more ******** basketball scheduling...

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

To that end, let's explore it in the context of how it would prepare State for an at-large berth.

 

Here are the games we do know, with realtimerpi.com's final regular season RPI from 2008-09 in parentheses:

â€¢ vs. Gardner-Webb (218)


â€¢ at Houston (86)


â€¢ vs. Mississippi Valley State (333)

â€¢ at San Diego (193)

â€¢ vs. Southeastern Louisiana (247)


â€¢ vs. St. Bonaventure (201)

â€¢ at Western Kentucky (43)

 

State will also participate in a neutral-site game similar to this year's Cincinnati game; details are not yet released.

 

In addition, State will participate in the South Padre Invitational, which will feature two home games against yet-to-be-named teams and two neutral site games at South Padre Island, Texas. Potential foes there include Missouri (10), Old Dominion (103) and Richmond (129).

Guess we are waiting to hear from Jacksonville St, Louisiana-Monroe, and Belmont to finish out the schedule....I knew this type of scheduling was coming....this team should win 30 games next year, we should win every game on that list except maybe Missouri, and there is no guarantee we will play them.

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

To that end, let's explore it in the context of how it would prepare State for an at-large berth.

 

Here are the games we do know, with realtimerpi.com's final regular season RPI from 2008-09 in parentheses:

â€¢ vs. Gardner-Webb (218)


â€¢ at Houston (86)


â€¢ vs. Mississippi Valley State (333)

â€¢ at San Diego (193)

â€¢ vs. Southeastern Louisiana (247)


â€¢ vs. St. Bonaventure (201)

â€¢ at Western Kentucky (43)

 

State will also participate in a neutral-site game similar to this year's Cincinnati game; details are not yet released.

 

In addition, State will participate in the South Padre Invitational, which will feature two home games against yet-to-be-named teams and two neutral site games at South Padre Island, Texas. Potential foes there include Missouri (10), Old Dominion (103) and Richmond (129).

Guess we are waiting to hear from Jacksonville St, Louisiana-Monroe, and Belmont to finish out the schedule....I knew this type of scheduling was coming....this team should win 30 games next year, we should win every game on that list except maybe Missouri, and there is no guarantee we will play them.

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

To that end, let's explore it in the context of how it would prepare State for an at-large berth.

 

Here are the games we do know, with realtimerpi.com's final regular season RPI from 2008-09 in parentheses:

â€¢ vs. Gardner-Webb (218)


â€¢ at Houston (86)


â€¢ vs. Mississippi Valley State (333)

â€¢ at San Diego (193)

â€¢ vs. Southeastern Louisiana (247)


â€¢ vs. St. Bonaventure (201)

â€¢ at Western Kentucky (43)

 

State will also participate in a neutral-site game similar to this year's Cincinnati game; details are not yet released.

 

In addition, State will participate in the South Padre Invitational, which will feature two home games against yet-to-be-named teams and two neutral site games at South Padre Island, Texas. Potential foes there include Missouri (10), Old Dominion (103) and Richmond (129).

Guess we are waiting to hear from Jacksonville St, Louisiana-Monroe, and Belmont to finish out the schedule....I knew this type of scheduling was coming....this team should win 30 games next year, we should win every game on that list except maybe Missouri, and there is no guarantee we will play them.

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

To that end, let's explore it in the context of how it would prepare State for an at-large berth.

 

Here are the games we do know, with realtimerpi.com's final regular season RPI from 2008-09 in parentheses:

â€¢ vs. Gardner-Webb (218)


â€¢ at Houston (86)


â€¢ vs. Mississippi Valley State (333)

â€¢ at San Diego (193)

â€¢ vs. Southeastern Louisiana (247)


â€¢ vs. St. Bonaventure (201)

â€¢ at Western Kentucky (43)

 

State will also participate in a neutral-site game similar to this year's Cincinnati game; details are not yet released.

 

In addition, State will participate in the South Padre Invitational, which will feature two home games against yet-to-be-named teams and two neutral site games at South Padre Island, Texas. Potential foes there include Missouri (10), Old Dominion (103) and Richmond (129).

Guess we are waiting to hear from Jacksonville St, Louisiana-Monroe, and Belmont to finish out the schedule....I knew this type of scheduling was coming....this team should win 30 games next year, we should win every game on that list except maybe Missouri, and there is no guarantee we will play them.

