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615dawg

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It’s amazing how many dumbasses end up as politicians. My neighbor spent a term in DC as a representative; he is legit the lowest IQ on the street.
Smart, competent people do not normally choose politics. Plus, its nasty business and good people get railroaded.

I have a good friend that felt called to run for school board. Just saw some things in the schools that he wanted to help try to fix. The lies that were said about him on social media were unreal. No one wants to go through that.
 

Podgy

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She forgot to read the tea leaves and un-MAGA. Leaned hard on Trump including in person campaigning.
It appears that Americans are getting tired of the theatrics of MAGA especially since it's become more expensive to live in America. Trump's ability to entertain is not as important now. Biden was an antique with cognitive deficits and Trump is 80 and in a diaper and seems especially focused on insulting others and what he wants to build and rename. It's just a fact that men age quicker than women and our brains and plumbing don't work as well as we get older.

There are generational issues emerging in the West and parts of Asia. It's expensive to keep us around for years in our retirement, especially with our incredible healthcare prices. Events in France and western Europe reflect a generational conflict to some degree because the group that benefits the most from social welfare programs is the elderly. HeIl I want social security, I qualify next year, and Medicare to cover whatever expensive procedure I need to live longer. Young Americans get crapped on a lot because some are crazy and pampered and have unrealistic expectations, but they really didn't create the system we live in nor the $40 trillion in debt we incurred mostly in the last couple of decades. Most are good, decent Americans. It's time to give them a turn. I hope our next president is closer to age 55 than 80.
 

She Mate Me

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And Cindy is not. Whether you agree with either of them or not, just on a personal level if you have to spend time with one or the other, he's going to win that in a landslide.

You don’t rise through the levels she has as a female politician in Mississippi without some level of political talent. I think hers has been that she’s tough behind the scenes and savvy enough to know her weaknesses. That’s why you don’t see much of her. She knows she’s not going to win undecideds with her personality.
 

615dawg

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I think there is some truth of MAGA has run its course, but a 45 point R-D swing in 18-34 year old men tells me everything I need to know.

The affordability crisis is real, and its the No. 1 issue in the country.
 
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You don’t rise through the levels she has as a female politician in Mississippi without some level of political talent. I think hers has been that she’s tough behind the scenes and savvy enough to know her weaknesses. That’s why you don’t see much of her. She knows she’s not going to win undecideds with her personality.
I guess that’s what makes her “weak” even though no one on this message board can define was it means to be a a “weak” Senator.
 
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The crossover votes happened across the country. It’s more an indictment of what’s going on with Trump and the country more than anything.
Obviously that sentiment is there, but its still really damn hard to lose a general Senate election in MS as a Republican. There hasn’t been a newly elected Democrat senator from Mississippi in 79 years. This race wasn’t even supposed to be close.

Wayyyyy too big of a departure from the status quo to attribute only to Trump. If that’s all it was, you wouldn’t see Republicans keeping House seats, either.
 
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Obviously that sentiment is there, but its still really damn hard to lose a general Senate election in MS as a Republican. There hasn’t been a newly elected Democrat senator from Mississippi in 79 years. This race wasn’t even supposed to be close.

Wayyyyy too big of a departure from the status quo to attribute only to Trump. If that’s all it was, you wouldn’t see Republicans keeping House seats, either.
Colom is a good candidate and much more electable than anyone they’ve run in years. It’s usually a clown show.
 

615dawg

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THIS. Same for senators, congressmen, governors, judges, etc. all the way down. We have had and still have far too many people in varying stages of mental and physical decline holding important offices.
Gen X has been completely skipped in high level politics.

I was in 7th grade when Bill Clinton was elected president.

Bill Clinton is younger than Donald Trump.
 
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People are just tired of all the bullsht in Washington or what they consider bullsht. It's why they were willing to take a chance on Trump - twice.

He couldn't help but give them more of the same and more of it because he is who he is.

Now people are still wanting something else. And they just might get it.

Hope they're prepared.

(See survivalist thread.)
 
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People are just tired of all the bullsht in Washington or what they consider bullsht. It's why they were willing to take a chance on Trump - twice.

He couldn't help but give them more of the same and more of it because he is who he is.

