If you don't like him that's cool. You said he was overrated though and it sounds like you are overrating him because you don't like his music. I'm not a Rolling Stones fan but I'm not going to say they are overrated. If you listen to Born to Run in its entirety and try to understand the place this music is coming from and where it's supposed resonate then you can appreciate it and still not like it. I'm not a huge Springsteen fan but I understand why people loved that album and him.
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That would be my personal opinion...I think he's overrated bc his music isn't good...I'm just adding that a guy who come put with his first album at 23 really knows nothing of the toll of those working blue collar jobs, or that after his sell out his songs became simple or that just bc his lyrics mEan something foesnt male hI'm a musician..in my opinion.
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So a 23 year old in 1973 knows nothing of the toll of those blue collar jobs? My dad was 23 when I was born. By that time he had been working for nearly ten years. I don't know if Bruce ever worked a day in his life but it was much different time back then. People started working young, started families young. Maybe you're basing this assumption on twenty three year olds in this age? Either or you're entitled to your opinion.
The River is my favorite of his, very haunting song about hardships of young people/couples.
Nebraska is my favorite album but that is splitting hairs because I love them all. I just wish that fat bastard Chris Christie would stop quoting Atlantic City all the time as that is my favorite track off that album. My favorite song off of The River is Stolen Car. I've always believed that entire song is a euphemism for suicide.
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I understand the Springsteen love. I love the Foo Fighters and Dave Grohl strikes all the same notes that Springsteen does. They are both good although I like the Foo Fighters style more. They just aren't greatest of all time and Bruce's fans think he is.
A master of what? Stealing lyrics? Cause he sure as hell can't sing.
We've already established my points, no point continuing validating them.
Bruce Springsteen should be declared a national treasure. He is more emblematic of this country than the flag or an eagle. He is the heart and soul of the nation. A reminder for what we have lost if we're willing to look back with him then he'll show us. Remind us of what we once could aspire to and where it went wrong. Sometimes intimately and at other times blindingly.
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All I hear is mumbling! I dont want to have to read the liner to know what the words are to a song!
Dude. You had Journey, Styxx, Reo Speedwagon, and Foreigner as your best American bands. Freakin Journey. Just stop.
Who has the better singing voice ? The man who has marbles in his mouth or Steve Perry?
I don't want to hear what his political views are! I want my music to put me in good mood! The only song he sung that I can understand the words is Santa Claus is coming to town!
there are too many people who vociferously insist springsteen is utterly devoid of talent/worth for him to be overrated IMO
the messianic nature of his relationship to his fans is a bit much but he's a tremendous live act and he's been producing original material for 40 years. conversely the rolling stones have been their own cover band since the early 80s
the messianic nature of his relationship to his fans is a bit much but he's a tremendous live act and he's been producing original material for 40 years. conversely the rolling stones have been their own cover band since the early 80s
i don't think springsteen's draft-dodging is all that infamous, as this is the first i've heard of it
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Personally I would rather hear Springsteen's voice. But I love Lou Reed's voice, Dylan's voice, Ian Curtis' voice, Bowie's voice, Black Francis' voice, Stephen Malkmus' voice, Kurt Cobain's voice, etc. Singing voice really isn't important to me. Most of my favorite artists are considered terrible singers, but to me it lends originality, uniqueness, and sincerity to their music. I don't listen to music to put me in any sort of mood either. I can listen to Joy Division or Bauhaus and it will put in me a good mood, but that wasn't the artist's intent. Journey is as commercial and digestible as it gets. There is nothing interesting about a single Journey song. Every grandma in church tomorrow probably loves and can sing along to Don't Stop Believing. You probably shouldn't discuss music ever again.
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To each his own taste. If I ever want to be depressed I will consult you for what type of music to listen to!
Having Journey in your top five American bands with Foreigner as an honorable mention should be depressing enough.
