Michael Smith scuttlebutt

18IsTheMan

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What does Syracuse gain by holding a ''college student athlete'' hostage?

Partly just the principle of the thing. A deal's a deal.

Also, from Syracuse's perspective, it puts them behind the eight ball trying to find a replacement for him if they let him out of the deal.
 

18IsTheMan

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Michael took their money and ran with it. Now he is being held accountable for his actions.
Yep. I mean, it sucks b/c it sounds like he's getting bad advice from vultures in his life, but what's Syracuse to do? They let him out of the deal then they have to scramble to find a replacement.
 

Mr. Belvedere

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Michael took their money and ran with it. Now he is being held accountable for his actions.
First off nobody here knows if he actually received any money. That has not been specifically stated or factually presented. If he signed a contract to potentially receive said money for playing for Syracuse, that is likely the issue. Assuming he took money and ran is ridiculous without proof.
 

Piscis

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Can't he simply quit the Syracuse team, give them back the NIL money and walk away? I don't think he can be required to play college football.

The next question is; since he left SC and is no longer on the team, won't he have to have the grades to get back in as a regular student?
 

Tngamecock

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Partly just the principle of the thing. A deal's a deal.

Also, from Syracuse's perspective, it puts them behind the eight ball trying to find a replacement for him if they let him out of the deal.
True but do you want someone taking up a scholarship who doesn’t want to be there
 
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He can always enter the portal after next season, but may change his mind again and want to stay. They are expecting Snow there on Friday, so i hope he enjoys the weather.
 

sclawman77

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Christian singer and song writer. He is probably 5’10” 160, but a really good prospect.
You beat me to it. Only Michael Smith I'm halfway familiar with. He dropped the W middle initial and is more focused on football at this stage in his life now that he's probably in his 70s. 😄
 
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Per discussions on X, it seems he had a change of heart about the Syracuse transfer. He showed up on campus at USC and tried to register for classes, but Syracuse wouldn't let him out of his signed deal.

Sounds like the kid is getting all kinds of bad advice from people in his life.
Didn’t he leave the team during the season? Why would we take someone like that back? It’s freezing cold in Syracuse. I wonder if he knew just how miserable it truly would be. Live with the consequences bro…learn from it.
 
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18IsTheMan

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Didn’t he leave the team during the season? Why would we take someone like that back? It’s freezing cold in Syracuse. I wonder if he knew just how miserable it truly would be. Live with the consequences bro…learn from it.
I don't remember the circumstances...if he just sat out, quit the team entirely or what.

From the outside looking in, he seems to be someone falling victim to all the vultures in the game. Maybe parents who get $$$ in their eyes, an agent who doesn't give a rip about the long-term interest of the kid. The current system with NIL and the portal is just a toxic brew for kids 18-19 year old kids.

Or he could just be a knucklehead.
 

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Don’t think Beamer would take him back but remember the player who transferred from Wisconsin to Miami without entering the portal.All kinds of lawsuits but he played this year at Miami.At this point the players have all the power and can do pretty much what they want without recourse.
But again I don’t think any way he could be at Carolina cause Beamer wouldn’t take him back
 

Fried Chicken

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I don't remember the circumstances...if he just sat out, quit the team entirely or what.

From the outside looking in, he seems to be someone falling victim to all the vultures in the game. Maybe parents who get $$$ in their eyes, an agent who doesn't give a rip about the long-term interest of the kid. The current system with NIL and the portal is just a toxic brew for kids 18-19 year old kids.

Or he could just be a knucklehead.
It’s both. There are folks giving bad advice sure. But he’s also lacking discernment and listening. He’s responsible for it.

I’m sure he’s getting at least some $. Not a ton, it some. More than he probably got here. But not enough to make him love Syracuse, NY in January.
 
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Don’t think Beamer would take him back but remember the player who transferred from Wisconsin to Miami without entering the portal.All kinds of lawsuits but he played this year at Miami.At this point the players have all the power and can do pretty much what they want without recourse.
But again I don’t think any way he could be at Carolina cause Beamer wouldn’t take him back
Beamer was good with him coming back according to solid insiders
 

Gamecock Disciple

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As to the question of who he is, he caught a pivotal TD against MO late in the game (2024 season) and was a true FR. He has great size and is a beast. However, on multiple occasions, Beamer noted that "a player needs to show up in practice" and this was in reference to Smith (and maybe another one) ... as little as we historically use our TE's, this young man could be the real deal and I hated losing him ... good questions on here about signing, compensation, and overall things we do not know. I agree with the statement regarding the "principle of the thing", however, greed, lawsuits, agents, lack of teeth from the NCAA, etc., has made the sport a joke and creates horrible habits for life. How many times have we read where a player, of long ago, wanted to transfer (and they would have had to sit out a year) but their parent(s) told them NO ... you signed a LOI and you will need to work through this difficult time .... I do wish him well and understand where SYR is coming from ....
 

