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msudawg12

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this scheduling is ridiculous. You play these teams that give their all to beat us because its their big chance and if we win then so be it, if we lose then its a killer.

this i jsut like playing southern in football. Theres no point and only respect and rpi value to lose
 
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MadDawg.sixpack

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getting rid of the 200+ rpi teams. Those are the real rpi killers anyway. But if we want a top 20 OOC schedule every year, we better get ready for 70 - 80% of our ooc being on the road. Of course, road games get a little more respect from the selection committee so I guess that would be a good thing.
 
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Hanmudog

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The schedule is not even finalized. Coach if you speculate on schedules the way you speculated on us winning in Tampa and whether or not Augustus was leaving then I'd say our OOC will be fine when all is said and done. You have not been right on anything yet so why start now.
 
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Coach34

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is there any doubt we shouldnt be about 14-1? 13-2 at the worst?
Now, couple that with a minimum of 11 SEC wins- thats 24-25 wins heading in to the SEC Tourney....

As you can clearly see- 30 wins is an attainable goal and there is nothing extreme about it
 
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Coach34

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MadDawg said:
getting rid of the 200+ rpi teams. Those are the real rpi killers anyway. But if we want a top 20 OOC schedule every year, we better get ready for 70 - 80% of our ooc being on the road. Of course, road games get a little more respect from the selection committee so I guess that would be a good thing.
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that. But we would like something a little better than a 160 average OOC schedule. We might have to go on the road a few times the next couple of years to elevate the program. But if we could win a couple, we'll become more of a force and get more return games.

All I seem to hear from many of you is "why schedule automatic losses?" Well, then your basically saying we are a ****** team with a ****** coach if we cant beat some good teams occasionally. Stay with me here- At some point, Stansbury has to beat a quality basketball team outside of the SEC to be viewed as successful nationally. You can spew all this "20 wins a seasons" stuff, but until we start beating some bigger teams and winning when it matters, we are still just lil ol Mississippi State
 
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Coach34

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I've spent half this season (along with a few others) telling your dumbass if we played Augustus and Osby more it would make us a better team. Just what the 17 was it you thought we did in Tampa? Hell, Augustus was our "player of the game" in two of the last 5 games. Explain to me how I was wrong about that?

I didnt say Kodi was leaving for sure, but I didnt say it wouldnt surprise me. I think everybody around here can see I'm a helluva lot more happy he is staying then you are.

You've seen most of our schedule- its weak as Crooms excuses. We are negotiating to play a game in Jackson- who in the hell have we ever played in Jackson that had an RPI above 200? That leaves only two more...

Quit being such a damn homer for 5 seconds and be honest
 
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Hanmudog

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You constantly point out how Stansbury does not beat good OOC teams which I understand the RPI ramifications of that argument and admit you do have a point with that. What I don't agree with in your case is the way you use that to denigrate Stansbury's coaching ability as if beating Kentucky, Florida, etc. on a routine basis is no big deal like SEC teams are completely worthless wins. There is nothing magical about beating a team OOC versus beating the good teams already within the SEC that determines whether a guy can coach or not. I agree that it would help our RPI and would like to see that myself but it does not have jack sheet to do with Rick's coaching ability.
Funny how you predict 30 wins yet I'm the homer here???????
 
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patdog

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It's pretty obvious why Coach34 is predicting 30 wins next year. He knows he has to set the bar high enough that Stans won't reach it so he can continue to ***** about him next year.
 
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8dog

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He's just saying 30 wins to screw with ya'll. I can't believe anyone would bite on that.
 
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MadDawg.sixpack

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I've seen the light Peaches. We should definitely be one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the country next year. Anything less and heads should roll.</p>
 
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fishwater99

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[b said:
Hanmudog[/b]]You constantly point out how Stansbury does not beat good OOC teams which I understand the RPI ramifications of that argument and admit you do have a point with that. What I don't agree with in your case is the way you use that to denigrate Stansbury's coaching ability as if beating Kentucky, Florida, etc. on a routine basis is no big deal like SEC teams are completely worthless wins. There is nothing magical about beating a team OOC versus beating the good teams already within the SEC that determines whether a guy can coach or not. I agree that it would help our RPI and would like to see that myself but it does not have jack sheet to do with Rick's coaching ability.
Funny how you predict 30 wins yet I'm the homer here???????
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Stans can't beat a quaility OOC opponnent or make it to the Sweet 16 b/c he can't scout these teams. Do we even scout teams? Stans has no offensive game plan, we have no real offense, no plays, nothing but an hand in the air and the "motion". We can win in the SEC b/c Stans has seen thease teams year after year, and he knows the players and how the SEC teams play. In other words Stans is in his elelment coaching in the SEC and does a great job doing it. But once Stans has to step outside of his comfort zone and play teams he hasn't played before on a regular basis, he is like a fish out of water. We let teams dictate the pace of the game and Stans can not make the in game adjustments that are needed to win these OOC games and in the NCAA tourney. In the NCAA tourney it is even more evident b/c to make the Sweet 16 you have to scout 3 teams for games to be played over two days.
 
