I was lucky to be invited to their luncheon on Saturday. My daughter did her undergrad at RU and Masters at Michigan. Her friend from grad schools dad played on the 1969 National Championship team. He is now the president of this organization. Jim Betts explained to me what they do. First if any former player who has graduated has lost his health insurance due to a catastrophic illness, or cannot afford health insurance they will pay for it. Secondly if for any reason a former player is not working, they will retrain them and place them in a suitable position. This luncheon took place in the Chrysler building which is their basketball arena. It was attended by at least 100 former players. Even though I was the only one wearing RU apparel I was treated with respect. I was wondering if anything exists at RU like this
MIchigan Football Alum Association-Impressed by it.
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When I was at this function there were 4 hot dishes that were available, no hot dogs or popcorn. It shows what we are up against in dollars when it comes to the BIG.
what is the UM foundation amount vs. the RU foundation amount? I'm willing to bet it's 4 or 5 times more easily. It's easy to do nice things when you have money. we've got a long way to go.
The treatment we got at the Ohio state letterwinners event last year was top notch. They not only invited RU letterwinners, they invited RU letterwinners families, all free. My family had a great time, then one of their letterwinners took me on a tour of their letterwinners club in the stadium. We are starting to do more at RU, but I would rather tailgate at my car with family and friends than pay $20 a head for each family member to attend the RU letterwinners events.
Apparently, at Rutgers the responsibility of giving job training belongs to the school's professors and educators.....not an alumni group.
The OP doesn't read that way to me.
It reads that they will place a football alum in a suitable position. Not give them "job training." It's an alum network. Friends of the program look out for alums of the program. Perish the thought.
You really want to go after Michigan on academics?
Please come back when the next Fludd academic scandal information is released, because that report IS COMING, and have the ballz to admit that the Emperor has no clothes re: Flood and academic integrity.
Koleszar, are you a FBLW? If not then unless you won the raffle you had no business being there. And if you would take the time to find out just what our FBLW organization has tried to do and some of the problems we have recently encountered then you might better understand. Because of situations regarding the caterer at the stadium our hands are tied. With respect to a cash bar...again our hands are tied. Want to help..then get us some sponsors. Some things are beyond our control due to contracts made by a former AD. When we could use dining services things were much better. And lastly so you know we do try to take care of our FBLW with our own job network thru contacts made thru us. Are we completely satisfied..no as we always seek to improve things but it is also a two way street. More help from our own people and the University is what is needed.
Anytime you want to discuss this feel free to leave contact information...but this is not the place for this topic to be discussed in the manner you try to present it.
Anytime you want to discuss this feel free to leave contact information...but this is not the place for this topic to be discussed in the manner you try to present it.
Relax Francis! I mean let's be honest here - do you think the resource that UM has is the same as RU. Don't be so defensive - we need an aspiration; regardless of the "situation" we should use the successful as a model....
Just so you know we are not dumb....we do use what is successful at other schools as an example and goal. One of the big benefits of being in the B1G is trying to point out to the administration and our own people just what can be done. There are projects we have done that folks like Koleszar probably hsve no knowledge of or what in the past we've donated back to the school or how we've helped some of our former players. We are well aware that we have to and can do more.
I think you're being overly defensive here.
Whether they are legitimate reasons or not, schools like Michigan, OSU, Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State would figure a way out of the contract or put pressure on the new caterer to figure it out.
And no legitimate caterer would charge more than $12-15 pp for an open bar event (on top of the food cost). If RU can't provide $2,500 (With tax and tip) to have an open bar event for 100-150 football letterwinners every week, I don't know what to say.
Have no idea why you attacked me just telling it like it is. I'm not going to go back and forth with you about this because you obviously are too emotionally involved to have a civil discussion. I applaud you on your efforts but I said nothing malicious in my post. I don't know you and I would never attack you. Please if you see my post in the future try and ignore it as I will ignore yours. Your actions were uncalled for sir.
Half right. Al those perks and programs the OP mentioned were NOT funded by the university, they were funded by the alumni. Last year, though there were issues with Brady Hoke, you didn't see alumni threatening to withhold donations and "burn the program down". They kept contributing, and at a level RU has never seen. Although I might have missed it, I don't recall any gofundme programs to fly banners around the stadium or print t-shirts.
Lynch mobs don't produce long term Top 20 programs.
Maybe if you attended a game, you would have seen the "Brady Hoke Farewell Tour" T-shirts walking around the parking lot...hundreds of them...Michigan Maize and Blue.
Perhaps @MrsScrew can share a pic or 10 for your edification.
