So basically just like every public high school in Mississippi. You know…..30 fundraisers a year and all to fund everything except football and basketball.
Most schools expected to drop sports to NCAA minimum
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It's depressing to not be at all surprised by the thought that this could genuinely be the first time that some of these idiots in power have considered the possible repercussions of prior actions such as the revenue sharing settlement.
I am inching closer and closer by the day to the burn it all to the ground crowd, even if it means losing top tier college football at State. This is not what we all grew up adoring
The NCAA does not have enough sense and Balls to destroy sports, A Federal Judge was the culprit.
Only sports with an after life really matter, like,
Pro Sports. Baseball, Basketball, Tennis, Football, Golf, etc. the rest is ....you tell me.
If you (figuratively “you,” not specifically “you”) couldn’t see this coming, you’re blind. A few revenue sports athletes benefit, to the detriment of the collective, average college athlete. It’s very unfortunate.
I’d love a discussion of which posters were most “open-minded” about this model going back 3-6 years.
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I saw it coming the day they decided to do this. The moment they decided to do NIL it was over for a non revenue sport because schools were going to have to throw all their money at football because that’s who pays the bills.
I saw it coming when Alabama hired Saban. I knew he would bring his "booster system" that he used at LSU to the big money boosters. It was only a matter of time before the cost for players went up and the government wanted their piece of the pie. It went on long before NIL but NIL brought the ugly to the surface. We have been auctioning off NCs to the highest bidders for years. College football is a joke with ESPN involved as well. We have no chance of even making the playoffs even if they expand to 16 teams. We are better off investing in other sports and being happy with our SEC check each year.
Here is what frustrates me so much. The players NEVER brought the value to the equation. In the NFL, they bring a huge portion of it, because they are the best in the world. It doesn’t matter where Patrick Mahomes plays. You could move all the NFL guys to the XFL, and they’d get eyeballs and big bucks.
But not college sports. The ONLY reason they aren’t the equivalent of minor league baseball, where it takes a $5 ticket, 99 cent hot dogs, and a free fireworks show after the game in order to draw 2,100 people is because of the university. Pride in your school, loyalty to your family’s team, love of your Alma Mater, the uniques traditions and pageantry of the sports,…..all that is what drives 99% of the value in college athletics. Turn the Ohio State Buckeyes roster into the Columbus Tigers, and nobody gives a rip. It’s a real shame that we’ve built a system that’s now choosing to cede control of the value generation of all of this to players, at the expense of cutting the legs out from under other minor sports and its athletes. College football is becoming more of a joke every year. The college football system is going to collapse eventually and destroy itself. And that’s honestly what is deserved.
But not college sports. The ONLY reason they aren’t the equivalent of minor league baseball, where it takes a $5 ticket, 99 cent hot dogs, and a free fireworks show after the game in order to draw 2,100 people is because of the university. Pride in your school, loyalty to your family’s team, love of your Alma Mater, the uniques traditions and pageantry of the sports,…..all that is what drives 99% of the value in college athletics. Turn the Ohio State Buckeyes roster into the Columbus Tigers, and nobody gives a rip. It’s a real shame that we’ve built a system that’s now choosing to cede control of the value generation of all of this to players, at the expense of cutting the legs out from under other minor sports and its athletes. College football is becoming more of a joke every year. The college football system is going to collapse eventually and destroy itself. And that’s honestly what is deserved.
I actually don’t, but given your response, I’ll assume it’s manufactured outrage about some useless political thing and leave it be.
Also, I don’t think that’s the proper application of “Touché”.
In 10 years it’ll be football, men’s basketball, baseball, and one of softball or women’s basketball.
That's was where it was headed until the schools want control of everything and/or the boosters want to cheat at least the spirit of your post. Schools need to get out of the NIL business and stop expanding. They also need to limit the amount of games football can play and stop adding more games.
Also never going to happen once they opened Pandora's Box.
You can't have a cap without collective bargaining. NCAA making all the rules in their favor caused all this to happen in the first place. They can't impose a cap except on coaches salary and operating expenses.