Now people are still wanting something else. And they just might get it.

Hope they're prepared.

(See survivalist thread.)
Oh good lord it’s one election.
 

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When Bryant appointed CHS I was really surprised, just because there seemed to be so many better candidates. I asked a lobbyist/well-connected friend of mine why Bryant chose her, and was told that Bryant wanted somebody who wasn't too old (which eliminated Delbert) and had won statewide office before (which eliminated congressmen). Tate was Lt. Gov. at the time, and Bryant might have been willing to offer it to him, but Tate's kids were still young, and he didn't want to move them to DC, or spend most of the year in DC without them. So CHS was the only one who met Bryant's criteria, and who wanted the job.

Last night when I saw the statewide numbers were so tight, I was shocked to drill down and see that Colom was carrying DeSoto and Madison counties. That's a huge red flag for a Mississippi Republican that something is very, very wrong.
 

patdog

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When Bryant appointed CHS I was really surprised, just because there seemed to be so many better candidates. I asked a lobbyist/well-connected friend of mine why Bryant chose her, and was told that Bryant wanted somebody who wasn't too old (which eliminated Delbert) and had won statewide office before (which eliminated congressmen). Tate was Lt. Gov. at the time, and Bryant might have been willing to offer it to him, but Tate's kids were still young, and he didn't want to move them to DC, or spend most of the year in DC without them. So CHS was the only one who met Bryant's criteria, and who wanted the job.

Last night when I saw the statewide numbers were so tight, I was shocked to drill down and see that Colom was carrying DeSoto and Madison counties. That's a huge red flag for a Mississippi Republican that something is very, very wrong.
Interesting and makes sense. What Bryant should have done was appoint someone on an interim basis who wasn't going to run for office and let the people decide. And yes, there's a lot of huge red flags that should have Republicans nationwide taking a long deep look at where they are and what they need to do to get relevant again. Because they are at a very critical junction right now.
 
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THIS. Same for senators, congressmen, governors, judges, etc. all the way down. We have had and still have far too many people in varying stages of mental and physical decline holding important offices.
It's honestly sad how much of their identity they wrap up in political office. I hope I'm long retired and get to spend meaningful time with my family before I start having mini strokes, etc.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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People are just tired of all the bullsht in Washington or what they consider bullsht. It's why they were willing to take a chance on Trump - twice.

He couldn't help but give them more of the same and more of it because he is who he is.

Now people are still wanting something else. And they just might get it.

Hope they're prepared.

(See survivalist thread.)
still amazed there is tin foil in stock....
 
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horshack.sixpack

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When Bryant appointed CHS I was really surprised, just because there seemed to be so many better candidates. I asked a lobbyist/well-connected friend of mine why Bryant chose her, and was told that Bryant wanted somebody who wasn't too old (which eliminated Delbert) and had won statewide office before (which eliminated congressmen). Tate was Lt. Gov. at the time, and Bryant might have been willing to offer it to him, but Tate's kids were still young, and he didn't want to move them to DC, or spend most of the year in DC without them. So CHS was the only one who met Bryant's criteria, and who wanted the job.

Last night when I saw the statewide numbers were so tight, I was shocked to drill down and see that Colom was carrying DeSoto and Madison counties. That's a huge red flag for a Mississippi Republican that something is very, very wrong.
I'm actually encouraged if Tate chose his family over more political clout. Kudos.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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Interesting and makes sense. What Bryant should have done was appoint someone on an interim basis who wasn't going to run for office and let the people decide. And yes, there's a lot of huge red flags that should have Republicans nationwide taking a long deep look at where they are and what they need to do to get relevant again. Because they are at a very critical junction right now.
A good start would be taking back the party from MAGA and returning it to conservative values and meaningful policy ideas.
 
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All I know is two years ago Trump was in position to do so much good for the average American and I was pumped. After killing DOGE before it really got started, protecting the Epstein Class/Swamp, and getting us in a War that has made everything unaffordable it's hard for me to get behind a politician that whole platform is "I voted for all of Trump's policies".
 