Hudson and Koleszar it appoears as thouhh you don't have sll the facts or any knowledge of our organization etc. And Koleszar..you never responded how you were able to gain access to this event which by the way is only open to FBLW with certain credentials You said you were appalled...I'll leave it at that. Apparently you were in the sidelines and somehow snuck in...unless you are a qualified FBLW in which case I suggest you attend one of our meetings and express your concerns which may be valid. We always welcome and seek input from our members. This is not a matter of bring defensive but trying to deal with actual facts...perhaps if someone attended a party at your home and posted on a public forum that they were "appalled" at some of the things they observed rtc you might understand better. This is the problem with public forums like this.
And if you may have been a legitimate guest or member then perhaps contacting those in charge separately might have been a more prudent action.
And if you may have been a legitimate guest or member then perhaps contacting those in charge separately might have been a more prudent action.
I was watching the game on television, so I didn't see that. But don't let that obscure my 2 main points:
1. Nobody was advocating "burning down" or boycotting the Michigan Football Alumni Assoc., and
2. Lynch mobs don't create long term Top 20 programs
Neither does accepting perpetual mediocrity.
You can only be Charlie Brown and taken seriously for so long.
Due to a confluence of events, we have now squandered 2 straight years of momentum associated with B10 entrance. Many of those events can be placed at the feet of the current head coach. We are less than a handful of blowouts from being considered Purdue East from every person with even the slightest interest in B10 football.
You don't get first impressions back.
You might be okay with being a dumpster fire because Flood is a nice guy. That's certainly your choice.
Here you go. there were dozens of fans walking around the tailgate lots wearing these. OO was on the back.
You're missing the point. The solution wasn't burning down either the program or the Football Alumni Association. In 2013 and 2014 the Michigan Football Alumni Assoc. provided more support, even during a "dumpster fire", than the RU alums did. Even in those dumpster fire years, Michigan's recruiting remained at a high level. Why? Because the history is one of long term support and not burning down the program.
Some of us did get the point and knew exactly what you meant by your OP.
Thanks for the info.
That all depends on who they think is doing the drinking.
You're lost.
Open bar beer and wine is $9-12 pp for an average selections (2 whites, 2 reds, domestic bottles)
Add in blended bar (Jack, Smirnoff, Seagrams) and you are no higher than the mid teens assuming you are also paying the caterer for food.
You are not into the $20s pp until you increase beer selections to import and add top shelf booze (Grey Goose, Kettle, Makers, Tanqueray, etc)
If you are paying more than that, send me an email. I'll cater the party
On Saturday at the UM Football Alum Association just FYI it was an open bar outside the Crisler building under a tent.
Michigan did not win the national title in '69. They won the Big Ten with an 8-2 record and had a legendary upset of #1 and defending NC OSU, then lost in the Rose Bowl to finish 8-3. It was Bo's first season.
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My "location" is planet earth.
You made a post lamenting the price that your organization (presuming you are actually in a position to speak for the organization that hosts RU Letterwinner pre-game festivities) has to pay for alcohol are your events. This read as your reasoning/defense/excuse for why those costs are passed on to Letterwinners--cash bar as opposed to open bar.
Being somewhat tied to the hospitality world, I posted what various stages of "open bar" would ACTUALLY cost your organization in putting your events on. And then, as is my way, made a snarky comment about RU's inability to pony up $2-3k a weekend to provide said open bar.
I wasn't tying anything to Michigan. Michigan would never consider throwing an event for letterwinners and then feeding them bologna on white bread and expecting them to pay for a bottle of Schlitz (see I did it again
)Hudson, then just so you know our general policy, which most feel is a good and fair one, is to not invest $$ in alcohol but other projects worthy of support. Soft drinks fine as a matter if practicality..alcohol is a different area.
Also to inform you better, in the past and on certain occasions we did have beer available at no cost because it was donated by one of our members. However because of contracts made by our former AD we are unable to do this in certain areas which includes the stadium location where the halftime receptions are held and any pregame event around the stadium area. These are the facts you should know which I hope clarifies our situation and position.
If you would like to sponsor something feel free to let us know and we'll see if it complies with the guidelines and restrictions we now have to work under and especially when it comes to serving alcohol. Food is another key issue as in the past we were able to use University Catering for which we never had any complaints regarding food, pricing and services provided I know because I personally handled this and received many compliments for the buffet we would offer to our members and their guests.
To borrow a word used by Koleszar...we are "appalled" as to what we now have to go through and work with.
Also to inform you better, in the past and on certain occasions we did have beer available at no cost because it was donated by one of our members. However because of contracts made by our former AD we are unable to do this in certain areas which includes the stadium location where the halftime receptions are held and any pregame event around the stadium area. These are the facts you should know which I hope clarifies our situation and position.
If you would like to sponsor something feel free to let us know and we'll see if it complies with the guidelines and restrictions we now have to work under and especially when it comes to serving alcohol. Food is another key issue as in the past we were able to use University Catering for which we never had any complaints regarding food, pricing and services provided I know because I personally handled this and received many compliments for the buffet we would offer to our members and their guests.
To borrow a word used by Koleszar...we are "appalled" as to what we now have to go through and work with.
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