MSU announces all time high enrollment, 18,601

[DawgatAuburn]

It's not as good as you think....

SIX YEAR GRADUATION
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</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 49pt;" width="65">1999 grad</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 49pt;" width="65">2000 grad</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 49pt;" width="65">2001 grad</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 49pt;" width="65">2002 grad</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MSU</td> <td class="xl63">56</td> <td class="xl63">58</td> <td class="xl63">58</td> <td class="xl63">60</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UM</td> <td class="xl63">56</td> <td class="xl63">?</td> <td class="xl63">?</td> <td class="xl63">?</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">AU</td> <td class="xl63">56</td> <td class="xl63">63</td> <td class="xl63">63</td> <td class="xl63">64</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Bama</td> <td class="xl63">63</td> <td class="xl63">63</td> <td class="xl63">65.1</td> <td class="xl63">64.5</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LSU</td> <td class="xl63">59</td> <td class="xl63">59</td> <td class="xl63">59.8</td> <td class="xl63">60.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UGA</td> <td class="xl63">74.5</td> <td class="xl63">76.9</td> <td class="xl63">78.2</td> <td class="xl63">79.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">ARK</td> <td class="xl63">56.4</td> <td class="xl63">55.5</td> <td class="xl63">58</td> <td class="xl63">57.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">USC</td> <td class="xl63">64.5</td> <td class="xl63">62.4</td> <td class="xl63">62.8</td> <td class="xl63">66.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UT</td> <td class="xl63">57.2</td> <td class="xl63">60.1</td> <td class="xl63">57.8</td> <td class="xl63">59.8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UK</td> <td class="xl63">60</td> <td class="xl63">59</td> <td class="xl63">61</td> <td class="xl63">58</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UF</td> <td class="xl63">79</td> <td class="xl63">79</td> <td class="xl63">81</td> <td class="xl63">81.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">VU</td> <td class="xl63">88</td> <td class="xl63">89</td> <td class="xl63">91</td> <td class="xl63">89</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Clem</td> <td class="xl63">75</td> <td class="xl63">75</td> <td class="xl63">78</td> <td class="xl63">79</td> </tr> </tbody> </col></col></table>

RETENTION
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</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 33pt;" width="44">fall 05</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 33pt;" width="44">fall 06</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 33pt;" width="44">fall 07</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">MSU</td> <td class="xl65">82</td> <td class="xl65">83</td> <td class="xl65">84</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UM</td> <td class="xl65">80</td> <td class="xl65">80.5</td> <td class="xl65">78.3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">AU</td> <td class="xl65">85</td> <td class="xl65">86</td> <td class="xl65">87</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Bama</td> <td class="xl65">85</td> <td class="xl65">86.8</td> <td class="xl65">84.3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">LSU</td> <td class="xl65">82.6</td> <td class="xl65">84.7</td> <td class="xl65">85.4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UGA</td> <td class="xl65">93.9</td> <td class="xl65">93.1</td> <td class="xl65">93</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">ARK</td> <td class="xl65">83</td> <td class="xl65">82.8</td> <td class="xl65">80.7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">USC</td> <td class="xl65">86</td> <td class="xl65">86.9</td> <td class="xl65">87.2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UT</td> <td class="xl65">81.7</td> <td class="xl65">84</td> <td class="xl65">83.6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UK</td> <td class="xl65">78</td> <td class="xl65">76</td> <td class="xl65">81</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">UF</td> <td class="xl65">94</td> <td class="xl65">95</td> <td class="xl65">95</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">VU</td> <td class="xl65">96</td> <td class="xl65">96</td> <td class="xl65">97</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Clem</td> <td class="xl65">89</td> <td class="xl65">90</td> <td class="xl65">91.5</td> </tr> </tbody> </col></col></table>

 

[theOriginalOne]

With the new bypass, there's plenty of room for Starkville to grow.

 

[615dawg]

Happy Birthday by the way.

 

[DudyDog]

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20090909/NEWS/909090368/Graduation-rates--United-for-higher-ed

 

[patdog]

Either Starkville or Oxford (and our campuses) could grow to meet the demands of more students.

 

[RebelBruiser]

My guess is that a cap would not be allowed by the state, just because it would end up effectively creating a higher minimum requirement, though I do think an enrollment cap could be a good thing.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

If I recall correctly, all Mississippi public universities have to have similar academic entrance standards-- all of them corresponding to Division I athletics admittance standards-- including D II Delta State, and D II is supposedly a little bit looser. I might be remembering wrong though.

