be in the "bigs". We could still have wound up with Dan the Man.