MSU, BP Chairman N.A. Lamar McKay took a beating yesterday

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by our congressman. I for one am embarrased by the reaction from our government both in congress and from the President. Leadership is not about putting a boot on BP's neck at this critical time when all the focus should be on stopping the leak and containing the mess. There seems to be more emphasis on showboating and *** kicking than there is on working together to solve this problem.There will be plenty of time after it is over to affix blame and punishment. </p>
 

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by our congressman. I for one am embarrased by the reaction from our government both in congress and from the President. Leadership is not about putting a boot on BP's neck at this critical time when all the focus should be on stopping the leak and containing the mess. There seems to be more emphasis on showboating and *** kicking than there is on working together to solve this problem.There will be plenty of time after it is over to affix blame and punishment. </p>
 

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by our congressman. I for one am embarrased by the reaction from our government both in congress and from the President. Leadership is not about putting a boot on BP's neck at this critical time when all the focus should be on stopping the leak and containing the mess. There seems to be more emphasis on showboating and *** kicking than there is on working together to solve this problem.There will be plenty of time after it is over to affix blame and punishment. </p>
 

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with all this **** he deserves to take a beating. He has essentially ruined the seafood and tourist industries on the gulf coast. An oyster distribution company in New Orleans that has been in business for 123 years or something had to shut down. Seafood prices are rising. The beaches in Orange beach are empty in the middle of June. Commercial and recreational fishing are closed.

BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.
 

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it isn't just McKay it's the Brit, and all the other U.S. executives that are being pounded at the wrong time. There is no doubt in my mind that they all want the leak stopped and are doing all they can to stop it and dogging their *** out at this crucial time is notgood leadership. Just my opinion. By the way the leak is Ole Miss's fault someway somehow!
 

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It's inexcusable that BP even allowed this disaster to happen in the first place, but their response (and lack of preparation to respond) to it has been even worse.
 

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as part of the normal process just in case it is needed I believe, why don't we do that? I am not saying he and others at BP don't deserve to be reamed, they obviously do,I am just talking about the timing.
 

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they aren't cleaning the beaches, they aren't stopping the damn well. Why shouldn't they be cussed out again? Not cussing them out sure hasn't worked.
 

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They were negligent and caused it, and they've been less than open, honest, and urgent since. Somebody needs to actually physically beat some of those BP clowns, and it needs to be done a month ago.
 

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I was in England all last week, and they're all pissed off at Obama because he's dog-cussing BP, not because they think BP shouldn't take the heat for dumping a ****-ton of crude into the Gulf of Mexico, but because BP pays into the British pension system, and Obama making them pay all this money is going to hurt their retirement checks.
 

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I bet that requirement is one reason there's probably more drilling in the Gulf than there is in the Barents Sea.</p>
 

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how about our government soliciting the help of Norway and others that are experts in this area and who have skimmers large enough and numerous enough to keep all this oil off our shores, now that would be effective leadership.
 

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how about our government soliciting the help of Norway and others that are experts in this area and who have skimmers large enough and numerous enough to keep all this oil off our shores, now that would be effective leadership.
If you're waiting for Obama to lead, you'll be waiting a while. He's just a puppet, and his strings are pulled by the media and opinion poles.
 

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shut the hell up and fix the leak. I want to punch that guy in the face everytime he comes on tv.
 

coach66

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in my life and this whole things makes me sick. I go back to my statement earlier, let's get some folks in here that have experience and equipment and keep it contained and stop the leak. Let's stop busting people's balls for political affect.</p>
 

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You obviously don't watch Fox News. If you did, this thread, as well as the C34 "Hollywood" thread would make much more sense. Fox talking points, taken to the interwebs.
 

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and cleaned up are two mutually exclusive things. They're not. Yes the government needs to do a better job in a lot of ways (as does BP). But at some point you have to come down on the people responsible for this cluster-17. As the head of BP America our alumnus is the point man for that. And he deserves it, because it was HIS responsiblity toensure that this never happened, and even if it did happen it was stopped and cleaned up promptly. Nobody can argue that he hasn't utterly failed in hisjob.
 

