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Hoping that was a wakeup call for Montini. Let's see if they can rebound against Lake Zurich. MS played great. The Montini defense was nonexistent.
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Yeah terrific win for the Hawks and that Loyola game looks pretty damn interesting now doesn't it
Whether Maine South wins a state football title this year or not is debatable. But clearly they win the national championship of scrabble word scores for players names.
Impressive win and I don't envy the PA announcers
I didn't realize Montini wasn't at full strength for last nights game until reading today's Tribune article. If it was mentioned on here I missed it. I'm not sure if it would have made the difference in winning and losing last night but might explain part of the lopsided loss.
bronco man,
I think you are right about MS. I also really think Loyola is going to have their hands full with the Hawks next week
I sat ta the game with a few Montini people and we were really impressed with Maine South speed in the qb and the running back. They also have a pretty good receiver and I think he is a junior.
It was important to know Montini was not at full strength last night I don't think Walker played much and the other guy I think he was #6 got hurt in the second half. The other guy had to awesome runs and one was for about 70 yards and a td but his second long run for aboyt 70 yards he tried to fake out a MS guy and went out of bounds. The people I was with think he hurt himself on the fake and not because he was tackled. We had a hard time figuring out why he tried to fake out the MS guy when he could have picked up a few more yards. I hope he is ok.
Game could have been different with Walker, but MS looked awesome last night.
For MCHS to get better I think they need to work on their pass game a bit more.
This is why I agree with Montini's philosophy re scheduling. Sure you are going to get beat but the important thing is to walk away with an idea what kind of team you have and what you have to work on. You take the bitter with the better. The coaching staff will make adjustments and hopefully you have an improved team when you face your next opponent.
You don't have to win them all to have a chance, all you have to do is win 5.
You don't have to win them all to have a chance, all you have to do is win 5.
MS was very impressive last night. I pick MS to beat Loyola next week. Montini should have run the ball more as Coach A said in the paper. Norgle was all over the place with his passes. Walker never played a down and I didn't even see him on the bench. The way MS played i don't think it would have mattered if Walker was in. His dad said he will play next week against Lake Zurich. Will Smith the tailback was Montini's entire offense. Montini has other running backs but for whatever reason they didn't use them. MS's defensive and offensive lines dominated the entire game. Huge holes on offense and no penetration by Montini. Montini has a lot of speed on defense but there were a ton of missed tackles and out of position players. Mitch West had one carry for about 8 yards buthe has a huge soft cast on the hand he broke. Montini needs to regroup and have better play calling and better pal next week.
Maine South played an excellent game yesterday and deserved the win!
Montini's offensive and defensive lines were not getting the job done. Montini lost this game in the trenches. On the D-Line Montini looks to be a bit light this year. It looks like two of the D-lineman really should be linebackers instead of lineman. Maine South opened huge holes and it seemed like they were getting 10 yards per carry. They looked really fast.
I don't really care for having one of the Bronco's linebackers playing both ways. We had enough problems on the offensive side of the ball and seems like he should just be playing on offense.
On offense the passing game was just poor. Nobody was stepping up and making plays. The O-line only opened up minimal holes for the running game and #6 took advantage of a few of them. I like #6 a lot at the running back position but not much at WR. Obviously Montini needs to find ways to get the ball in his hands during the game with Walker as a starter but I think #6 is so much more effective at the running back position rather than WR. I would rather see #5 and #6 both lining up together in the backfield than seeing #6 lining up in the spread as a WR. Just my thoughts.
With our schedule the tackling in the secondary needs to get better if the Broncos want to make the playoffs (Maybe watch Jake Kapp highlights on the perfect technique of tackling).
Montini's Walker did not play and West played on defense only with a cast. Therefore he could not be used at wide receiver. But this is no excuse because Maine South wins this game easy even if the Bronco's were at full strength.
Hopefully things get better for next week.
Wassup
Montini's offensive and defensive lines were not getting the job done. Montini lost this game in the trenches. On the D-Line Montini looks to be a bit light this year. It looks like two of the D-lineman really should be linebackers instead of lineman. Maine South opened huge holes and it seemed like they were getting 10 yards per carry. They looked really fast.
I don't really care for having one of the Bronco's linebackers playing both ways. We had enough problems on the offensive side of the ball and seems like he should just be playing on offense.
On offense the passing game was just poor. Nobody was stepping up and making plays. The O-line only opened up minimal holes for the running game and #6 took advantage of a few of them. I like #6 a lot at the running back position but not much at WR. Obviously Montini needs to find ways to get the ball in his hands during the game with Walker as a starter but I think #6 is so much more effective at the running back position rather than WR. I would rather see #5 and #6 both lining up together in the backfield than seeing #6 lining up in the spread as a WR. Just my thoughts.
