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RocketDawg

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that kids these days are doing badly in school because the moms work and don't have time for the kids. I'm not sure what the consensus opinion of the governor is in Mississippi, but I suppose he must be well liked by most since he was elected. Apparently he's not afraid to express opinions that are not "politically correct".

In this case, I totally agree with him, but Mutt may be the only person on here who agrees with me. I think kids need a mom's nurturing when they're young and that's next to impossible to do if she'd gone all the time.
 

coach66

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He is going to get killed for saying it but

There is little doubt he is right. I've seen it myself with my own family. He probably should not have singled out the mother but just said when one parent dedicates their working time to the development of their children it makes a big difference.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Mark it down - Gene Taylor will beat him in 2015. Phil just puts his foot in his mouth too often to beat a strong opponent. He's never faced one before.
 
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thatsbaseball

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He should have just said...We can build fine schools and hire highly educated teachers but we can`t develop kids into good students and later good citizens by ourselves. It`s never worked that way and never will.......and moved on to the next subject.
 
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I agree in what he is saying. He just butchered it so bad that it came out sounding terrible. Parents have to play a part in a child's education but it can be really tough when both work.
 

Palos verdes

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This is correct, most mothers are single and often lose control of their kids at

an early age because of it. I've also seen many situations where the mother spends a lot more time maintaining her social life than concerning herself with her children. This is neglect and it's very very harmful for kids. I don't really have a good feel on Gov. Bryant yet, but he is mostly correct here. But it's not the root of the problem.
 

00Dawg

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As a husband lucky enough to find a stay-at-home wife with old-school values, I'd like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude for her consistently taking the time to educate our children above and beyond the minimum required for school. I can't speak to whether having a working mother hurts a child's education (my mother remarried just before I started kindergarten) but I can say from experience that the opposite can absolutely help.
 

Shmuley

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Poor Phil. There just wasn't enough money on the preacher circuit.
 

Lawdawg.sixpack

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They would do fine in school, if we would quit teaching them lies about Christopher Columbus.

/chokwe
 

bulldogbaja

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I'm pretty sure there's significant social data backing this up... This has been a pretty well-known theory for awhile now.
 

mstateglfr

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that kids these days are doing badly in school because the moms work and don't have time for the kids. I'm not sure what the consensus opinion of the governor is in Mississippi, but I suppose he must be well liked by most since he was elected. Apparently he's not afraid to express opinions that are not "politically correct".

In this case, I totally agree with him, but Mutt may be the only person on here who agrees with me. I think kids need a mom's nurturing when they're young and that's next to impossible to do if she'd gone all the time.

Nevermind whether or not this is being PC, what about the way it portrays half of the voting public? His comments put the burden on women, which is shortsighted. Blaming women, especially moms, for their child's education difficulties should not be tolerated.

It is NOT a man's place to work and it is NOT a woman's place to raise the children. It is the parent's responsibility, together, to make sure the family is safe, cared for, and educated. Whatever is required to accomplish those things should be applauded.
Unfortunately, many times one of the 3 things needs to take a back seat, and it all too often becomes the child's education. In order to provide safe living and care, often times both parents have to work. And in Mississippi, there are simply too many single parents(most all being mothers) to say its the mother's fault their child is doing poorly in school because they work. That is just a no win position to put single mothers in. They are already stretched thin and typically struggle to balance everything for their family-to then place the responsibility on them for their child doing poorly accomplishes nothing.


I am sure the single mom knows damn well that their taking time away from 1 on 1 child time has an affect on the child's education. But something has to break and its either work less and spend more time with the kid, which means worse housing situation or less financial stability. Or work more which means a higher chance of safety and financial stability for the family.


The real issues here are:
- The desire by parents to give everything they can to their kids, both material and experience, which costs $ and forces both parents to work.
- The desire by parents to have more stuff for themselves and their family to enjoy in the fleeting hours each week when all are together, which costs $ and forces both parents to work.
- The reality that 1 income is not an option in most parts of the country(Mississippi excluded in many areas, included in some) to live an average life, not even an extravegant one.
- 1 income reduces the ability to pay for future costs such as college, healthcare, and retirement. With these all rising at huge rates, 2 incomes better the odds of attaining the necessary financial levels for future spending.
- In single parent households, the father is largely absent. Fixing this systemic social issue will help education levels all across the country.


