Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

[Coach34]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

look at these numbers from the last 2 classes:<div></div><div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">
</div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">
</div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">Nutt blamed many of the problems from today on attrition from years past within the program. Yet only 15 members of the infamous 37-player class of 2009 remain on the team, and only seven of them have started multiple games this season. Nine members of the class of 2010 are also no longer a part of the program.

- of 62 signees from 2009 and 2010, 24 are not part of the program today - 39%.</div></div>

 

[Coach34]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

look at these numbers from the last 2 classes:<div></div><div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">
</div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">
</div><div id="post_message_471508" style="font-family: verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 255); ">Nutt blamed many of the problems from today on attrition from years past within the program. Yet only 15 members of the infamous 37-player class of 2009 remain on the team, and only seven of them have started multiple games this season. Nine members of the class of 2010 are also no longer a part of the program.

- of 62 signees from 2009 and 2010, 24 are not part of the program today - 39%.</div></div>

 

[coach66]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

reason for their fall. Chasing stars to impress fans is a loosing proposition without placing proper emphasis on a kids character and work ethic.

 

[Seinfeld]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

The only two I can think of right now are Conner and Thames. Even if you count McKenzie which probably isn't fair, that's only three.

I haven't read the exact quotes from Nutt, but if he was trying to blame attrition as if he's not a part of that problem, that's pathetic.

 

[thunderclap]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

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[Foronce]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Mardrecas Hood - never came
Billy Hamilton - baseball never came

Leon Berry - graduated
Maurice Langston - graduated
Pernell McPhee - graduated
Chris White - graduated
Sean Brauchle - graduated
Heath Hutchins - graduated

Montrell Conner - left team, at troy now ...was at co-lin
Dennis Thames - left team, at eccc
Jeff Howie - who knows
Jonathan McKenzie - quit

not enough room or sign and placed
Paul Crawford - FIU
Jeremy Lee - was at hinds, not sure not on roster
Shaq Perry - given up football
Justin Cox - still recruiting him at EMCC


meanwhile 30 have put on a redshirt here, if you count reed gordon (walk--on who earn scholly before season started.)

 

[Chuck Cunningham]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

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[Chuck Cunningham]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

We could use him.<div>
</div><div>/cast</div>

 

[RebelBruiser]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

The 2009 class had 37 or 38 signees, and you knew at least 8 of them were headed Juco, likely to never come back, so I don't know if I consider that in the same light as other attrition. That said, the 2009 class still had too much of the real kind of bad attrition too with guys like Grandy, Barksdale, Patterson, Drummond, and Rodney Scott. Those were all players that were going to play significant amounts and left or were kicked off for various reasons. You're going to lose some players like a Junaid that just aren't good enough and transfer for playing time. That's good attrition, and you're going to have guys that are sign and place if you sign 37.

Still, that's too much bad attrition from one class. Losing 1 or 2 real contributors from a class at most is about all you can take. That class lost at least 5 that were going to contribute. And no I don't count Raymond Cotton as bad attrition. He fits the good attrition category since he left due to not being able to beat out the current competition at his position.

The 2010 class lost Delvin Jones, Tony Grimes, and Clarence Jackson in what I would call bad attrition. Again that was too much, but not quite as bad as the 2009 class.

The 2011 class, so far, looks to be really good and deep. Hopefully we'll avoid the attrition out of that class, because it's strong enough to sustain us in the future. I still think the 2010 class, despite the losses it has had, is decent. The problem is we're going to follow those two classes with a transition class after firing a coach this year, so even if we keep the rest of the 2010 and 2011 classes together, we'll be able to recover some in the near future, but we'll have a bumpy road not long after that before settling in. That's why we need to hire someone like a Morris or Malzahn that can manufacture offense given just a handful of playmakers, which we have.

 

[Seinfeld]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Not sure what to think about that one...

 

[whereisomaha.sixpack]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Very impressive coach

 

[Chuck Cunningham]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Good luck against UK. I'm serious.

 

[Coach34]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

we play a nobody this week and I'm tired of talking LSU-Bama with my 2 friends<div>
</div><div>Seems about everything I said about YOUR team in July-August has come to fruition huh?</div>

 

[JxnDawg39211]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

where is he these days? God thats fun to say.. Mike Hunt ...hehehehehe

 

[Syd and Harrys]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Youhaveadiseasedbrainku

 

[FlabLoser]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Didn't you learn that last year?

