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Ol Blue.sixpack

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the D league.<div>
</div><div>It is amazing to me how much Stansbury won over the years with one - count 'em ONE - first rounder.</div>
 

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I hope the Heat don't bury another bulldog...

I want to see him play in the NBA, not just be drafted.
 

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Ol Blue said:
It is amazing to me how much Stansbury won over the years with one - count 'em ONE - first rounder.

Won what? Or are you now saying Stansbury wasnt the recruiter we've all heard he was? Cause I'm with you on that.
 

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Ol Blue said:
the D league.<div>
</div><div>It is amazing to me how much Stansbury won over the years with one - count 'em ONE - first rounder.</div>
You do know that Moultrie's makeup probably translates more to the NBA than Jarvis, right? So there's a much better chance he'll stick in the league. <div>
</div><div>And Stansbury won what? When did Stansbury do anything amazing?</div>
 

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Make that two, Renardo is a lottery pick!.......oh wait.....

I wonder if Renardo is showing out at his draft party tonight.....I am sorry. That was mean.
 

Ol Blue.sixpack

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EEMan said:
Ol Blue said:
the D league.<div>
</div><div>It is amazing to me how much Stansbury won over the years with one - count 'em ONE - first rounder.</div>
You do know that Moultrie's makeup probably translates more to the NBA than Jarvis, right? So there's a much better chance he'll stick in the league. <div>
</div><div>And Stansbury won what? When did Stansbury do anything amazing?</div>
I know allot about Moultrie and where he projects. I also happen to know the guy who scouted him the most for the Heat.<div>
</div><div>And isn't Stansbury the winningest coach in MSU history?</div><div>
</div><div>Thanks for playing.</div><div>
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But hey, you are a Kentucky fan and know far more about basketball than us Mississippi State fans.

Moultrie is athletic and loves to rebound. He will have a decent career.

And for the record, Jones does have a better skill set. However, that doesn't mean ****. He is a headcase. And he disappears from games on a consistent basis.

Teague won't be a good pro, either.
 
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rebounds just as well, runs the court just as well, but perhaps doesn't quite shoot the 3 ball quite as well?

Good thing being 6'11" in the NBA doesn't mean you really have to shoot the 3 ball as well as being 6'8" in the NBA. But wait, you know NBA scouts, what am I doing questioning your basketball IQ?!!?

Psst. It also means there is a good chance the 2 guys don't even play the same position. You can have that one for free
 

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studentdawg87 said:
But hey, you are a Kentucky fan and know far more about basketball than us Mississippi State fans.

Moultrie is athletic and loves to rebound. He will have a decent career.

And for the record, Jones does have a better skill set. However, that doesn't mean ****. He is a headcase. And he disappears from games on a consistent basis.

Teague won't be a good pro, either.
I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about it than you. <div>
</div><div>And Jones disappears from games on a "consistent basis"? Really? Consistent means all of the time. I thought he had a pretty good year on a really good team.</div><div>
</div><div>Moultrie probably had better numbers than Davis. I guess in your world he should have been pre-lottery.</div><div>
</div><div>Since you are such a numbers guy, let me ask you this. How do you think Moultrie's numbers would have looked if he had played for UK? What kind of numbers would Jones have put up if he played for MSU?</div>
 

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NewTweederEndzoneDance said:
rebounds just as well, runs the court just as well, but perhaps doesn't quite shoot the 3 ball quite as well?

Good thing being 6'11" in the NBA doesn't mean you really have to shoot the 3 ball as well as being 6'8" in the NBA. But wait, you know NBA scouts, what am I doing questioning your basketball IQ?!!?

Psst. It also means there is a good chance the 2 guys don't even play the same position. You can have that one for free
I'll file this one away.
 

studentdawg87

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Based on what? Supposedly knowing a NBA scout and cheering for Kentucky?

Yes, Jones consistently found his *** moping on the bench after Cal pulled him out of the game. Don't be an idiot. Everyone in America who kept up with college basketball knows this happened. He did have a decent year on a great team, though.

Your numbers argument is 17ing stupid. I defended Davis in the thread on him yesterday. He was hands down the best prospect in the draft. Numbers don't tell the whole story, and I never said they did.

Moultrie's numbers wouldn't have been nearly as good if he had played at Kentucky. Once again, this is feeble **** you're throwing out there. If Jones had played at MSU, his numbers would not have been as good as Moultrie's.

I'm not a homer. MGK and Davis are awesome. I love watching them play. Jones? Not so much. I wouldn't have touched him in the first round, even though he certainly has the talent to be a productive player in the NBA.

Heaven forbid someone point out a flaw of a Kentucky basketball player. After all, Kentucky IS basketball, and us stupid fans simply don't understand the finer points of the game.

Oh, and "allot" is actually A LOT you stupid 17.
 

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Exactly: why is such a travesty to talk about the shortcomings of KY players? M. Teague is gonna be mediocre PG just like his brother. What really bothers me, is what do these so called "experts" go off of? I mean for example, Teague was taken in the first round, despite being a turnover machine, lacking a reliable jump shot, lacking leadership, etc., etc.; yet, Dee Bost, who has shown he can be a great passer, a good leader, a good shooter (with diversity) and a good defender, doesn't even get drafted? Not to mention the heads up match-up between these two...Dee dominated, so much so, where Cal pulled Teague midway through the second half, sitting on the bench, putting MKG on Dee, and having their 2 run the point.

Just like Jarvis; if he'd had been drafted by any other team, he'd been in the NBA today. He was drafted by the worst possible team, at the worst possible time. I'm surprised they don't want him now. With guys like Joel Anthony playing the 5, you'd think Jarvis would be able to produce comparable numbers, at least on the defensive end.
 