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It does set up an interesting dynamic going into a reset year for statewide elections in 2027. Candidate quality on the Dem side is usually pretty poor other than maybe one or two names, but would a Colom win prompt some to enter the mix that maybe wouldn’t have run for a big office previously because it felt like a waste of time? I don’t even know who that would be, just a general thought.

Occam’s razor is probably that this is more of an indictment on Cindy and Trump than it is a big MS shift to the left. But it could mean MS gets more attention and support from the national Democratic Party than it has in a while.
 
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dorndawg

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It does set up an interesting dynamic going into a reset year for statewide elections in 2027. Candidate quality on the Dem side is usually pretty poor other than maybe one or two names, but would a Colom win prompt some to enter the mix that maybe wouldn’t have run for a big office previously because it felt like a waste of time? I don’t even know who that would be, just a general thought.

Occam’s razor is probably that this is more of an indictment on Cindy and Trump than it is a big MS shift to the left. But it could mean MS gets more attention and support from the national Democratic Party than it has in a while.
Yep I definitely think the range of what's possible has been expanded in Mississippi.
 

Pookieray

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Obviously that sentiment is there, but its still really damn hard to lose a general Senate election in MS as a Republican. There hasn’t been a newly elected Democrat senator from Mississippi in 79 years. This race wasn’t even supposed to be close.

Wayyyyy too big of a departure from the status quo to attribute only to Trump. If that’s all it was, you wouldn’t see Republicans keeping House seats, either.
It’s only hard to lose as a republican as long as the AA vote doesn’t turn out. But if they decide to start turning out in great numbers, as I saw yesterday, it’ll be hard to win as a republican going forward. There was an obvious push to turn them out yesterday.
 

L4Dawg

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Interesting and makes sense. What Bryant should have done was appoint someone on an interim basis who wasn't going to run for office and let the people decide. And yes, there's a lot of huge red flags that should have Republicans nationwide taking a long deep look at where they are and what they need to do to get relevant again. Because they are at a very critical junction right now.
If they don't take a long deep look, and make some drastic changes, it will be even worse in 2028.
 
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DoggieDaddy13

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All kidding aside, I think it shows that a good number of Mississippians are more than willing to vote person over party.

And that's probably a good sign.

Colom is a good guy and turned out to be a pretty exceptional candidate. Win or lose, I hope he stays in the ring.
 

Drebin

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It appears that Americans are getting tired of the theatrics of MAGA especially since it's become more expensive to live in America. Trump's ability to entertain is not as important now. Biden was an antique with cognitive deficits and Trump is 80 and in a diaper and seems especially focused on insulting others and what he wants to build and rename. It's just a fact that men age quicker than women and our brains and plumbing don't work as well as we get older.

There are generational issues emerging in the West and parts of Asia. It's expensive to keep us around for years in our retirement, especially with our incredible healthcare prices. Events in France and western Europe reflect a generational conflict to some degree because the group that benefits the most from social welfare programs is the elderly. HeIl I want social security, I qualify next year, and Medicare to cover whatever expensive procedure I need to live longer. Young Americans get crapped on a lot because some are crazy and pampered and have unrealistic expectations, but they really didn't create the system we live in nor the $40 trillion in debt we incurred mostly in the last couple of decades. Most are good, decent Americans. It's time to give them a turn. I hope our next president is closer to age 55 than 80.
This would be less disingenuous if it was actually more expensive to live in America than it was two/three years ago. Consumer spending and consumer sentiment metrics do not match the affordability narrative. Yeah, yeah, housing, food prices, gas, etc. It was all worse under Biden.

The GOP got wiped out for three main reasons: Trump fumbled the Iran thing and pissed off much of his own base; two, the media gave more oxygen to emotional theatrics around ICE, affordability, and general Trumpian BS, and three, people are just sick of Donald Trump. I'm one of them. The difference between me and a lot of the mental midgets out there is that I still had the testicular fortitude to avoid pulling the lever for a communist.
 