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Boys, they've got to get some legal boundaries set which cover all this stuff or there's going to be nothing but snafus and dysfunction from now on. The timing of the portal alone engenders chaos. If schools want to keep doing big-time sports, they've got to get the portal fixed and regulated, even if they have to change the academic calendar to do it. That would be convoluted but college athletics can't go on like this.
 
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I don't remember the circumstances...if he just sat out, quit the team entirely or what.

From the outside looking in, he seems to be someone falling victim to all the vultures in the game. Maybe parents who get $$$ in their eyes, an agent who doesn't give a rip about the long-term interest of the kid. The current system with NIL and the portal is just a toxic brew for kids 18-19 year old kids.

Or he could just be a knucklehead.
He wanted to redshirt after playing the 4 games and Beamer told him to take a hike, from what I understand.
 

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#1 Rule that I live by. Don't make changes in a good situation unless you have a guarantee (Starting position/Already reviewed the contract). Smith had a potentially good situation here. He was in the mix for significant playing time if he could just get himself healthy. Someone may have made communication about offers, but what does the playing time look like? Where is the contract? You could go somewhere else and that coaching staff may not like your game (Omega Blake at ECU) and you then have to scramble to just find a roster spot anywhere. All money isn't good money. The playing situation in many respects is as important as the money. Teenage kids don't listen in some situations though.
 

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He wanted to redshirt after playing the 4 games and Beamer told him to take a hike, from what I understand.
Yeah, he wanted to redshirt to save a year of eligibility to make his stock better when he entered the portal! I don't blame beamer!
 

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#1 Rule that I live by. Don't make changes in a good situation unless you have a guarantee (Starting position/Already reviewed the contract). Smith had a potentially good situation here. He was in the mix for significant playing time if he could just get himself healthy. Someone may have made communication about offers, but what does the playing time look like? Where is the contract? You could go somewhere else and that coaching staff may not like your game (Omega Blake at ECU) and you then have to scramble to just find a roster spot anywhere. All money isn't good money. The playing situation in many respects is as important as the money. Teenage kids don't listen in some situations though.
You have to remember, these guys were the sh*t in HS. No one on the field was as good as they were. Everyone around them was telling them how great they were, including the college coaches who were recruiting them. Then, they get to college and, most of them aren't even the best player at their position, much less on the team. Suddenly, they aren't the go to weapon and aren't even getting to play in every game. Meanwhile, when they are talking to all their home boys and their "uncles" and their momma and everyone from back home, they are being told they should be playing more, getting more money and they aren't being treated right. Now, they get their lip poked out and start thinking they can do better elsewhere.

So, of course they jump in the portal. Most end up in a worse program.
 

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I enjoyed watching young men develop over time and contribute to the team. Now, I watch professional football to watch players grow up and achieve their potential.
 
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You have to remember, these guys were the sh*t in HS. No one on the field was as good as they were. Everyone around them was telling them how great they were, including the college coaches who were recruiting them. Then, they get to college and, most of them aren't even the best player at their position, much less on the team. Suddenly, they aren't the go to weapon and aren't even getting to play in every game. Meanwhile, when they are talking to all their home boys and their "uncles" and their momma and everyone from back home, they are being told they should be playing more, getting more money and they aren't being treated right. Now, they get their lip poked out and start thinking they can do better elsewhere.

So, of course they jump in the portal. Most end up in a worse program.
Being a star athlete at one time should not make you lose common sense. For example, why was Josiah Thompson ever entertaining leaving unless Beamer is pushing you out the door. Dude, you are 2 year starter. Yeah, it hasn't gone great, but you are starter on an SEC team (even though it is a bottom rung one). Why go out there taking chances of blowing that up on the (promise) of some additional money that you haven't seen yet. Yeah, going to Georgia and Miami sounds nice, but they get you in there without assurances and you end up short on the money and holding your helmet. Glad he could finally see through the BS. Hate it that Michael Smith couldn't see it until it is apparently too late.
 

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Being a star athlete at one time should not make you lose common sense. For example, why was Josiah Thompson ever entertaining leaving unless Beamer is pushing you out the door. Dude, you are 2 year starter. Yeah, it hasn't gone great, but you are starter on an SEC team (even though it is a bottom rung one). Why go out there taking chances of blowing that up on the (promise) of some additional money that you haven't seen yet. Yeah, going to Georgia and Miami sounds nice, but they get you in there without assurances and you end up short on the money and holding your helmet. Glad he could finally see through the BS. Hate it that Michael Smith couldn't see it until it is apparently too late.
Who was the RB from Newberry that transfered to us, had a great year, decided to hit the portal to Memphis of all places, who we never heard of again? Ask Juice Wells about the green grass.

I understand leaving for playing time. But starters leaving without having a landing spot with way more money is just dumb. (Unless it’s about family issues)