Mike Leach taking a shot at Croom?

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A lot of people think that if you run it between the tackles you need to be knighted as the saint of offense or something just because you're really boring and people have seen it a lot ... Actually, you just don't have any imagination and that's just an alibi for your failure to score as many points as somebody else.

Saw that on David Brandt's blog in the CL, and it made me think of Croom and his must establish the run up the middle attitude.
 

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I agree Croom didnt have an imagination. Much worse than that. When we used a little imagination or trickery our passes were vastly underthrown and we sucked as usual
 

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Is that from a movie?

I seem to remember seeing a really bad movie on USA one day where all of the cars essentially came to life and started attacking people, etc. I can't remember the premise, but it was bad. I watched it, and I seem to remember the main 18 wheeler looking something like that. It's been a few years. If that's the movie, refresh my memory.
 

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That's freaking Maximum Overdrive, one of the most awesome movies ever made, set to a killer soundtrack by AC/DC.

/it was a comet that made everything come to life
 

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yes, its from a pretty terrible movie (as stated by Optimus Prime) but I liked it when I was younger.

The truck is pretty crazy and hilarious at the same time though.

(directed by Stephen King btw)
 

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I couldn't remember the name or how it all happened, but I remembered the killer cars and that truck in particular.

I remember thinking while I was watching it that it was a stupid premise, but at the same time I couldn't change the channel. I'm assuming it falls in the cult classic category.
 

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RebelBruiser said:
I couldn't remember the name or how it all happened, but I remembered the killer cars and that truck in particular.

I remember thinking while I was watching it that it was a stupid premise, but at the same time I couldn't change the channel. I'm assuming it falls in the cult classic category.

which by default makes USA a perfect fit for it.

You'd be surprised at the following it has when you google it. People are crazy for it. I do wish it would come on again sometime. Netflix..........
 
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I heard the interview live and he sounded like he was tired of people calling him wierd and quirky. At the tail end he sounded like he realized listeners would think he was talking about UM and quickly added on that our offense is very imaginative and complimented Nutt Austin.
 

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but frankly, all you have to do is watch a bowl game, ANY bowl game, to see just how pathetic our offensive philosophy was during the Croom regime.

And now, that's the last time.
 

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MadBarrister said:
I heard the interview live and he sounded like he was tired of people calling him wierd and quirky. At the tail end he sounded like he realized listeners
would think he was talking about UM and quickly added on that our offense is very imaginative and complimented Nutt Austin.

other than the Wilcat, which he stole from Mahlzahn, isn't Nutt pretty much a standard old school offense type coach?
 

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Todd4State said:
MadBarrister said:
I heard the interview live and he sounded like he was tired of people calling him wierd and quirky. At the tail end he sounded like he realized listeners
would think he was talking about UM and quickly added on that our offense is very imaginative and complimented Nutt Austin.

other than the Wilcat, which he stole from Mahlzahn, isn't Nutt pretty much a standard old school offense type coach?

I've never thought Nutt was old school. He likes to run the ball, but he's never really done it in the line up and play smash mouth football way. You can be an innovative run first coach. Paul Johnson at Georgia Tech likes to run the ball all the time, but I'd say he's pretty innovative in the way he does it. Rich Rodriguez's offense at WVU was run first, but it was pretty innovative. If anything Nutt has shown over the years that he's willing to try different things with different teams. His offenses with Stoerner looked nothing like they did with Matt Jones, and his offenses with McPhadden and Felix Jones looked nothing like the offenses of Stoerner and Matt Jones. Likewise, our offense this year is different from the ones he ran at Arkansas. Some of the pieces are mixed together, but it's not the same system that he ran last year at Arkansas.

Not being innovative is doing what UT did under Fulmer, which is running the same offense for 16 years with only a few minor wrinkles thrown in from year to year, or doing what Croom did, which is try to run the same offense for 5 years even though it never worked with his personnel.
 

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Todd4State said:
MadBarrister said:
I heard the interview live and he sounded like he was tired of people calling him wierd and quirky. At the tail end he sounded like he realized listeners
would think he was talking about UM and quickly added on that our offense is very imaginative and complimented Nutt Austin.

other than the Wilcat, which he stole from Mahlzahn, isn't Nutt pretty much a standard old school offense type coach?
Can we please get away from this notion that Nutt or Malzahn invented this absurd "wildcat" formation? Snapping the ball to a running back is not new, in fact it's older than old. Has everyone lost their minds?
 

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Dawg in a pile said:
Todd4State said:
MadBarrister said:
I heard the interview live and he sounded like he was tired of people calling him wierd and quirky. At the tail end he sounded like he realized listeners

would think he was talking about UM and quickly added on that our offense is very imaginative and complimented Nutt Austin.

other than the Wilcat, which he stole from Mahlzahn, isn't Nutt pretty much a standard old school offense type coach?
Can we please get away from this notion that Nutt or Malzahn invented this absurd "wildcat" formation? Snapping the ball to a running back is not new, in fact it's older than old. Has everyone lost their minds?

Technically no one ever invents a new offense. They just adapt and make changes to old ideas. The triple option has been around forever, but what Paul Johnson is doing with it is innovative.

Running a "Wildcat" formation like Fulmer and UT did where they snap the ball to a RB and run right or run left without any misdirection is not innovative. Snapping the ball to a RB and using motion, fakes, passes, and misdirection is innovative. The best offensive coaches are the ones that can come up with new ways to improve upon existing plays and formations and coaches that are able to take plays and formations that are working elsewhere and bring them into their own offense.

Edited to add: What Fulmer was doing at UT was essentially just the single wing from a different formation. Snap it and run student body right or left. What Urban Meyer was doing with his Tebow-smash play is old school single wing offense. The adaptations off the Tebow-smash (ex. the jump pass) are not old school single wing. Snapping to a RB from a spread with options is not the same as the old single wing.
 

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that he stole the idea to run that formation from Mahlzahn, not that Mahlzahn invented it. I do credit them for bringing it back into the national spotlight.
 

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Todd4State said:
that he stole the idea to run that formation from Mahlzahn, not that Mahlzahn invented it. I do credit them for bringing it back into the national spotlight.
DMac brought it back to the national spotlight. He was such a threat to run that he threw a few touchdown passes out of it. Other than that it's really of no significance. The Dolphins tried it for about a minute and it worked because no one within their right minds would run such nonsense in the NFL.
 

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in fact, Ronnie Brown missed a wide open WR for a touchdown on a pass against the Jets. It was also run by many other NFL teams this year.