randystewart

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I wish more people understood that no matter what side you vote for now, it does not matter. Each party is tied to the most extreme members on the right and left. Until there is a legitimate 3rd party that goes to the middle (think old school Blue Dog Dems) nothing will change. We'll simply continue to have these waves where we swing back and forth over the course of 4-8 years. Some middle ground party would probably encompass most of us if we are being honest.
Now, on the best interest of MS.... We only have power if we keep electing people to congress until they die (Republican or Democrat). There is no positive for MS in CHS being voted out, none, zero. She was just placed on Defense Appropriations when Graham died and was finally poised to be able to help the state bring projects and companies in. Now, we've voted her out for a likable guy that will have no power and has a less than zero chance of being elected again. Colom's next race will line up with a Presidential election and he will lose by 8 points with that turnout in MS. It is what it is, but those celebrating this for Mississippi are just flat out wrong. I get celebrating on an individual basis because you didn't like her or you hate Trump, but this is a huge loss for Mississippi
 

hailmari1

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She forgot to read the tea leaves and un-MAGA. Leaned hard on Trump including in person campaigning.
Exactly. She never sounded like anything other than a Trump’s billionaire boot licker club member to me.

I really underestimated how many people were paying attention and made the flip since the Republican Party hardly exists right now. It’s been replaced by this MAGA garbage and the results across the country show it.

Forget all the rage bait culture war stuff people love regurgitating - just look at where money has been going across the nation. People can hide behind their innate awfulness toward other people and dress it up as Christianity all they want, but MAGA simply wasn’t working for the people. They were duped.
 

MSUDC11-2.0

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If they don't take a long deep look, and make some drastic changes, it will be even worse in 2028.

If the R’s wake up and realize that the guy in charge is 80 years old, as unpopular as he’s ever been, and not even eligible to run again, and they pivot to a new direction, they can make some semblance of a comeback in ‘28.

If they decide they are going down with the Titanic, 2028 is going to be really bad for them.

The thing is, we already may be at a point where the Dem’s can just play it safe for two years, get behind a candidate who doesn’t seem totally insane, and they might roll again in ‘28 anyway.

But both sides are disaster artists that thrive on messing it up once they gain any kind of momentum.
 

Pookieray

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People are just tired of all the bullsht in Washington or what they consider bullsht. It's why they were willing to take a chance on Trump - twice.

He couldn't help but give them more of the same and more of it because he is who he is.

Now people are still wanting something else. And they just might get it.

Hope they're prepared.

(See survivalist thread.)
The 20-40 year olds will be deciding the next president. Yeah, the same ones that want you to look at them on tic-toc and in the gym and call you a pig for looking at them in the gym.
Someone posted the % of 18-25 year old females that have an only fans acct, and they are more likely to vote than their counterpart.
 

Drebin

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When Bryant appointed CHS I was really surprised, just because there seemed to be so many better candidates. I asked a lobbyist/well-connected friend of mine why Bryant chose her, and was told that Bryant wanted somebody who wasn't too old (which eliminated Delbert) and had won statewide office before (which eliminated congressmen). Tate was Lt. Gov. at the time, and Bryant might have been willing to offer it to him, but Tate's kids were still young, and he didn't want to move them to DC, or spend most of the year in DC without them. So CHS was the only one who met Bryant's criteria, and who wanted the job.

Last night when I saw the statewide numbers were so tight, I was shocked to drill down and see that Colom was carrying DeSoto and Madison counties. That's a huge red flag for a Mississippi Republican that something is very, very wrong.
There's quite a bit of disaffection going on in Desoto County right now. Particularly in and around Southaven with the mayor. And I know the dude personally and like him, but he's pissed a lot of people off.
 

Pookieray

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When Bryant appointed CHS I was really surprised, just because there seemed to be so many better candidates. I asked a lobbyist/well-connected friend of mine why Bryant chose her, and was told that Bryant wanted somebody who wasn't too old (which eliminated Delbert) and had won statewide office before (which eliminated congressmen). Tate was Lt. Gov. at the time, and Bryant might have been willing to offer it to him, but Tate's kids were still young, and he didn't want to move them to DC, or spend most of the year in DC without them. So CHS was the only one who met Bryant's criteria, and who wanted the job.

Last night when I saw the statewide numbers were so tight, I was shocked to drill down and see that Colom was carrying DeSoto and Madison counties. That's a huge red flag for a Mississippi Republican that something is very, very wrong.
DeSoto Co has so many transplants from states that would be considered “liberal”.
This is info that I was told by someone in the DC school system.
 
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