99jc · Mar 30, 2009

to go on the road. I like the WKU , Missouri, & Houston games. That MSVU game is a killer on RPI.

graddawg · Mar 30, 2009

I agree. I was hoping for at least two guaranteed OOC games with teams from legit conferences like we had a few years ago with Clemson, Miami and Mizzou to add to the possible Missouri match up. Good job, Scott Stricklin.

msudogsrule01 · Mar 30, 2009

I know for a fact that five of those games are contract games with teams. But we should pick up a good game to replace Cincy and I have heard that two of the three games we are trying to fill right now look like 80+ RPI teams. I don't think we are playing a Butler-level non conference schedule, but I think it should end up a step up from last years. I still wish we could work it where we play two top-20 RPI teams in the non-conference every year. That would really help. Oh well.

MSUCostanza · Mar 30, 2009

to go look at other school's schedules. Everyone plays a group of crappy teams. There are only 4 teams below 200 RPI on that list, which is not an unusual number for any power conference school. In addition, we still have 3 slots open, and you are speculating on who we will play.

MadDawg.sixpack · Mar 30, 2009

that way, there will be many more opportunities to bash Stans for not winning 30 games (or 35 if we get too close).

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

just one time lets play a schedule to be proud of that will get our team ready for March

DowntownDawg · Mar 30, 2009

....if you lose the game, RPI takes that into account. We don't live in the "magic number is twenty" days of 10 years ago.

MSUCostanza · Mar 30, 2009

and again, why can't you wait until the entire schedule is released? You have no idea, nor do I, who will fill those other 3 spots.

The ironic thing is that if we do play a top 40 RPI schedule, and we lose some of those games, you will be the first one on here jizzing on your monitor about how bad we suck.

cb6228 · Mar 30, 2009

The RPI is as much dependent on the rest of the SEC as it is our own schedule. If the SEC has a crappy non-conference season like it did this year, then it doesn't really matter who we schedule. We just have to go out and beat whomever we schedule.

saltybulldog · Mar 30, 2009

We bitched about Augustus leaving. Not making the NCAAs. Now we have Varnado leaving and out ****** schedule for the next couple of months. C34 has to have something to ***** about or he is not happy. He is just setting up his June to August rant, because once V comes back he will have nothing.

patdog · Mar 30, 2009

I'd love to play one of the SWAC schools per year and rotate it around between the 3 of them, but we just can't afford that RPI hit (I'm in favor of rotating our I-AA football game between them every other year because there is no RPI for football). I'd also get rid of 1 of the 4 #190-#250 RPI games. I'd like to see 1-2 top 50 RPI games, 2-3 50-100 RPI games (4 total top 100 RPI games), and a lot of 100-200 RPI games on our non-conference schedules. With a schedule like that, coupled with a normal SEC schedule, we won't be bitching about our RPI again.

BlindDawg · Mar 30, 2009

We were getting close to a week without you bitching about our basketball program, and I was beginning to worry that the board was going to be readable again. Good to know you're on the job to make sure that never happens.

Seinfeld · Mar 30, 2009

that top tier teams don't want to play us? I don't know the answer(which is why I'm asking the question), but some of you act like we're playing NCAA football and can just draw up the schedule however we like.

If you're Kansas or Gonzaga, why do you play MSU? We're not a good RPI win for them, we don't guaranteed a national tv game, and we're tough enough that we just might beat you. I'm not saying that the entire nation fears MSU so don't distort this, but I also don't think that there are teams knocking down Byrne's door to play MSU.

HD6 · Mar 30, 2009

of a top 20 schedule and a 11-4 mark or a top 100 schedule and a 14-1 mark? You really are proud of schedules? Were you embarrassed in 1999 in football, when our non-conference games were MTSU, Memphis, and Oklahoma State? Or did you just be happy that we went 10-2?

IT'S A TRAP!!!!

MSUCostanza · Mar 30, 2009

Coach was devastated that we won the SEC Tournament and got in the NCAA's despite his assurances it wouldn't happen, so he's having to find something else to ***** about.

karlchilders.sixpack · Mar 30, 2009

SanfordRJones · Mar 30, 2009

...I can't help but think that if you didn't spend every waking hour complaining about all things Stansbury, you might have some people agreeing with you. As it is, though, you're just too much of a douche for most people to stomach being on the same side of a basketball debate as you. That said, I think this schedule is pretty weak.

bulldogs726 · Mar 30, 2009

Arkansas went into SEC play 12-1 this year with a top OOC schedule. How did that work out for them in March?

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

"Yeah, and get rewarded like Tenn. did with an 8 or 9 seed!"

Losing to Bama at home, Kentucky twice, Mississippi, and LSU at home is what got them a mid-range seed.