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8dog

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but if someone says that we should win 30 games next year, then yes, that point is undebatable.
 
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Hanmudog

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You say that Stansbury has no plays and no game plan and yet still can beat the likes of Billy Donovan, Billy Gillespie, Bruce Pearl, Darrin Horn, and Andy Kennedy?? Surely you don't believe this. These other guys must be complete morons to lose to a guy with no game plan. Man our talent must be better than I thought.
 
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fishwater99

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We play all of the teams in the SEC each year, those in the West twice a year. Stans is familiar with those teams and he knows how to game plan for them year after year and he does a pretty damn good job against the SEC teams. So either he overlooks our OOC opponents, makes poor game plans, or he is just plain unlucky. Please explain to me how we can win year after year in the SEC, but lose to inferior OCC opponent every year and can not make it past the second round of the NCAA? That is the 2 million dollar question....
 
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Hanmudog

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Every coach in the country loses some OOC games that they shouldn't. SOme are inexplicable but that does not mean they are bad coaches. How many times has Stansbury lost to a lower seed in the NCAA tourney? Butler and Xavier obviously come to mind but you show me a coach that hasn't lost at least a couple of times to lower seeds. Our problem has been getting cruddy seeds more so than Rick's coaching. SOme of that, granted, is RPI and scheduling I will concede. As far as losing to San Diego and Charlotte, yes that sucked but how many times have we done that? It is not like there is a trend of losing to bad teams any more than just about everyone does. You think Texas and Oklahoma wouldn't like a do over with Arkansas? We just overanalyze it because we are State fans.
 
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MadDawg.sixpack

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We just overanalyze it because we are State fans.
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And some folks just have a hard-on against Stans, and nothing he could do would change it. There are so many factors that go into a whole season, there will always be something you can pick out to ***** about. Think about it. This is a sport that one hail-mary, half-court shot can be the difference in your coach being a genius or a complete moron.
 
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Hanmudog

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It is funny that Stansbury can pull some games out that no one saw coming at the time like beating UK at Rupp, beating South Carolina twice, hammering Western Kentucky, and beating LSU and UT in Tampa.........and yet some still choose to ***** about the San Diego game. Unreal. You have to look at the entire body of work for the year and the bottom line is that the year was way, way, way better than anyone on here predicted in November and some just seem bewildered by the idea that maybe, just maybe, our team just got better as the year progressed after dropping some games early on.
 
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fishwater99

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Hanmudog wrote: _________________________________________________ It is funny that Stansbury can pull some games out that no one saw coming at the time like beating UK at Rupp, beating South Carolina twice, hammering Western Kentucky, and beating LSU and UT in Tampa.........and yet some still choose to ***** about the San Diego game. Unreal. You have to look at the entire body of work for the year and the bottom line is that the year was way, way, way better than anyone on here predicted in November and some just seem bewildered by the idea that maybe, just maybe, our team just got better as the year progressed after dropping some games early on.
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Or the fact that Stans started playing Kodi and Osby for a significant number of minutes in the last 7 games. No way we win 6 in a row without Kodi playing more minutes.
 
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ScoobaDawg

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that the problem was with rick, cause that fits your agenda.
But seem to want to ignore that Rick had already come out and said Kodi was going to get increased playing time and wanted to play him at least 20 minutes
BEFORE the injury to Elgin even occured.
He finally got his damn act right in practice. Yes he is a hell of a talent, but to start the season
he wasnt doing the things he was being asked of..thus why his *** was benched.

I await a new argument from Coach so that you can latch on his crotch and suck it dry by repeating it constantly.
 
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fishwater99

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I was the one who was saying that we should not go with four guards and live and die by the 3 pointer back in December.

Do a Ronny and see for yourself...
I don't post on the board all the time like some...
 
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Hanmudog

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You don't want to hitch your wagon to Coach and have folks go back and pull up his old predictions. Distance yourself if you want to maintain credibility. I do want to clarify one thing. Whether or not you like the 4 guard lineup at the time, it was the best thing AT THE TIME for our team. Osby was not ready to start and still isn't. Kodi was buried in the doghouse and Baily and Johnson were not starting material. We won 6 straight with that small group. The problem was that Stansbury probably did stay with it for too long and not that he went to it in the first place.
 
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Ol Blue.sixpack

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cb6228 said:
The RPI is as much dependent on the rest of the SEC as it is our own schedule. If the SEC has a crappy non-conference season like it did this year, then it doesn't really matter who we schedule. We just have to go out and beat whomever we schedule.
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That.
 
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