Yes the families maybe not having more kids than they can reasonably handle on 1 income would help, but that would leave most families(with the exception of the very well off) struggling later in life when their nestegg is small and cant sustain the retirement years.
Yes women could stop having kids with guys they arent actually committed to. No argument from me, I cant even imagine this actually happening to me, but hey, im uncool and dont hit the discos on the weekend. Until this happens though, the women are the heads of many households and simply dont need more weight on their shoulders.
Yes men could stop having kids with women they arent actually committed to. And just as important- they could not be total asses and instead they could actually help financially support their kid(s). THAT is where a lot of blame needs to be placed, at the foot of asses who arent involved in the lives of their kids, both emotionally involved and finanically involved.
 

hatfieldms

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My wife and I both work and still have time to work with our kids at night

Sorry, but most families don't have a choice but to have both parents working. You just have to do your kart at night and the school system also has to do their part
 

ckDOG

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You mean it's not just the woman's fault?///

Nevermind whether or not this is being PC, what about the way it portrays half of the voting public? His comments put the burden on women, which is shortsighted. Blaming women, especially moms, for their child's education difficulties should not be tolerated.

It is NOT a man's place to work and it is NOT a woman's place to raise the children. It is the parent's responsibility, together, to make sure the family is safe, cared for, and educated. Whatever is required to accomplish those things should be applauded.
Unfortunately, many times one of the 3 things needs to take a back seat, and it all too often becomes the child's education. In order to provide safe living and care, often times both parents have to work. And in Mississippi, there are simply too many single parents(most all being mothers) to say its the mother's fault their child is doing poorly in school because they work. That is just a no win position to put single mothers in. They are already stretched thin and typically struggle to balance everything for their family-to then place the responsibility on them for their child doing poorly accomplishes nothing.


I am sure the single mom knows damn well that their taking time away from 1 on 1 child time has an affect on the child's education. But something has to break and its either work less and spend more time with the kid, which means worse housing situation or less financial stability. Or work more which means a higher chance of safety and financial stability for the family.


The real issues here are:
- The desire by parents to give everything they can to their kids, both material and experience, which costs $ and forces both parents to work.
- The desire by parents to have more stuff for themselves and their family to enjoy in the fleeting hours each week when all are together, which costs $ and forces both parents to work.
- The reality that 1 income is not an option in most parts of the country(Mississippi excluded in many areas, included in some) to live an average life, not even an extravegant one.
- 1 income reduces the ability to pay for future costs such as college, healthcare, and retirement. With these all rising at huge rates, 2 incomes better the odds of attaining the necessary financial levels for future spending.
- In single parent households, the father is largely absent. Fixing this systemic social issue will help education levels all across the country.


Yes the families maybe not having more kids than they can reasonably handle on 1 income would help, but that would leave most families(with the exception of the very well off) struggling later in life when their nestegg is small and cant sustain the retirement years.
Yes women could stop having kids with guys they arent actually committed to. No argument from me, I cant even imagine this actually happening to me, but hey, im uncool and dont hit the discos on the weekend. Until this happens though, the women are the heads of many households and simply dont need more weight on their shoulders.
Yes men could stop having kids with women they arent actually committed to. And just as important- they could not be total asses and instead they could actually help financially support their kid(s). THAT is where a lot of blame needs to be placed, at the foot of asses who arent involved in the lives of their kids, both emotionally involved and finanically involved.

Blasphemy!///////

Nice post. I agree with all of it. If the Governor is going to point fingers at a group of people to blame for our uneducated children, he should probably start with fathers who abandon their children. Single mothers raising a child is a very different beast than a mother working in a 2 parent household. It's a huge problem. If he wants to call out poor life decisions that result in one person raising a child, he's got the green light from me.

