Moore, Powers, Goforth- How bad could this situation get?
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All the guys who suck have to blame someone, but it can't be the fact that they just simply aren't any good.
do we stop playing this off as pissed off sucky players and see there may be a legitimate complaint. I believe Cohen is doing what every other coach in the nation does. Of course the workouts are "voluntary" but any player that is serious about his team and career will be there.
Is it just me or does it seem like this scum of a lawyer is going down the roster and calling everyone on it? Someone without a doubt is recruiting among Polk's pussies to join the lawsuit.
that Forrest Moore would know who did and didn't like Cohen as much time as these players spent together.
but I lol'ed.<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; ">
</span></div><div>And how much time was that? And how much of it was voluntary or "voluntary"?</div>
IF Msu has the papers signed I can't think any court would rule in a pussies case against Cohen! Sounds more like sour grapes, Powers was a flop who transferred, Goforth couldn't break an egg with his swing, way over-rated and Moore was a kid who way over-rated as well.
As for what you say Todd, I'm sure those kids were "punched in the gut" when Polk left and Cohen came in! I just don't get it, IF there was a problem in 2008 then why didn't the mofo's step forward then?
As for what you say Todd, I'm sure those kids were "punched in the gut" when Polk left and Cohen came in! I just don't get it, IF there was a problem in 2008 then why didn't the mofo's step forward then?
winners aren't going to come out and complain about hard work. Only 17ing pussies who suck will.
Mandatory = I'll throw you off the team tomorrow if you don't show up for this mandatory practice.
Voluntary = Don't expect to play this year or have a guaranteed scholarship next year if you're not at this voluntary practice.
BFB
Voluntary = Don't expect to play this year or have a guaranteed scholarship next year if you're not at this voluntary practice.
BFB
basedog said:
none of them had the brains to hatch the idea "Hey! We could sue Cohen!" at the time until some Ole Miss lawyer likely sought out Dana Moore-and I will admit, I have no idea who went to whom first, but this is the same guy that is doing the cowbell lawsuit sueing the SEC for "not following their rules", so my money is on the lawyer- after we started winning and people realized that we were going to become a good baseball program and not a bunch of pushovers who were trying to be "classy".
Could it be that Polk has
inserted himself in the Moore case telling his former players to back-up
the suit because of "integrity" and retribution
on Cohen/Byrne?
inserted himself in the Moore case telling his former players to back-up
the suit because of "integrity" and retribution
on Cohen/Byrne?
Could that be why Polk was hiding in the bushes, to see how big bad Cohen was treating his boys?
As much as I despise him, I don't think Polk has anything to do with this. I thought he had forgiven Cohen for taking the job (not that Cohen had done anything to need to be forgiven for, but we're talking about Polk's crazy-*** mind here) and Byrne is gone.
is the fact that Russ McNickle is Ryan Powers' current head coach. Frankie Rawdow is also on the team. Why would McNickle allow a CURRENT player to put his name on the record in a pending lawsuit, especially when the defendant is the current head coach of his old employer? The whole Ron Polk thing may not be too far off base. </p>
He got over John getting it pretty quickly, but he really, really hated Byrne. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Polk drops the UAB thing next year and comes back to Starkville to hang around, glad hand, etc next year now that Cohen has some firmer footing with the SR appearance.
before he backs up Forrest Moore. Dana Moore gave Polk and Russ McNickle trouble about how he was handling Forrest when they were the coaches.
The bottom line here is Dana Moore is a prick. It wouldn't matter if Nolan Ryan was our pitching coach.
And what Dana conveniently leaves out of his little lawsuit is that Forrest was originally hurt when Polk was our coach. Forrest missed some games his freshman year because of some sort of injury.
The honest truth here is this- this is really between Dana Moore and Cohen than anything. Polk has nothing to do with this.
And if you think about it- Polk is very outspoken about things that he feels are wrong. Look at how he spoke out against Title IX and Cohen's hiring. You notice not one peep has come from him on this.