With our schedule the tackling in the secondary needs to get better if the Broncos want to make the playoffs (Maybe watch Jake Kapp highlights on the perfect technique of tackling).
Montini's Walker did not play and West played on defense only with a cast. Therefore he could not be used at wide receiver. But this is no excuse because Maine South wins this game easy even if the Bronco's were at full strength.
Hopefully things get better for next week.
Wassup
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Slow down everyone! MS played great yesterday and it was an awesome win. But winning state and beating Loyola are two very very very tough tasks. LA will have a huge size advantage at all but one position and have the speed to equal them too. I'm not saying the Hawks can't beat LA but they are #1 for a reason.
need help with those bags of sand?
Wassup,
What happened to the Smith kid who got hurt on the long run?
I was sttting at the top of the stands on the 40 yd line and it looked like he tried to fake out the MS defender and got hurt. I hope he is ok.
Like a lot of others, shocked by this one. not so much on the result, but the score. Been a while since bronco got hit that hard.
Bronco needs to tighten up fast...JCA too....
No sandbagging here. I would love for us to perform like we did yesterday on Saturday.need help with those bags of sand?
Simon,
I think Smith had cramps because he got back in the game later. He really played well.
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I think I know what your talking about. Smith left the game after that long run and they put in the SO running back while in the red zone. I think this was the perfect situation to put in #26 our starting SO running back from last year who is productive in the red zone (Example - that game winning drive at the end of the game last year when the soph's beat St Rita on the final drive of the game). Instead they picked the SO running back and tried to score exclusively with the passing game. I think the outcome would have been much different on that drive if they did.
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If MCHS cannot complete any passes again next week then as much as it hurts me to say this, then they should implement the quickest version ever of the JCA offense by putting West at QB with our trio of running backs in the backfield together being Walker, Smith and the third could be Foster, Quaglia, Karczewski or whomever. This would be the fastest version of the JCA offense ever implemented (by the Montini track team). No need for West to pass the ball, just hand it off or run with it.
At least implement a few of the JCA plays in the offense just like when they ran the wildcat at times or the two linebackers on offense (Embrey, Kapp) in the past. This would really throw off the opponents defense.
I'm sure JCHILLTOPPERS will get a thrill reading this post!
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A lot of the fans felt the same way with putting #26 in but for whatever reason they didn't do it. He is a big strong kid who can run with power. From what I understand he is one of the fastest kids on the team but they have him playing middle linebacker. Last year against Main South Sophs he had three sacks of the quarterback in the first half and one in the second as an outside linebacker. That was why I commented on kids playing out of position.
Totally agree with you on two running backs in the backfield. #6 was on an island back there and MS was keying on him every play. If they could have had another bigger running back in there as a blocker for him on the sweeps I believe he could have many a lot more yards. Once he got outside with his speed it would have been hard to catch him.
I do like your idea about putting in a blocking back.
With Walker and Smith at RB there just won't be much playing time for #26 at running back this year. But #26 does run the ball with power and to me is a typical Chicago Catholic League type of player. I hope they keep their options open by at least using him in area's when needed when it's tough to move the football like in the red zone.
Walker and Smith are at the best when the ball is handed off to them out of the backfield. They are great, great players. But I really don't think they are effective lining up at WR so I would not put them in that position. To win you have to get them both as much touches as possible. Therefore I would either rotate them in the backfield or play with two backs in the backfield at times.
I do think to maximize Montini's offense you have to get #26 in on the offensive side of the ball. So I would play him at wide receiver even if he has to play the slot position. West really can't play offense right now on the offensive side of the ball due to the cast. I would play Shilgalis, Morrissey, #26 as the starting receivers mixing in Pirog and Quaglia at times at WR. But at times I would play both Walker and Smith in the backfield with two receivers like Shilgalis and Morrissey or #26. I have not seen Morrissey much but would move him to offense permanently but not on defense. We are deep at linebacker but the offense needs help.
We need to be bigger on the defensive line. I've seen big guys just standing on the sidelines. Put them in on the D-line. Move #57 and #34 to linebacker instead of the defensive line where they belong. They are both great linebackers and too light to be effective on the line. Your linebackers would be Foster, #34 and #57. I would also rotate in #26 but primarily use him on offense at WR.