However, he should probably stray from statements that appear as if he's implying a woman's place is in the home making babies and sammiches. 2 working parent families can raise children just fine. You know who doesn't raise children well? ****** parents. A ****** mother or father is going to be a ****** mother or father whether he/she spends 8 hours a day at home or in an office.
 
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Wizard.sixpack

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100% agree and would add that the reason kids end up in trouble with the law is Dad wasn't there enough to beat their *** when they were little.
 

Jimbob Cooter

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Nice lib-tard spin in here:

- In single parent households, the father is largely absent. Fixing this systemic social issue will help education levels all across the country................................................................................Yes men could stop having kids with women they arent actually committed to. And just as important- they could not be total asses and instead they could actually help financially support their kid(s). THAT is where a lot of blame needs to be placed, at the foot of asses who arent involved in the lives of their kids, both emotionally involved and finanically involved.

Those ******* fathers.

Yes women could stop having kids with guys they arent actually committed to. No argument from me, I cant even imagine this actually happening to me, but hey, im uncool and dont hit the discos on the weekend. Until this happens though, the women are the heads of many households and simply dont need more weight on their shoulders.

Oh, the poor little innocent mothers.

Give me a break. We could try solving the divorce problem, which is initiated 90% of the time by those poor innocent single mothers.
 

Jimbob Cooter

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Single mothers raising a child is a very different beast than a mother working in a 2 parent household. It's a huge problem.

What is the percentage of single mothers working and raising children? VERY small.

Most single mothers are either on welfare or being supported by a cuckold beta male provider. While they are out riding the cock carousel.
 

Jimbob Cooter

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100% agree and would add that the reason kids end up in trouble with the law is Dad wasn't there enough to beat their *** when they were little.

But it's not always the dad's fault that he's not there. Perhaps in the black urban community this holds true. But that's not the majority.
 

MadDawg.sixpack

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I think the dads should start being stay-at-home parents and the women should work and support the family and pursue her career. And if she has a problem with it she's being a selfish *****.
 
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Both of my parents worked all throughout my time in school. It's about the parent's character, not if they work. There were several times my mom or dad would stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning helping me do a project or study for a test.
 
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To add to that

I think the dads should start being stay-at-home parents and the women should work and support the family and pursue her career. And if she has a problem with it she's being a selfish *****.

all golf courses should be mandated to have day care, which is included in greens fees
 

mstateglfr

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Nice lib-tard spin in here:



Those ******* fathers.



Oh, the poor little innocent mothers.

Give me a break. We could try solving the divorce problem, which is initiated 90% of the time by those poor innocent single mothers.

Wow, overreact a bit?

I am shocked that I was just called a 'lib-tard'. Thats a first. Interesting combo word there.
I am neither liberal nor retarded, for the record.


And yes, men who do not take financial and emotional responsibility in parenting their children are asses. They assist in continuing one of the biggest socioeconomic issues in our country today.
Also, I dont give the women a pass and certainly dont call them 'poor little innocent mothers'.
In fact, I said- Yes women could stop having kids with guys they arent actually committed to. No argument from me,
I am not sure how you could read the bold sentence above and mockingly respond that I think they are poor little innocent mothers.

My point was that the mother is statistically the one who is the primary care taker and who is having to make the difficult decisions concerning work/life balance.




I dont even know what to say to your comment that 90% of divorces are initiated by the poor innocent single monthers. It doesnt make sense and you dont provide any evidence to back up the confusing comment that has come out of left field.
 

mstateglfr

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What is the percentage of single mothers working and raising children? VERY small.

Most single mothers are either on welfare or being supported by a cuckold beta male provider. While they are out riding the cock carousel.

Ok, lets see the stats for these baseless comments.
Exactly what % of single mothers are working? Define 'VERY small'.
Exactly what % of single mothers are being supported by a 'cuckold beta male provider'?
Exactly what % of single mothers are 'out riding the cock carousel'?
 

Wizard.sixpack

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But it's not always the dad's fault that he's not there. Perhaps in the black urban community this holds true. But that's not the majority.

didn't say it was dad's fault....but it is what it is. Perhaps I should change what I said to: Dad is not doing any discipline when he is there.
 
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