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<blockquote data-quote="GoWVU" data-source="post: 129292293" data-attributes="member: 1457561"><p>Since you're joining the discussion late, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume you missed it upthread where skygusty and I said this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In other words, I agree the Big 12 leadership is not that bad yet...but these are some troubling developments.</p><p></p><p>You are making the mistake of assuming anyone discussing this subject is talking about "point shaving" just in the gambling context. We're talking about it primarily from a competitive standpoint, because that's what the tiebreaker forces coaches to do in order to prevail in the tiebreaker.</p><p></p><p>The Big 12 is about to adopt a tiebreaker that, in a 3-team tie, virtually eliminates the team who does the <em>best</em> in a point-differential comparison while the 2 teams who did <em>worse</em> are still alive to prevail and be declared conference champion. There is no situation in which that makes sense. It is a competitive failure for the coaches, players, and fans.</p><p></p><p>For anyone here who is still unaware of this looming problem, do not take my word for it. Read for yourself at the following links:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/99020/big-12-mailbag-tiebreaker-concerns-more-predictions">http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/99020/big-12-mailbag-tiebreaker-concerns-more-predictions</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/354rgy/new_big_xii_tiebreak_is_a_recipe_for_point_shaving/">http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/354rgy/new_big_xii_tiebreak_is_a_recipe_for_point_shaving/</a></p><p></p><p>Had the new tiebreaker been in place in 2008, it basically would have allowed Bob Stoops to choose which opposing team he wanted to advance to the Big 12 title game between Texas and Texas Tech. Anyone with a brain who isn't being a sarcastic naysayer should easily be able to see why this new tiebreaker is such a disaster in waiting. Unfortunately our conference administrators don't seem to be among them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoWVU, post: 129292293, member: 1457561"] Since you're joining the discussion late, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume you missed it upthread where skygusty and I said this: In other words, I agree the Big 12 leadership is not that bad yet...but these are some troubling developments. You are making the mistake of assuming anyone discussing this subject is talking about "point shaving" just in the gambling context. We're talking about it primarily from a competitive standpoint, because that's what the tiebreaker forces coaches to do in order to prevail in the tiebreaker. The Big 12 is about to adopt a tiebreaker that, in a 3-team tie, virtually eliminates the team who does the [I]best[/I] in a point-differential comparison while the 2 teams who did [I]worse[/I] are still alive to prevail and be declared conference champion. There is no situation in which that makes sense. It is a competitive failure for the coaches, players, and fans. For anyone here who is still unaware of this looming problem, do not take my word for it. Read for yourself at the following links: [URL]http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/99020/big-12-mailbag-tiebreaker-concerns-more-predictions[/URL] [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/354rgy/new_big_xii_tiebreak_is_a_recipe_for_point_shaving/[/URL] Had the new tiebreaker been in place in 2008, it basically would have allowed Bob Stoops to choose which opposing team he wanted to advance to the Big 12 title game between Texas and Texas Tech. Anyone with a brain who isn't being a sarcastic naysayer should easily be able to see why this new tiebreaker is such a disaster in waiting. Unfortunately our conference administrators don't seem to be among them. [/QUOTE]
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