MLB robo-ump is glorious

ckDOG

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
 
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The Peeper

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Its not the balls and strikes that I am concerned with, its the damn appeals on the base paths. Sunday's game at The Dude was ridiculous, Delaware wore out their appeals and we weren't far behind. That video didn't take 10 or 15 seconds tops, when the umps have to wander down the tunnel into the locker rooms at The Dude it takes minutes.......
 
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CochiseCowbell

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.

This was an awesome game though.

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PBRME

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
40 years later I still want to punch ******* Don Dekinger.
 

MagnoliaHunter

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
I have never disagreed with a post so much. Human error should NEVER be a part of sports offciating if it can be removed, ESPECIALLY balls and strikes.
 

PBRME

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And no robot should ever take that away from you. Part of the human experience!
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onewoof

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  • Who can challenge: Only the batter, catcher, or pitcher can initiate a challenge by tapping their head.
  • Limits: Each team gets two challenges per game, but retains the challenge if the call is overturned.
  • Process: The ABS (Hawk-Eye technology) determines the exact location of the pitch relative to the strike zone, with results shown on the scoreboard.
  • Restrictions: Challenges must be made immediately; no assistance from the dugout or other players is allowed.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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  • Who can challenge: Only the batter, catcher, or pitcher can initiate a challenge by tapping their head.
  • Limits: Each team gets two challenges per game, but retains the challenge if the call is overturned.
  • Process: The ABS (Hawk-Eye technology) determines the exact location of the pitch relative to the strike zone, with results shown on the scoreboard.
  • Restrictions: Challenges must be made immediately; no assistance from the dugout or other players is allowed.
I like it, ...but we shall see.

Gonna screw some pitchers minds.
 
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patdog

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
It’s good for all the things that take several minutes to review. Big for things like ball strike calls or shots in or out in tennis that take a couple of seconds, take the human element out of it.
 

karlchilders.sixpack

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It’s good for all the things that take several minutes to review. Big for things like ball strike calls or shots in or out in tennis that take a couple of seconds, take the human element out of it.
Some umps give way too many outside, off the plate pitches as strikes. This will take some of that out of the equation.
JMO. ....And umps will generally do a better job.
 
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johnson86-1

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  • Who can challenge: Only the batter, catcher, or pitcher can initiate a challenge by tapping their head.
  • Limits: Each team gets two challenges per game, but retains the challenge if the call is overturned.
  • Process: The ABS (Hawk-Eye technology) determines the exact location of the pitch relative to the strike zone, with results shown on the scoreboard.
  • Restrictions: Challenges must be made immediately; no assistance from the dugout or other players is allowed.
Seems like that puts the pitchers in a better position. Pitchers and catchers especially it seems like will have an easier time telling when it’s a bad call than batters.

Plus how long until coaches get mad at batters blowing their teams challenges because of a bad when
 

Perd Hapley

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
Ultimately….its just like tech / AI in any other industry. Why pay millions of dollars per year to umpires when you can actually pocket that revenue as profit, increase your player payroll, or make long term investments in facilities or gameday experience to create more revenue?
 

Bulldog Bruce

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How long before there's a green or red light that flashes up instead of an ump that calls balls and strikes?
Absolutely what it should be. That was the biggest challenge to hitting good pitching. The ump screws up and gives the pitcher a strike and confuses the hitter on what they have to swing at. I would think the pitchers would prefer it also for the example in this video.

I mean I know there were one or two times that the ump called a strike a ball compared to the thousands of times they called a ball a strike during my career.
 

bolddogge

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How long before there's a green or red light that flashes up instead of an ump that calls balls and strikes?

Absolutely what it should be. That was the biggest challenge to hitting good pitching. The ump screws up and gives the pitcher a strike and confuses the hitter on what they have to swing at. I would think the pitchers would prefer it also for the example in this video.
I agree with BB. It'll also do away with catchers that feel like they have to frame EVERY SINGLE PITCH. That annoys the crap out of me. Do they really think they're fooling anybody when they drag every pitch back in the zone? There's plenty of other calls for the umps to make. Just automate this one aspect. Most major programs already have the technology anyway. Just use it!
 

POTUS

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My only question about automated balls and strikes is th height difference of players. Do Altuve & Judge have to deal with the same zone? I haven’t read up on it but how would it account for the zone changing?
 

ckDOG

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My only question about automated balls and strikes is th height difference of players. Do Altuve & Judge have to deal with the same zone? I haven’t read up on it but how would it account for the zone changing?
The zone height changes based on height of player measured in spring training. How do we know it's being used that accurately way in practice? 🤷‍♂️
 

ckDOG

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I have never disagreed with a post so much. Human error should NEVER be a part of sports offciating if it can be removed, ESPECIALLY balls and strikes.
I know I'm in the minority. But I'll miss the art of framing pitches and hitting your spots. That's part of baseball IMO. I'll be sad to see that disappear.
 

MagnoliaHunter

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I know I'm in the minority. But I'll miss the art of framing pitches and hitting your spots. That's part of baseball IMO. I'll be sad to see that disappear.
Framing pitch is a skill that would disappear. But hitting your spot should not be rewarded if your spot is 4 inches off the plate. I'm looking at you Angel Hernandez.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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when we talked about framing in the 1980s the catchers were taught to catch the ball with the glove to the outside of the plate. They were not supposed to move their glove. The reason being if you move the glove it makes the umpire think it was not over the plate. If it was a strike you don't have to move the glove. These catchers that drag every pitch, are hurting the pitcher.
 

CochiseCowbell

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when we talked about framing in the 1980s the catchers were taught to catch the ball with the glove to the outside of the plate. They were not supposed to move their glove. The reason being if you move the glove it makes the umpire think it was not over the plate. If it was a strike you don't have to move the glove. These catchers that drag every pitch, are hurting the pitcher.

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What some, really most, of them are doing now, and for the past 10 years at least, isn't framing.

Lo Tan is one of our best, if not the best, in a while & there were times I cringed even at his glove dragging to the zone.
 

o_Hot Rock

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Hot take: human error should always be part of sports. Just no organized shenanigans for spite and/or gambling. Tired of everything needing to be automated. What's next? Robot coaches? Then robot players? Sounds real exciting...

ETA: I'm fine with tech to audit the humans to see who sucks and who is good at the their job and rewarding them with better pay or games. Also fine with a reasonable amount of replay that doesn't crap on the pace of the game.
So you good with the wrong team winning that didn’t earn it. Technology is there to get this right and you don’t want fair games.. got it.
 
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