 

[sixpackmafia]

to show my wife that I am smarter than her

 

[elguapo543]

Allow me to put a few things into perspective:

MTSU: 19,900 Undergrad, 22,516 Total Enrollment
University of Tennessee: 21,475 Undergrad, 27,248 Total Enrollment
University of Memphis: 15,000 Undergrad, 20,000 Total Enrollment

UL-L: 15,500 Undergrad, 17,075 Total Enrollment
LSU: 21,103 Undergrad, 25,538 Total Enrollment

Troy University: 21,610 Undergrad, 29,580 Total Enrollment
Alabama: 21,064 Undergrad, 28,807 Total Enrollment
Auburn: 20,302 Undergrad, 24,137.

And now, for us:

MSU: 18,601 Total Enrollment
University of Mississippi: 18,345 Total Enrollment.

Sidenote: I was looking for our school's undergraduate numbers... Someone on wikipedia has already updated State's enrollment and added the notation "largest university in the state." I understand school pride, but this seems a bit pedantic, doesn't it?

Anyway, note that Troy is larger than either Alabama or Auburn, and that MTSU rivals UT by a similar margin as State and UM. This 'my dick is bigger' stuff is pretty !*@$!*+ stupid, no matter which side is "winning" the contest. HOWEVER, it is refreshing to see that both of our enrollments are trending towards our larger SEC brethren. While its no guarantee, as one poster mentioned, larger enrollment = larger alumni bases, and nothing happens without a sound alumni base.

 

[LightninInside]

Good points El Guapo. It is simply nice to see that MSU continues to move in the right direction. I am sure that the posters on your message board are excited about your rate of increase albeit lower than ours.
I think you can see where some State fans are excited about this news because of the factors described earlier, including the higher retention, higher graduation rates, higher test scores and nicer campus and facilities. This is why I think the applicants are willing to pay our higher tuition.

I may go to your board later to see the enthusiasm from your side!

 

[LightninInside]

Here is the copy/paste from the link posted early in this thread. They are doing well in their own right. I only looked at it to see if my hunch was right about our continuing to grab some of the top hs grads in the state based upon the entrance exams. I was trying not to reference any of the other colleges specifically, moreso just speaking to the positioninng of MSU.

9/9/09 - Record enrollment for UM
Melanie Addington
Staff Writer

While the University of Mississippi has its largest enrollment ever this year, the state is asking for more cuts to an already tight budget.

During a budget presentation Tuesday to the Faculty Senate, Provost Morris Stocks announced the largest incoming freshmen and transfer class with 15,921 students enrolled university wide, up from 15,289 last year.

For the first time in the university's history, minority enrollment has topped 20 percent of the student body (3,316 students). The Oxford campus is at 14,333, up from 13,685, and enrollment at the UM Medical Center in Jackson is also up with 2,414 students compared to 2,312 the year before.

The regional satellite campuses were slightly down from 1,604 last year to 1,588 this year. International students and graduate student numbers are up as well.

Also on the rise are the incoming freshmen ACT scores, which are at 23.3 this year, up from 23 in 2008-09. Retention is also up 2.8 percent from last year at 81.1 percent, but still not at the target goal of 85 percent.

 

[elguapo543]

There just seemed to be some underlying premise in some poster's arguments that MSU was "winning" at the enrollment game. All I was observing was that - if this is truly a game to be played - both schools have a long, long way to go compared to our peers (look at the numbers for Alabama and Auburn; though I expected UT to be larger, for some reason).

That, and I had to address the one poster's assertion regarding the superiority of State that was premised solely on State's enrollment size. Troy can make those same claims in Alabama, mind you.

 

[elguapo543]

How big is it? Do they keep track of individual stats? I was only curious because our HC is now up to 800 some odd freshman with a median of 30. Thats becoming an increasingly large chunk of the freshman class, which begs the question: what is the average of the non-HC freshmen?

I was wondering if there is a similar effect at State.

I am earnestly jealous of state in one aspect, though... my other alma mater, MSMS, is a pipeline directed straight into MSU. I know a ton of great MSMS/State Grads... I wish we could get more students away from there than we do.

 

[LightninInside]

You make very good points about the numbers game and your example in AL is good.

My discussion was simply to point out to fellow MSU fans that we have a lot to be proud of.

 

[LightninInside]

I have not had time to get to the UM message board so thank you for bringing some of it to us. I can see where your HC enrollment is something to get excited about. Speaking of ACT scores, I am sure this helps bring your overall average up assuming that they are in fact scoring higher than the majority of the remaining underclass.

A lot to be proud of from both sides I think.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

That counts all their campuses and their enrollment worldwide under University College. Troy in Troy has about 7,000 students.

 

[elguapo543]

I simply skimmed through the knowledge wikipedia readily had available. That being said, my post is still quite relevant. A modest size differential doesn't seem to negatively or favorably impact athletics. If it did, then both our schools would be utterly boned, compared to the other SEC schools. If having 1000 more students gives MSU a competitive edge against Ole Miss, the fact that we're both down 7-20k students on the other SEC schools means we'll never have a prayer, for the foreseeable future.

 

[Mr Meoff]

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