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MacNit

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So winning major bowls, OSU and Wisky in the Big Championship game in 2016 and two playoff games aren’t big wins? Looking forward to all those Big and National Championships that are right around the corner.
Even if you count all those (and I certainly don’t count those cupcake playoff wins ~ Illinois/Purdue)…that is one month for a real coach - not a decade’s worth.
 

Pa$ky859

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I have no intel. All I can figure out is Kraft thought Rhule was the man. The BOT or someone pushed back on that. Maybe the fan base let it be known that we didn’t want that hire? Kraft pivoted and had no plan. Struck out on everything and everyone else.

Now he is scurrying for a hire that will save his job. Thats all I can literally figure out. Nothing else makes sense.
 
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PSUPetch

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What is his record vs the top 10?

Is his recruiting class good enough to beat OSU?

How many B10 championships do you expect from Terry?
To your 3 questions, I offer:

What is Chokelin's record vs the top 10?

Were Chokelin's recruiting classes ever good enough to beat OSU? How often?

Since Terry won't get the chance, zero. If he ever got the chance, better than 1 in 12.
 
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rigi19040

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To your 3 questions, I offer:

What is Chokelin's record vs the top 10?

Were Chokelin's recruiting classes ever good enough to beat OSU? How often?

Since Terry won't get the chance, zero. If he ever got the chance, better than 1 in 12.


Name someone better who wants the job.
 

baltimorened

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May 29, 2001
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I have no intel. All I can figure out is Kraft thought Rhule was the man. The BOT or someone pushed back on that. Maybe the fan base let it be known that we didn’t want that hire? Kraft pivoted and had no plan. Struck out on everything and everyone else.

Now he is scurrying for a hire that will save his job. Thats all I can literally figure out. Nothing else makes sense.
let's be honest this entire thing has been f'd up. But where to go from here 12/4? From all media indications, everyone who was on the board is now off. We know and Kraft knows it. So, in a logical world, you stop the bleeding and hire Terry Smith. But Kraft hasn't done that. why? Does he know something the rest of us don't? Kraft is not stupid, if he's learned one thing, as soon as a name is thrown out that name gets a contract extension or a raise. Now I don't have any idea as to the state of play. But championship weekend is this week. If Kraft's pick has a team in this weekend's game then the best thing to do is hold firm, get a signature on the contract and then announce it. So maybe that's the plan.

If not, then maybe I was wrong and Kraft is stupid.
 
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Nits74

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let's be honest this entire thing has been f'd up. But where to go from here 12/4? From all media indications, everyone who was on the board is now off. We know and Kraft knows it. So, in a logical world, you stop the bleeding and hire Terry Smith. But Kraft hasn't done that. why? Does he know something the rest of us don't? Kraft is not stupid, if he's learned one thing, as soon as a name is thrown out that name gets a contract extension or a raise. Now I don't have any idea as to the state of play. But championship weekend is this week. If Kraft's pick has a team in this weekend's game then the best thing to do is hold firm, get a signature on the contract and then announce it. So maybe that's the plan.

If not, then maybe I was wrong and Kraft is stupid.
As stupid as they come.
 

ConcealedCarry

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Nov 7, 2015
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When wasn't he a great coach?
Franklin was a great coach...change was needed
How the hell do you know he can't? There's no reason to believe he can't.
You aren't supportive. You're already crying and likely know nothing about him.
Franklin was never a COMPLETE coach, therefore never a great coach JF never understood how important POWER football is and adapting to the SITUATION at hand was. Flawed Offensive Football philosophy .
 

leinbacker

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May 29, 2001
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So winning major bowls, OSU and Wisky in the Big Championship game in 2016 and two playoff games aren’t big wins? Looking forward to all those Big and National Championships that are right around the corner.

What was the most impressive win last year, Boise? And the year before, would it be Iowa?
 
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olelion

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Jun 10, 2001
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Franklin was never a COMPLETE coach, therefore never a great coach JF never understood how important POWER football is and adapting to the SITUATION at hand was. Flawed Offensive Football philosophy .
Franklin was like a frustrated baker. He had all the right ingredients, mixed them together but the cake was always off just a bit, or in at least one case, quite a bit as per this year. Based on the number of players sent to the big plantation of the NFL, the ingredients were top shelf
 

Ludd

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Oct 12, 2021
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Franklin was like a frustrated baker. He had all the right ingredients, mixed them together but the cake was always off just a bit, or in at least one case, quite a bit as per this year. Based on the number of players sent to the big plantation of the NFL, the ingredients were top shelf
And we’ll be longing for those days in the not too distant future.
 
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Bvillebaron

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Feb 4, 2004
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OSU and I guess Wisconsin and that's it. And no the entire college football world agreed we had the easiest path in the playoff or all time. And yes, at Penn State we should expect more than 1-18 against the top of the BIG Ten. If not then we are wasting our time.
Yeah I forgot because we “deserve” it. Like I said I just can’t wait for all those Big and National Championship
It's All About Me BGJ gave us....1 BIG Championship In 12 fricking years. Whoopdef'ing doooo!!!

I know....I know....you're impressed
Not at all. My response was to the claim that Franklin never won any big games.
 

pendal1

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Apr 24, 2003
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Yeah I forgot because we “deserve” it. Like I said I just can’t wait for all those Big and National Championship

Not at all. My response was to the claim that Franklin never won any big games.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you a Franklin relative. He was paid like a top ten coach so yeah we deserve more than 1-18 against the top of the Big Ten. If you don't think we deserve better than 1-18 then we are all wasting our time.
 
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m.knox

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Aug 20, 2003
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Franklin was never a COMPLETE coach, therefore never a great coach JF never understood how important POWER football is and adapting to the SITUATION at hand was. Flawed Offensive Football philosophy .

I'd offer no offensive football philosophy.
 

NittanyBuff

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Jan 29, 2007
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If this all ends in Campbell, wow is all I can say, this thing nearly went off the cliff.