I understand that. But I would take Saban TO or Snyder at 62 because I believe they would make instant progress and be able to maintain that progress for the 4 or 5 years. That doesn't mean winning it all right out of the gate but better than 3 and 6 with a fairly weak schedule.
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To be honest I don't see Nebraska turning the corner under Riley at all. I think the game itself has passed them by and they've been at it for far too long to change at this point. Some coaches do well and adapt to the dynamics of it all while others are stuck in their ways which is something the OSU fans complained about with Riley and I can see why. I think it's possible that he could have a couple of good seasons if the conditions allow for it but he's probably not the guy to bring Nebraska back in to the national fold. I hate to say things like this and even more so that I'm saying it before they're even through their first season here but I just don't see it turning out well.
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2-6, 6th in North Division
Gary Anderson ... move from Wisconsin to Oregon State is actually at 2-6, after another loss yesterday.
Oregon State is far different place than Nebraska. Winning at Oregon State, with Oregon there, in the same conference... Far different place. It is more like Kansas and Kansas State, but a major difference there is a coast and Washington and California in between.
The real long-term question is Mike Riley's defensive success. This isn't the Pac 12, but the Big Ten and more importantly, Nebraska.
However, the problem at Nebraska first and foremost is at Quarterback. Right now, Nebraska doesn't have a highly talented one. How would Bo Pelini be doing in 2015 at Nebraska?
We will never know and the Big Ten should be happy with that fact, as should Nebraska fans. The seven year itch was good enough to cut ties.
Patience, Prudence and Ethics ... 3-6 isn't anything to be happy with, but 6 losses by a total of 23 points isn't the end of the world either.
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2-6, 6th in North Division
Gary Anderson ... move from Wisconsin to Oregon State is actually at 2-6, after another loss yesterday.
Oregon State is far different place than Nebraska. Winning at Oregon State, with Oregon there, in the same conference... Far different place. It is more like Kansas and Kansas State, but a major difference there is a coast and Washington and California in between.
The real long-term question is Mike Riley's defensive success. This isn't the Pac 12, but the Big Ten and more importantly, Nebraska.
However, the problem at Nebraska first and foremost is at Quarterback. Right now, Nebraska doesn't have a highly talented one. How would Bo Pelini be doing in 2015 at Nebraska?
We will never know and the Big Ten should be happy with that fact, as should Nebraska fans. The seven year itch was good enough to cut ties.
Patience, Prudence and Ethics ... 3-6 isn't anything to be happy with, but 6 losses by a total of 23 points isn't the end of the world either.
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No but the funny thing is he doesn't have to make us a national power to not get fired. Supposing he is fine with retiring after three or four years on his contract all he really has to do is win like six or seven games next year and say nine in year three and four and the. Call it a career. Let the next guy take a more or less standard roster and go from there.
See that is the other thing. You mean to tell me SE was only looking for a Coach for 4 years Knowing Riley was 61? So all Riley was looking for was another 4 years.
Your not a very good AD if that is your thought process.
I don't think that was the original plan but it does make for a convenient fallback plan for the new chancellor and BOR.
In my heart of hearts I feel like the powers that be are just biding time until frost proves he is worthy somewhere. Even though no one will say it.
If Riley could give five to seven good years then you are looking at prime Frost time. If he only makes it two or three then the current or future AD is going to have to make a cold assessment if Frost is worth the risk
Yep. This guy is the root cause and has done more damage to our athletic dept over the past 15 years then anyone else.
Don't really get the Continued ire. Don't like him either but he's as good as gone now. He's got nothing but going away parties for the next few months
I think Riley had a succession plan in mind then he took this job. Just a guess but I think he thought he could bring Langsdorf and groom him over the next 5 years to take over once he was done.
I see this as very likely as well. It probably wouldn't have ever happened since the fan base is all about a frost homecoming but Riley can help his younger coaches with this gig
No way in hell should something like that should ever happen, I don't care how successful Riley is...
Happens all the time. If Riley would have killed it Langs would be the next frost or mcelwain
I may be in the minority, but I don't really think this is the case. I do think that some players, especially on defense, don't believe in the system they are being taught. If your boss tells you to do something in a way you think is the wrong way, how much effort are you going to put into it? This may be a bit self fulfilling, if you don't think something is going to work, you have no confidence, no swagger, and it doesn't work. Like others have said, making changes to a relatively successful organization can be more difficult than turning around a dumpster fire.