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A senior All-SEC PG should win that battle every time.

The problem with the NBA is the league is littered with guys who didn't do jack **** in college yet were drafted in the first round simply due to being skilled. You have to take chances on guys and hope they develop, but I can't stand when guys are considered great prospects despite being pussies and/or not giving a damn.

Miles Plumlee went in the first round simply because he was a good athlete. Who cares if he never did **** on the court? Perry Jones III, while incredibly gifted, would get his *** kicked by a toddler. (He was still a smart pick that late in the draft.)

Take Sidney for example. Despite being the most worthless individual to ever grace a basketball court, some people still thought he should still get drafted due to his raw talent. (In their defense, though, he couldn't have been a riskier pick than the 4,371 European guys who were drafted in the second round and will probably never see the inside of a NBA gym.)

I know you can't compare football and basketball, but it seems as if highly-touted basketball recruits get the benefit of the doubt from high school all the way up until the draft. It also helps to play at a powerhouse school.
 

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But I will not let your ridiculous concepts slide. The first round included draft picks from only 18 college teams. From that alone, you would expect that we would at least be a tournament team. You are absurd. I seriously doubt "allot" of these first rounders will be in the D-League and I would be willing to bet that Moultrie starts the season on the 76ers roster.
 

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studentdawg87 said:
Based on what? Supposedly knowing a NBA scout and cheering for Kentucky?

Yes, Jones consistently found his *** moping on the bench after Cal pulled him out of the game. Don't be an idiot. Everyone in America who kept up with college basketball knows this happened. He did have a decent year on a great team, though.

Your numbers argument is 17ing stupid. I defended Davis in the thread on him yesterday. He was hands down the best prospect in the draft. Numbers don't tell the whole story, and I never said they did.

Moultrie's numbers wouldn't have been nearly as good if he had played at Kentucky. Once again, this is feeble **** you're throwing out there. If Jones had played at MSU, his numbers would not have been as good as Moultrie's.

I'm not a homer. MGK and Davis are awesome. I love watching them play. Jones? Not so much. I wouldn't have touched him in the first round, even though he certainly has the talent to be a productive player in the NBA.

Heaven forbid someone point out a flaw of a Kentucky basketball player. After all, Kentucky IS basketball, and us stupid fans simply don't understand the finer points of the game.

Oh, and "allot" is actually A LOT you stupid 17.
Smelling smack and name calling just another way of saying "I don't know enough about the topic to debate you on this blue, so buy a Thesaurus"<div>
</div><div>And anybody who goes to the trouble of declaring themselves NOT to be a homer, is a homer.

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saltslugs said:
But I will not let your ridiculous concepts slide. The first round included draft picks from only 18 college teams. From that alone, you would expect that we would at least be a tournament team. You are absurd. I seriously doubt "allot" of these first rounders will be in the D-League and I would be willing to bet that Moultrie starts the season on the 76ers roster.
You don't really have allot to go on from a basketball perspective, so you resort to have to resort to spelling smack. I get that. Most people choose to sit out a debate in which they have no knowledge, but who am I to question you on how you use your free time. <div>
</div><div>I don't think Moultrie is a great NBA prospect based on what I've seen and what I've heard. You do because you have a Mississippi State coffee cup on your desk.</div><div>
</div><div>I hope I'm wrong, but he has a long way to go and I wouldn't be surprised if he has to spend some time in the D league to get there.</div>
 

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D league. That's absurd. They would trade the pick instead of wasting it. To say a scout intentionally drafted a guy he knows will be a d league player is... well silly. This is also considered a rather deep draft.
 

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Traded to Philly... Miami didn't want another guaranteed contract on their books.. plus they picked up a 1st rd pick from Philly
 

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Beardo said:
Exactly: why is such a travesty to talk about the shortcomings of KY players? M. Teague is gonna be mediocre PG just like his brother. What really bothers me, is what do these so called "experts" go off of? I mean for example, Teague was taken in the first round, despite being a turnover machine, lacking a reliable jump shot, lacking leadership, etc., etc.; yet, Dee Bost, who has shown he can be a great passer, a good leader, a good shooter (with diversity) and a good defender, doesn't even get drafted? Not to mention the heads up match-up between these two...Dee dominated, so much so, where Cal pulled Teague midway through the second half, sitting on the bench, putting MKG on Dee, and having their 2 run the point.

Just like Jarvis; if he'd had been drafted by any other team, he'd been in the NBA today. He was drafted by the worst possible team, at the worst possible time. I'm surprised they don't want him now. With guys like Joel Anthony playing the 5, you'd think Jarvis would be able to produce comparable numbers, at least on the defensive end.


Couldn't disagree more. He was late in the 2nd round, where you make league minimum and don't get a guaranteed contract. He was bound for Europe no matter what. He's a situational player, and those are abundant in the NBA. If any of you follow the Hornets we have that Mexican guy who has never played in the NBA and he's around 30 and 7' tall. We brought him in the guard the post in the 4th.

If you have been following Jarvis, you'd know the Heat called him up for their playoff roster but changed their mind shortly after. Jarvis didn't resign in Europe and is coming back to the US to play summer D league trying to get a spot on the Heat's dwindling roster. It's the perfect place for him to be. They know he's there, they think highly of him, they need a center, and they don't have any more money.
 

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Well cool, I didn't know about all that. In that case, you're right, he's in a pretty good situation. With the style of ball the Heat will be playing for the next few years, Jarvis would be a perfect fit in a backup center spot.
 

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But I do claim to know more than someone who thinks that a first round pick on a mediocre team will not be on the roster. And to be clear, I couldn't care less about his success. He gave up on our team a few times during the season and I don't simply love MSU players just cause--I've been railed countless times for bashing current players.