Mississippi State better than Oregon?

PhredPhantom

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Auburn scored 22 points on Oregon, the # 2 team in the country & beat them by 4. They scored 17 on Mississippi State & beat them by 3.

Just sayin'
 

PhredPhantom

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Auburn scored 22 points on Oregon, the # 2 team in the country & beat them by 4. They scored 17 on Mississippi State & beat them by 3.

Just sayin'
 

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I would be willing to bet that we are capable of beating them, but I don't know if we're a better team. Also, we held Cam to 17 before his talents were truly being exploited.
 

Incognegro

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I'm happy with where we're at. The future seems bright. I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but it seems highly probable that we're just going to continue to get better. There's no doubt in my mind that we're a top 15 caliber team. A lot of the teams that's going to be ranked ahead of us don't deserve to be, but we are a damn good team.
 

Arthur2478

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PhredPhantom said:
Auburn scored 22 points on Oregon, the # 2 team in the country & beat them by 4.

Last time I checked, 22-19 was a 3 point difference.
 

whitedog

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Lets not play this game. I hated it in '08 when Florida won and some of my bear friends kept talking about how they were better than the national champions. It was so stupid.
 

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MStateDawg said:
PhredPhantom said:
Auburn scored 22 points on Oregon, the # 2 team in the country & beat them by 4.

Last time I checked, 22-19 was a 3 point difference.
Touche' Your math is correct.

I typed this from my phone last night after midnight; not a good time for me to be addin' and subtractin'. Still, it's an interesting bit of trivia.

The earlier comment by another sixpacker about us playing Auburn at a point in the season that was before they had fully realized how to best utilize the mule can also be applied to MSU, too. At the second game of the season, we hadn't fully developed the best use of Elliot and Ballard. Relf also got better at passing and making decisions as the season progressed. Auburn is not the only team that got better.
 

Incognegro

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In my eyes, we're both completely different teams at the end of the season. Because of the differences, it's hard to say how we would stack up against them. Did they make a bigger leap then us or did we have more improvement over all? It's just a hard thing to assess right now.
 

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whitedog said:
Lets not play this game. I hated it in '08 when Florida won and some of my bear friends kept talking about how they were better than the national champions. It was so stupid.
This was my thoughts exactly^ Bears fans drove around with bumper stickers that year saying Ole Miss 31 - National Champs 30. Don't be like them.
 

JohnDawg

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And we hadn't fully developed the best use for Elliot? Did you even watch our team this year? The best role for Elliot is to sit his *** on the bench. He's horrible. Take your sunshine elsewhere.
 
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I'd say the bears have a genuine reason to gloat a little bit. They didn't have a national championship caliber team that year as proven by their losses, but they certainly can claim that they were one of the better teams in 2008. Denying that would be idiotic.
 

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This is stupid to talk about and we would probably get beat by Oregon. Oregon went undefeated and lost to the national champs on a last second field goal, give me a break.
 

PhredPhantom

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JohnDawg said:
And we hadn't fully developed the best use for Elliot? Did you even watch our team this year? The best role for Elliot is to sit his *** on the bench. He's horrible. Take your sunshine elsewhere.
As a matter of fact, I was at every home game and was at the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville. I believe that Elliot made contributions this year and improved, even if not as much as perhaps we had hoped for. Horrible? - No. Could be better? - Yes. Best role is on the bench? - I disagree. While his season was not as good as Ballard's, he did contribute and got better as the season progressed.
 

whitedog

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I'd say the bears have a genuine reason to gloat a little bit. They didn't have a national championship caliber team that year as proven by their losses, but they certainly can claim that they were one of the better teams in 2008. Denying that would be idiotic.
I agree, but where you are wrong is on the "gloat a little bit." The guys I was talking about acted like they actually were national champs that year. They claim they have 3 national championships and dont have any. Hell, on the side of their stadium it says "2003 SEC Western Division Champions." Every egg bowl in oxford, I love asking the closest rebel about that. I say, "Who did yall play in Atlanta that year?"
 

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then your and dubmass. He played in mop up time. Let Ballard, Relf, and Perkins handle the rushing and let Elliot get them water and a towel when they need it.</p>
 

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Auburn was the 9th best SEC team in total defense, yet they held this "unstoppable" Oregon offense to 19 points. State's defense was just as good, if not better (holding Denard to 14 points, Cam to 17, etc.) so it's really a question of whether MSU could put up 21 or more against Oregon's defense? I'm no homer, but I think they could.<div>
</div><div>Oregon's lack of size got exposed last night. The score was closer than it should have been. They got physically manhandled on the line of scrimmage. I could see State's O-line & D-line feasting on them (and just about every other SEC West team as well).</div>
 

1549 miles away

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I bleed maroon and white, but it's not very likely that a 15th ranked team is "better" than a 2nd ranked team at the end of the season. I guess it makes some people feel good about themselves to make such claims. Take a nationwide poll that excludes MSU fans and see what kind of result you get on this question. I prefer to boast when we actually EARN the ranking as opposed to speculating our way to a national championship. Besides, we all know Boise State is really the best team in the nation.
 

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To me what improved about Au. was their use of other players. No 5 comes to mind and the gut I don't know his number was in the 40's catching passes. However the way we will miss Manny I think will be in adjustments and if we played Au. now and still had Manny his adjustments may win us the game.