Most schools expected to drop sports to NCAA minimum
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Ai says we only have 14. Is that accurate?
- Men: Football, basketball, baseball, track, tennis, and golf
- Women: Basketball, volleyball, tennis, golf, cross-country, track and field, soccer, and softball
Six men sports and eight women sports.? That doesn't seem fair.****
And the next step is the NCAA minimum will be reduced. We're going to wind up with about 4 sports being played semi-professionally and the rest will just be club sports with no school funding.
Everything is going great. All because people think the actual kids are the ones making money for the university and don’t understand NIL is not NIL
I’ll say this again, but I can still see a model designed to avoid Title IX by having alumni organizations as the owners of the teams with equal access to campus-based facilities if you can afford it. Likely degrades the product over time. Alternative is finding ways to have as few and as cheap sports as possible. Make a video game team with a hundred female athletes.
Men’s and Women’s Track have indoor and outdoor seasons which makes the total 16
Obviously this is a financial drain. We only have 16 already. I wonder what that does to State. I also wonder what this does to midmajors with limited funds. Are they going to have to quit sports all together? Drop down a division?
I guess the first question is does this only apply to the power 4?
I guess the first question is does this only apply to the power 4?
As long as the population keeps supporting it, this is what will happen. It pisses me off because this is not college athletics, it’s semi pro. It is not fair for those who have worked their *** off to be good at a sport that isn’t as sexy to have this opportunity taken away from them. I get the “that’s capitalism” argument, but colleges are supposed to be about more than that.
I become less of a college sports fan daily to the point of I'm almost done with it, live and paying to see it anyway.
Edited: Which also leads me to not buy tickets or to buy fewer, nor donate money to something that I no longer care for. At some point small monthly NIL donations aren't going to make up for lost season ticket sales, booster donations, parking, and concession sales and corporations are going to have to pony up more than they already do. I just can't see the current model lasting very long at all and once fans are gone, what's the likelihood of them coming back?
Edited: Which also leads me to not buy tickets or to buy fewer, nor donate money to something that I no longer care for. At some point small monthly NIL donations aren't going to make up for lost season ticket sales, booster donations, parking, and concession sales and corporations are going to have to pony up more than they already do. I just can't see the current model lasting very long at all and once fans are gone, what's the likelihood of them coming back?
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The NCAA is going to disappear eventually and will have no say in the number of sports required. This won't effect State anyway, we already are at the minimum.
It's going to be somewhat ironic when college football ruins all of college athletics.
It's eventually going to be a completely separate entity
My first thought as well and frankly makes you wonder why there is a minimum at all, particularly in these times. Just let the schools determine how many they want to support while maintaining T9 compliance.
If there were no minimum, I wonder what State would look like? FB, MBKB, BB, WBKB/SB to off set MBKB/BB and from there enough women's sports for football.? Wonder how many that would take?
There is someone on here I can't remember who but seem to really understand T9 and how to calculate "proportional equivalencies".
You are probably right. It's already semi-pro. Eventually, it will get fully privatized to help fund it. Then it will be disassociated from the schools for costs and liability. Then we have no more college football but some crappy "local" team that no one has ties to and doesn't care about.
And it will fold up like the other non-NFL leagues. And kids can start going to college because they are interested in learning.
I mean… I only come on this board for the pellet smoker reviews, stock tips, half naked women, duck boners, and robust discussions on French Parliamentary procedure.
Sports is the weakest segment of this board
I have a much higher concern for women's college sports. As far as I'm concerned the Olympics have turned into the biggest chit show in sports anyway.
Stop this whole 'we need to pay college athletes!' crap.
Stop paying them. All conferences and schools need to stop paying the athletes.
Athletes can choose to participate in collegiate sports and accept endorsement money from whoever they want.
The schools and conferences need to stop with this whole pay athletes route since that brings ALL athletes into the mix.
Schools have athletic teams, athletes can accept endorsement from whoever and for however much, and if an athlete doesn't have any endorsement funding then they don't have any endorsement funding.
Tough titty.
I get that the above scenario won't happen, but it should happen.
Stop paying them. All conferences and schools need to stop paying the athletes.
Athletes can choose to participate in collegiate sports and accept endorsement money from whoever they want.
The schools and conferences need to stop with this whole pay athletes route since that brings ALL athletes into the mix.
Schools have athletic teams, athletes can accept endorsement from whoever and for however much, and if an athlete doesn't have any endorsement funding then they don't have any endorsement funding.
Tough titty.
I get that the above scenario won't happen, but it should happen.
And maybe they can play sports just for the fun of it. And maybe get free tuition.***
It’s close to being there now Total!
And it’s pathetic what has happened and 17 those who have let it happen!
Yep, I mean, with all the other authority that the NCAA has already been stripped of, that's the very next thing that's going to be taken to court. In this new employment era of college athletes, what in the world gives them the right to mandate a certain number of sport being offered and consequently, bankrolled?
Ya know, I’ve threatened a wrasslin’ live thread for big events a few times. Maybe it’s time I come through on that.
Ive long said that college athletes are getting paid in the sense that most received a free 4-5 year degree in whatever they chose to get one in.
Use to, all three meals a day were paid for when there were athletic dorms and I’m sure in the last 25-30 years the athletes are getting weekly/monthly “allowances” for those meals.
Free tutoring if needed for classes they may be struggling with.
Free healthcare basically and free clothing in the form of shorts, sweats, tee shirts, shoes.
Not to mention the “hidden money, cars, houses, etc” that a lot of athletes were getting.
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This would all be solved by a cap. The NCAA is ran on people hell-bent on destroying institutional college sports
My stance has always been that nobody is forcing players to go to college and fall under the amateur model. There have been a million other options like Spring leagues, experimental leagues, indoor/arena, overseas teams, etc. that these players could try right out of high school if they didn’t want to “play for free”.
They could have easily traded the national exposure, world class conditioning/training, health care, free housing, free meals, free education, and living stipend for a meager paycheck and your games being streamed on DAZN until you were NFL draft eligible.
Alas, that ship has sailed.
They could have easily traded the national exposure, world class conditioning/training, health care, free housing, free meals, free education, and living stipend for a meager paycheck and your games being streamed on DAZN until you were NFL draft eligible.
Alas, that ship has sailed.
Problem is the coaches being paid millions and be able to leave whenever they want and leave players stranded. And the schools gold-plating the facilities. If there had been some guidance on where that money goes, i.e., back into academics or into endowment, whatever, and a cap on coaches, maybe we could have avoided these things.
And also......players should have ALWAYS been able to make money on their true name image and likeness. And the NCAA should have been spending all their time policing THAT, and making sure the athletes were actually doing real work and following a contract.......rather than trying to prevent boosters from paying players.
Wont this hurt us even more than it currently is? If other schools, who bring in much more revenue than us now are going to cut sports to produce even more revenue for the minimal number of sports, we fall even further behind. If we are currently at the minimum, then there is nothing for us to cut to increase revenue, where we already struggle against the "big" schools.
A cap on.... what exactly? Whatever new model they come up with? Current NIL payment structure? New NIL Payment structure? Sports getting capped on how much total their athletes get?
Lots of these schools are about to try to figure out workarounds with Title IX IMO.