 

[Foronce]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

I only did it since 2009 class..

lots have left from 2008 and 2007 classes

 

[Coach34]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

I said about Mississippi in July/August:<div>
</div><div>This was Nutts last season before being fired</div><div>4 wins max</div><div>below average WR corp</div><div>lack of QB play would kill offense</div><div>defense would be no better and likely worse this season</div><div>could possibly go 0-8 in the SEC</div><div>
</div><div>Basically I have been about as spot-on as one could be on Mississippi</div><div>
</div><div>I said about Mississippi State:</div><div>
</div><div>10-2 was possible- 9-3 likely</div><div>Defense would not miss Diaz</div><div>Our DL and Secondary play would help compensate for inexperienced LB's</div><div>our WR's would be better</div><div>Relf would have a great season</div><div>Ballard/Perkins > Bolden/Scott</div><div>Carmon at LT would be fine</div><div>
</div><div>I underestimated our lack of depth on the OL- I certainly admit that. Losing 2 guys on the OL in games 2 and 3 this season has cost us dearly, and we are just now starting to recover. Carmon has played well at LT, when healthy enough to play. But OL injuries cost us the Auburn and SC games- putting us at 4-4 instead of the 6-2 we should be heading into this Saturday. So, while off some, I wasnt that far off. It happens.</div><div>
</div><div>3 in a row coming *****- you better get ready</div><div>
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[bsquared24]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

The 2009 class had 37 or 38 signees, and you knew at least 8 of them were headed Juco, likely to never come back

wow, use all 37 to win that mythical recruiting battle and star count but dump em overboard when it doesn't suit the conversation.

 

[Daddy Rabbit Dawg]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

According to what I found, in 2009, OM signed 37 and 20 are no longer there. In 2010, they signed 25 and 11 are no longer there. That's 50% that are gone from those two classes. In 2009, none of the ones that stayed were JUCO. In 2010, three (Dorsey, Mackey, Dam. Jackson) were JUCO. Of the ones that stayed, 10 are on the two deep from 2009 and 12 are on the two deep from 2010. They actually have more (13) on the two deep from the 2011 class than the previous two. Also, they signed 8 JUCO in the 2011 class and 5 are on the two deep roster. Their numbers are so convoluted and out of whack it's scary. Nutt screwed the 2009 class horribly and it's effected the next two severely.

 

[Syd and Harrys]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

That was the closing line of your prediction. No qualifiers, no "probably" no "maybe." Don't back down now, corch.<div>
</div><div>You should have listened to some of the Rebels reservations about your OL, DE play, and Relf's possible regression. Most UM folks made better assessments of your team than you did.</div><div>
</div><div>Regardless, you SHOULD make it three in a row, if for no other reason than you maroons owe us a favor for Croom.
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[dawgstudent]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

 

[Syd and Harrys]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Make it three TDs and don't take a knee. Then tell Mullen to do the "Houston, you've got something on your shirt" thing at mid-field.

 

[dawgstudent]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

 

[FlabLoser]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

takeittothehouseku

 

[RebelBruiser]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

The 2009 class had 37 or 38 signees, and you knew at least 8 of them were headed Juco, likely to never come back

wow, use all 37 to win that mythical recruiting battle and star count but dump em overboard when it doesn't suit the conversation.

Well, if all you care about are rankings, that's fine. I personally think Nutt's strategy with signing so many sign and places was to help him create some ties with the Juco coaches in the area, not necessarily to get those guys back.

If you buy into star rankings, you'd have noticed that most of the sign and places were lower rated players anyway. Guys like Houston, Smiley, Ferrell, Kellum, Knight, Hunter, and Phillips weren't signed to bolster our recruiting rankings, and it would be hard to argue that given that they actually reduced the average star rating of that class. The higher rated guys that fell out of that class were either attitude/discipline/homesick issues (Hornsby, Barksdale, Patterson, Drummond, Scott) or guys that just didn't cut it (Cotton). Most all of them enrolled outside of Hornsby, who didn't enroll because he couldn't stay out of jail.

As I said, having players not enroll because they went Juco isn't a bad thing, and that class would've been pretty good even with the Juco enrollees. The problem was we had way too much bad attrition from guys that were contributing or were going to contribute, and that has really hurt our depth when you consider it directly followed a poor 08 transition class.

Mix in average to poor coaching decisions with those issues, and you have a team that's playing for 11th place in the SEC this Saturday. I just hope the young classes don't get discouraged and start leaving because of the coaching change or the losing this year, because they've got a shot to be pretty good as a group if they'll stick around.

 

[GloryDawg]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

Ole Miss is a really bad football team.

 

[slickdawg]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

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[slickdawg]

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[tenureplan]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

nm

 

[Todd4State]

Mississippi's future isnt getting any brighter even with all their "recruiting"

why isn't Nutt bringing those players back to Ole Miss?

JUCO's get a ton of guys every year without your sloppy seconds. What helps a JUCO program is when they put guys in the SEC and then later in the NFL.