Also, Polk and Cohen are fairly close. Cohen lets him do some things in the offseason- and he would probably let him do some things during the season except for the fact that Polk is busy with UAB. If Polk went against Cohen, he would leave John no choice but to cut him out of MSU baseball completely. Polk doesn't want that, and honestly, Cohen doesn't want to have to do that either.
So, why doesn't he go after Polk? It's because Polk gave in to his Dad a little more than Cohen did.
The bottom line here is Dana Moore is a prick. It wouldn't matter if Nolan Ryan was our pitching coach.
And what Dana conveniently leaves out of his little lawsuit is that Forrest was originally hurt when Polk was our coach. Forrest missed some games his freshman year because of some sort of injury.
The honest truth here is this- this is really between Dana Moore and Cohen than anything. Polk has nothing to do with this.
And if you think about it- Polk is very outspoken about things that he feels are wrong. Look at how he spoke out against Title IX and Cohen's hiring. You notice not one peep has come from him on this.
Also, Polk and Cohen are fairly close. Cohen lets him do some things in the offseason- and he would probably let him do some things during the season except for the fact that Polk is busy with UAB. If Polk went against Cohen, he would leave John no choice but to cut him out of MSU baseball completely. Polk doesn't want that, and honestly, Cohen doesn't want to have to do that either.
So, why doesn't he go after Polk? It's because Polk gave in to his Dad a little more than Cohen did.
In reality, you'll all probably just get pissed and start telling me how stupid I am, but here goes.
It makes no damn difference whether Ron Polk stands up for Forrest Moore, whether he agrees with Cohen, or whether he does a dance in the courtroom wearing a maroon colored tutu. It's a LEGAL matter and therefore you have to look and see whether there is a LEGAL argument.
You all know as well as I do how ridiculously serious the NCAA is about ALL of its rules. Hell, they almost caused Rich Rod to lose his job a year earlier based on this exact stuff....practice hour limits. So don't sit here and act like the accusations don't threaten Cohen's job status. They do. Whether the former players are "sore losers", "pussies", or whatever else, the fact that there are 2 corroborating affidavits is not good for Cohen. Whether or not this pans out, he's gonna have a microscope on him for the rest of his career.
In court, I don't know what sort of evidence Forrest has as to the existence and development of his injury as it relates to your coach. But to sit here and act like every bit of this is ridiculous and to debate whether your own former coach(who loves your school to death) is conspiring is just absurd. Look, if the lawsuit is frivolous, it'll get thrown out. But Cohen's got a pile of **** at his doorstep, and the NCAA is paying attention. I promise. Yall just better not hope any more former players join in the chorus. If so, this could get ugly.
Bring on the hate.
It makes no damn difference whether Ron Polk stands up for Forrest Moore, whether he agrees with Cohen, or whether he does a dance in the courtroom wearing a maroon colored tutu. It's a LEGAL matter and therefore you have to look and see whether there is a LEGAL argument.
You all know as well as I do how ridiculously serious the NCAA is about ALL of its rules. Hell, they almost caused Rich Rod to lose his job a year earlier based on this exact stuff....practice hour limits. So don't sit here and act like the accusations don't threaten Cohen's job status. They do. Whether the former players are "sore losers", "pussies", or whatever else, the fact that there are 2 corroborating affidavits is not good for Cohen. Whether or not this pans out, he's gonna have a microscope on him for the rest of his career.
In court, I don't know what sort of evidence Forrest has as to the existence and development of his injury as it relates to your coach. But to sit here and act like every bit of this is ridiculous and to debate whether your own former coach(who loves your school to death) is conspiring is just absurd. Look, if the lawsuit is frivolous, it'll get thrown out. But Cohen's got a pile of **** at his doorstep, and the NCAA is paying attention. I promise. Yall just better not hope any more former players join in the chorus. If so, this could get ugly.
Bring on the hate.