These are just my thoughts from knowing the program as limited as I do. I don't know everything but the Montini fans and Maine South fans I was talking to during the game agreed with me on the changes.
Also our secondary must learn to tackle.
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I couldn't agree with you more! Smith and Walker should both be in the backfield at times and occasionally mix in #26 as lead blocker. He can hit the hole fast and take out one of the linebackers on the run side for the ball carrier. Last year #26 as a soph played the slot when another back was in and also as a lead blocker for the other running back.. He is an excellent blocker and can catch the ball out of the slot. Both Smith and Walker are on the small side and if the hole isn't there they have to jump to the outside. During the MS game I seen that had Spivak (right tackle) a yard or two off the line a couple of time and they used him as a blocker on running plays. It was obvious by the way Spivak lined up it was going to be a running play. The entire offensive line was out of sync and Smith earned every yard he got.
I also agree that neither Smith or Walker should by at WR. Quaglia and Shilgalis are both good receivers and have good speed, but don't know about Morrissey as yet.
I am hoping that Norgle just had first game jitters but if his passing stays erratic then Montini needs to run the ball a heck of lot more. Your comment of West at quarterback was thought provoking but right now with that cast on he won't be able to handle the ball cleanly.
Defensive line is definitely a weakness for Montini. #57 had one good sack but I also agree he needs to be at linebacker as I understand that it where he played last year.
I would rotate #26 in when it is a passing down as he can cover the tight end or use him on a blitz pressuring the QB. We had hardly any pressure on the MS quarterback and he picked us apart.
Don't know what happened to our secondary as they were almost non existent. There were quite a few third and long which MS converted due to poor coverage and bad tackling. It looked like our secondary was one or two steps behind MS receivers which makes me scratch my head as they are fast enough to cover. During the game I didn't see our secondary up close to the line or bumping the receiver at the line on the snap.
The Montini coaches need to reevaluate all their players and I'm Coach A will be doing that this week. By the way it seems you have a lot of knowledIege of Montini and their players so I would not say your knowledge of them is limited. i enjoy all of your posts as you call it like it is.
Gene K,
It seems you and I are seeing things the same way. Our thinking is virtually the same. I do think Norgle will put it back together soon. I've seen him produce before and he will do it again. The Bronco's will get back on track one way or another.
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It seems you and I are seeing things the same way. Our thinking is virtually the same. I do think Norgle will put it back together soon. I've seen him produce before and he will do it again. The Bronco's will get back on track one way or another.
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it reminded me of the St Francis game two years ago. Bronco got an absolute beat down and made changes and went on to play in the State Championship game.
psspfan
It is interesting how teams can come back from bad losses and make a season of it. Montini in 2009 was a 5-4 regular season playoff team, losing to good teams and beating bad ones. The coaching staff made adjustments in the playoffs and with some luck won a state championship.
Naz is another example. In 2013 they took consecutive losses, the first to Marist in a close game and a bad loss playing JCA. They turned the season around after that loss and made a deep run in the playoffs. That season was the start of the Naz turnaround.
Hopefully Montini can make the adjustments necessary to get to 5 wins.
It is interesting how teams can come back from bad losses and make a season of it. Montini in 2009 was a 5-4 regular season playoff team, losing to good teams and beating bad ones. The coaching staff made adjustments in the playoffs and with some luck won a state championship.
Naz is another example. In 2013 they took consecutive losses, the first to Marist in a close game and a bad loss playing JCA. They turned the season around after that loss and made a deep run in the playoffs. That season was the start of the Naz turnaround.
Hopefully Montini can make the adjustments necessary to get to 5 wins.
Bronco Man and all Bronco fans..
the last title we had at MS came in season where we got clocked by WWS and embarrassed in Palatine.
Started off 0-2
You have a great coaching staff and a great bunch of kids. This game will only fuel the fire!
Good luck the rest of the year and all of us pray the boys stay healthy.
the last title we had at MS came in season where we got clocked by WWS and embarrassed in Palatine.
Started off 0-2
You have a great coaching staff and a great bunch of kids. This game will only fuel the fire!
Good luck the rest of the year and all of us pray the boys stay healthy.
Norgle is a good quarterback and usually accurate with his passes. He looked off and his passes were either thrown short or too long. Not how I am used to seeing him play so I think he will come around too. Montini has great coaches so I am sure after looking at the films they will make their adjustments. By the way #26 is the tackler who caused the MS quarterback to fumble on our scoring play in the first quarter.
Maybe you can explain the pass interference call on the play MS receiver appeared to fall down and the MCHS player trip over him. 23 on freshman squad for MS was quite talented