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I continue to be very grateful that I entered the transfer portal 3 years ago, and emotionally moved on from MSU / NCAA athletics to other passions and pursuits.
Respekt my decizion
Respekt my decizion
Problem 1 is they don't offer a degree that many college athletes are interested in pursuing. Every student that attends a University is there to pursue the dream they want to do no matter what the odds of them being successful in their chosen field. Athletes, in many cases, are forced to do something other than their dream and in fact have been restricted by rules just to fake the amateur status.
Accept the fact that professional sports is an actual industry in this country and let them concentrate solely on that if they wish. As you said they are already setup to provide excellent training in those areas. Academics for a pro athlete could include classes in communication, contract law, finance and physical and mental well-being.
Problem 2 is not all athletes at a school get a full scholarship for 4 or 5 years.
I’m so jealous. It won’t be much longer and I’ll be there with you. What did you replace it with?
They don't have to go all in with football but that's what they'll do. Now that roster sizes are 105, an NCAA and not a federal judge's decision, look for other men's sports to suffer and women's sports to gain. I enjoy watching Olympic track and swimming pretty much once every 4 years. Bye men's swimming. Part of this is just how America operates. It's good to be rich.
For me, I swore those off a long time ago before I even thought about dropping college sports from my social calendar.
I'll answer for myself since I've done the same. I get the yard back into shape in the Fall after a long hot dry summer of ignoring it. There are lots of Fall Festivals all over MS during the Fall. When it gets cooler we go camping. We go see the kids and grands then. We start getting ready for the holidays coming up. I'll even occasionally watch a football game. There's no shortage of things to do besides throwing money at young kids that show no appreciation for it and will be gone next year.
I agree with most everything you said, but I keep wondering when this will happen? When will all these rich cocksuckers stop funding pay-for-play? When will the population actually stop watching? Until those things stop, this train ain't slowing down.
There's no need for colleges to offer a degree in sports just like there is no reason to offer a degree in waitressing. You just don't need a degree for that. The problem is players that should have been in minor league professional sports have been going to college and people have pretended they were student athletes.
It's really not a problem. Nothing wrong with playing because you enjoy it. Lots of students play sports in high school and college without getting paid.
The problem is that I don't know if it's possible for an organization like the NCAA to not be corrupted by its members.
I think it’s a long term thing. At least 10 years. And it may be on a 20-30 year generational scale. But all of the eyeballs now know this new system is a joke, but we still have the emotional attachment to a sport (and system) that we loved. We got to become emotionally invested in 3 and 4 year players we will never forget and we view as one of us. Kids today who are growing up will never have that. How are the kids of today going to get hooked on college sports like we did? I see very big problems sustaining this model long term.
They are not going to get hooked. Plenty of other things hooking them in these days.
The pool of sports participants is dwindling - due to access and interest. Performance exclusion is real. Unqualified coaches can't develop kids who don't feel engaged enough. And with all the seriousness and money tied to sports, very few children enjoy playing anymore.
If they don't have a parent or strong adult mentor driving them - literally and figuratively - they're out.
The decline since 2018 has been almost 10% between the ages 6-17.
I'd enjoy it more maybe if MSU's teams were winning/more competitive, but even then... it's all rather gross now.
There's no NEED for colleges to offer degrees in anything, they do it so people will attend the university and get a start on the career they want to do for their life. There is also no NEED for them to bring in the best athletes they can get to earn all that money that they are addicted to. SO if they were just going to have 10 games for people to attend and maybe an extra bowl game and give the school an amount of advertising like it used to be, then it was fine.
However now they want to earn more and more money and require these students to play more and more games. This system is also either the main path or an additional path to professional sports and they market themselves on that. And I know first hand that sports that do not have full scholarships for all their players, your yearly scholarship was totally based upon your performance on the field.
Therefore if they want to bring in the best athletes and their reason for being there is to play that sport and either help earn that school money or status they should also train that student on what they want to be trained on and that includes professional sports. You don't have to have a degree to be a writer or actor or director or musician or many other professions but those people get to concentrate on those things while in school even if they have a scholarship.