LSU won the SEC and played nowhere near as a good an OOC schedule and finished with basically the same seed dumbass...are you telling me LSU didnt need to play a tougher schedule?

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

bulldogs726 said:
Arkansas went into SEC play 12-1 this year with a top OOC schedule. How did that work out for them in March?

UPig played a good OU team, and decent Texas team, and 11 nobodys. I wouldnt call SE LA, UC-Davis, Fla A&M, Texas Southern, NC Central, Northwestern St, and Austin Peay a "top OOC schedule"

karlchilders.sixpack · Mar 30, 2009

They had to play in a down SEC just like the rest of us.

No way to prove a bet like that, anyway!

Then look at LSU, SEC champs SOS 81...8 or 9 seed, also!

Todd4State · Mar 30, 2009

Hey Webels! We got Carolina, Kansas, Duke, UCLA, UCONN and Indiana ALL ON THE ROAD! Bitches!

What good would that do? So we could have Dickie V talk about us for a minute one night on ESPN and then mistake us for Ole Miss? It's not worth it.

Coach34 · Mar 30, 2009

Team A- 26-7...conference champ...easier OOC schedule

Team B- 21-12...3 games behind Team A in the standings...tough OOC schedule

These teams end up with basically the same seeding in the NCAA Tourney...now tell me aGAIN- does a tougher schedule help?

Maroon Eagle · Mar 30, 2009

...they will be better next year though.

Todd4State · Mar 30, 2009

Maroon Eagle said:
...they will be better next year though.

Ol Blue.sixpack · Mar 30, 2009

LSU's problem was not their OOC schedule. They had 3 games against OOC teams that made the NCAA's (@Utah, @A&M, and Xavier). By contrast, UNC played ONE game against an OOC tournament team and beat the crap out of the them (Mich State). They both won so -called "power" conference regular season championships. The difference? UNC won a good conference. LSU faded down the stretch in a bad conference. Hence the difference between a 1 seed and an 8 seed.

karlchilders.sixpack · Mar 30, 2009

You can get there almost regardless of who you play....hell, we even got there...

I do think one of the goals is to get there. But a harder schedule did very little for Tenn.

I'll ignore the idiot part, just to save time and key strokes.

ScoobaDawg · Mar 30, 2009

ONCE again

Coach is trolling, and he will admit it, and always does..bitching just to *****.
Therefore.

dpaul798 · Mar 31, 2009

just for the pic...hilarious

fishwater99 · Mar 31, 2009

Coach, these toolsheds on this board will never admit that you are right.. But keep on trying to get them, it makes for interesting reading.

We play a ****** OOC schedule and have for years, what's new? Stans can't beat the good OOC teams, so we don't play them, it's that simple.
He wants to get those easy wins so he can win 20+ games and our young players will build up their confidence, how did that work out this year?
If you can't beat real teams outside the SEC, why play them?

MadDawg.sixpack · Mar 31, 2009

how'd that work out for them?

fishwater99 · Mar 31, 2009

Well, Stans had not played Kodi and won six games in a row, 4 in the SEC Tourney, then you wouldn't be quite as happy about how our season ended...
I would rather play tough OCC opponents to get ready for the SEC season and to boost RPI and SOS, if you lose a few, then so be it.

whatever.sixpack · Mar 31, 2009

What would you rather do? Go 14-1 playing basically no one and have a subpar RPI or go 10-5 with a better RPI? I think other posts in the thread have shown that both situations will get similar seedings with the same conf. record, so it's a personal choice. Build the confidence of your team with wins or try to prepare yourself for the NCAA by playing good OOC teams. The only positive to playing a UT type schedule (playing 8 good teams) is that you get prepared for the conference season and tourney, but you could sacrifice confidence and much needed wins.
We scheduled 6 or 7 teams with pretty good reputations, but none on the level of Gonzaga, Kansas, Memphis, or Georgetown. So I like how we do it, and I think it works either way. We have a chance to beat everyone, and last year we played 6 or 7 teams that have been perenially decent in BB. I wouldn't mind scheduling one sure loss game, but not doing what UT did.

MadDawg.sixpack · Mar 31, 2009

I hear road games are important to the selection committee too. It would be easier to get those top 20 rpi teams at their place too.

Coach34 · Mar 31, 2009

all on the road? How bout just a couple of tough games on the road? Is that too much to ask?

And back to your UPig comment, they arent the best example- they played OU, Texas, and 11 awful teams

8dog · Mar 31, 2009

their OOC. It was that they sucked when conference play rolled around so I don't really know how they are a good example.

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