I personally think we are best served if this just goes away.
The injury thing is almost impossible to prove in court, and it's not going to the be the big issue. The other stuff, such as the scholarship notification process and the practice hours stuff, very well could be a problem. If it takes someone settling with Moore out of the limelight to get him to drop the suit, do it. Because the longer this draws out the more likely it has negative affects.
The injury thing is almost impossible to prove in court, and it's not going to the be the big issue. The other stuff, such as the scholarship notification process and the practice hours stuff, very well could be a problem. If it takes someone settling with Moore out of the limelight to get him to drop the suit, do it. Because the longer this draws out the more likely it has negative affects.
if that makes you feel better.
But I really don't think Cohen's job is going to be in jeopardy here. Michigan didn't fire Rich Rod because of just that one violation. He had losing seasons and was extremely unpopular. Extra practice time is a minor infraction - and it has to be proven. You also have players like Jarrod Parks disputing what these three players are accusing Cohen of, and if Cohen doesn't have the time documented, then he deserves to be punished.
I think your thoughts are basically what most Ole Miss fans are hoping happens. Much like many were hoping that he would be a bust.
But I really don't think Cohen's job is going to be in jeopardy here. Michigan didn't fire Rich Rod because of just that one violation. He had losing seasons and was extremely unpopular. Extra practice time is a minor infraction - and it has to be proven. You also have players like Jarrod Parks disputing what these three players are accusing Cohen of, and if Cohen doesn't have the time documented, then he deserves to be punished.
I think your thoughts are basically what most Ole Miss fans are hoping happens. Much like many were hoping that he would be a bust.
I agree with you that these are serious accusations that if true could be a problem with the NCAA. We need this to get resolved and go away as quickly as possible.<div>
</div><div>However I, like Todd said, disagree that it threatens Cohens job status at this time. Its a minor infraction and if found to be true there would obviously be some sanctions, but its not like RichRod where people were just looking for an excuse to run him out of Ann Arbor. I also disagree with what you said about him having a microscope on him the rest of his career because of this. If found true, the NCAA will hand down its sanctions and move on to the next case. To my knowledge, this would be Cohen first run-in with the NCAA so its not like he's a repeat offender and I don't think some extra practice hours are going to run him up the ladder of the NCAA's Most Wanted list.</div>
</div><div>However I, like Todd said, disagree that it threatens Cohens job status at this time. Its a minor infraction and if found to be true there would obviously be some sanctions, but its not like RichRod where people were just looking for an excuse to run him out of Ann Arbor. I also disagree with what you said about him having a microscope on him the rest of his career because of this. If found true, the NCAA will hand down its sanctions and move on to the next case. To my knowledge, this would be Cohen first run-in with the NCAA so its not like he's a repeat offender and I don't think some extra practice hours are going to run him up the ladder of the NCAA's Most Wanted list.</div>
"Whether or not this pans out, he's gonna have a microscope on him for the rest of his career."
1.) It won't pan out.
2.) If Cohen takes us to Super Regionals and potentially CWS's on a regular basis, my guess the only people with microscopes will be in Oxford. Had we had another ****** season, most of us would probably feel different about this situation and wouldn't be defending Cohen so fiercely. But we didn't. Winning is everything and that's the way it goes.
But seriously, what a bunch of pussies.
1.) It won't pan out.
2.) If Cohen takes us to Super Regionals and potentially CWS's on a regular basis, my guess the only people with microscopes will be in Oxford. Had we had another ****** season, most of us would probably feel different about this situation and wouldn't be defending Cohen so fiercely. But we didn't. Winning is everything and that's the way it goes.
But seriously, what a bunch of pussies.
well, not really, but yes he's here in town and was at the mehican restaurant sitting at the table next to us. We nodded. It was cool like that.
That's beisbol.
That's beisbol.
Since you`re alreadyover hereenlightening us onhow the system works go ahead and bring us up to speed on that one too.