Sometimes information and it's value depends on who you are and where you are when you receive it. For example, if you had served on active duty during the height of Springsteen's success, and among many persons who had themselves survived multiple tours in Vietnam, then this would almost certainly not be the first time you would have heard about Mr. Springsteen's ridiculous antics that he intentionally created for himself during his induction, all for the purpose of achieving a psychological rating that would hopefully disqualify him, and did. By this process he dodged the draft. In the opinion of many, very cowardly. Now, please go ahead and refer to other men in the world to dilute the great singer from accountability . . . 3, 2, 1 . . .
I can't speak for Springsteen and his reasons, but I would have done the same. In regards to the draft..If I don't agree with this country's decisions to go to war then why I should I be required to serve? I don't see this as cowardly.
Who cares, Looking back at the mess that Vietnam was, I commend the Vets coming back and telling kids to tear up draft cards, kids dying in a good for nothing war that our great leaders lied. Good for the kids who got out of it, I respect the hell out of vets and most of the long time viet vets will tell you that they came back and said don't go because it is f'ed up.
Looking at what these Presidents do and what our model has been, than you can say these last 2 wars by George Bush were not the best moves because we are still dying and fighting over a bunch of people who wouldn't know freedom if you sit it in their lap. Only war that seems plausible now is WW2, the rest since have been disasters.
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springsteen didn't send anyone to vietnam and he didn't owe it to you or anyone else to go
clearly, his politics offend you, which is why many people hate him
johnny ramone was a right-wing prick but it doesn't alter my opinion of his music or his band's importance
clearly, his politics offend you, which is why many people hate him
johnny ramone was a right-wing prick but it doesn't alter my opinion of his music or his band's importance
Bruce Springsteen chose as his method to avoid being drafted into military service - not a given that he would go to Vietnam, but likely - a fabrication of disorders. He had the option of doing what other young men did do: conscientiously object. The latter of those two methods is actually somewhat respectable, because the individual is willing to not hide who he is (which seems like a reasonable thing to expect young men to do in exchange for their guaranteed safety when other young men are dying on the field of battle). Mr. Springsteen's method is not respectable. You can like him for what he did all you want. Many people do not. Among them, many who have served this country, fought for it, fought for you, your children too. Some have died. They have just as much right to place their value on Mr. Springsteen's choices as you have. Perhaps more.
yeah the vietnam war was about me and my children. sure
you had already made essentially the same post, and none of that has anything to do with the quality of his output
you had already made essentially the same post, and none of that has anything to do with the quality of his output
Bruce Springsteen is overrated, IMO.
Based on that video above, he has no business playing lead guitar, although that boring song couldn't get much worse.
Based on that video above, he has no business playing lead guitar, although that boring song couldn't get much worse.
If indeed "every grandma in church tomorrow probably loves and can sign along to Don't Stop Believing" , isn't that a complement to Perry.
I'd say the grandkids know a few Journey tunes as well.
If Joy Division was capable of stardom, they would have persued it.
You will never convince me that Alt bands don't want to sell records.
Fugazi always charged $5 for their shows, never more, selling out 1000-3000 seat venues in every town. They have turned down millions of dollars multiple times to get back together.
Of course they wanted to sell records, and to suggest they don't is a strawman argument. However, what seems to escape you, besides facts that bands did turn down higher pay days, is that most "alt" bands or indie bands wanted to be part of something culturally with their art.
Art was the primary motivation, not money. It was a beautiful time. But it's also gone.
Can't find any reference to The Eagles having the highest selling album. From everything I can find Thriller is number 1, Back In Black is number 2. The Eagles' Hotel California is somewhere in the mid-teens. And please oh please don't tell me you were counting The Eagles' Best Of album!?!
Pretty sure the RIAA designated the Eagles Greatest Hits as the "top selling album of the 20th century". That designation was made, I presume, as of 12/31/99. That disk and Thriller have gone back and forth in terms of total sales, and as of today Thriller is #1 with 30 million units sold, and Eagles Greatest Hits is #2 with 29 million......