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much screaming and same old horse ****, I watch CNN, boy they are a conservative fair/balancedbunch but at least they are watchable.
 

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Have you not noticed that the markets are up nearly 100% since March '09? Been living under a rock?
 

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I recently took a not so small stake in BP (not kidding) and I'm thinking about GM once it's available.
 

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more balls than me on that one. With the clowns in Washington scrambling for attention from this whole thing it would not surprise me to see BP come out of this thing with no dividend and near bankruptcy. I have been watching the GM progression and I agree there may be opportunity there. Good luck!
 

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Yep. Somebody needs to let them know they are going to be held accountable. Now, I am sure BP is saying they are going to do this and that just to get the people and media off their back. Cleaning up the gulf, marshes, and beaches for instance........I don't see anyway possible BP could have the resources to get this done. I think everyone is aware how big of an area we are talking about. Obviously, they will have to contract it out. But without someone making sure they are taking steps to hire contractors or pay local city/county officials to do the job, I see them coming up with an excuse as to why the clean up is not happening.

In the latest news, I read where Obama is saying that BP will be collecting 95% of this 35-60K barrels a day next week. Yeah right. What will be the excuse next week when they are still collecting 15K? What will be the excuse when September rolls around and the relief well isn't finished or operating? The US Government needs to stay on their *** to make sure these things get done asap.
 

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rem101 said:
with all this **** he deserves to take a beating. He has essentially ruined the seafood and tourist industries on the gulf coast. An oyster distribution company in New Orleans that has been in business for 123 years or something had to shut down. Seafood prices are rising. The beaches in Orange beach are empty in the middle of June. Commercial and recreational fishing are closed.

BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Before anyone goes and drives BP into bankruptcy,we need to understand that BP has thousands ofLA, MS, AL, TX and Fl folks working for them and many others have their retirement tied up in BP stock.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>Yes BP had an oil leak and they should be responsible butto say“BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.” is just plain ignorance.Hell they are losing billions with this leak. The best way to stop to stop losing money is to plug the damn hole. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>On the other side the government failed to take immediate action to save the coast line.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>There were a lot of things that could have been done that was not.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Why, I guess you have to ask them but I don’t think you will get a straight answer from anyone in the White house. The President acts like a virgin in a ***** house.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>He has no clue as to what he is doing or does anyone around him. These people are very ignorant and they are arrogant about it.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>They are blaming everyone but themselves.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Stop the leak, clean the beaches and marsh land then hash it out later. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"></span>Damn 2012 can’t get here fast enough</span></p>
 

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rem101 said:
with all this **** he deserves to take a beating. He has essentially ruined the seafood and tourist industries on the gulf coast. An oyster distribution company in New Orleans that has been in business for 123 years or something had to shut down. Seafood prices are rising. The beaches in Orange beach are empty in the middle of June. Commercial and recreational fishing are closed.

BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.
can the gulf states like MS, AL, FL, LA sue BP for lost tourism or seafood sales revenue? I would really like to see that happen...
 

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jackstefano said:
Have you not noticed that the markets are up nearly 100% since March '09? Been living under a rock?
It isstill down over 3000 points from it high. That's trillions of wealth lost.
 

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I mean a 120+ year old company should have enough cash to go a couple months. I'm not defending BP in any way, just that something was up anyway.
 

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Big D said:
rem101 said:
with all this **** he deserves to take a beating. He has essentially ruined the seafood and tourist industries on the gulf coast. An oyster distribution company in New Orleans that has been in business for 123 years or something had to shut down. Seafood prices are rising. The beaches in Orange beach are empty in the middle of June. Commercial and recreational fishing are closed.

BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';">Before anyone goes and drives BP into bankruptcy,we need to understand that BP has thousands ofLA, MS, AL, TX and Fl folks working for them and many others have their retirement tied up in BP stock.<span style=""> </span><span style=""></span><span style="font-weight: bold;">Yes BP had an oil leak</span> and they should be responsible butto say“BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.” is just plain ignorance.Hell they are losing billions with this leak. The best way to stop to stop losing money is to plug the damn hole. <span style=""></span>On the other side the government failed to take immediate action to save the coast line.<span style=""> </span>There were a lot of things that could have been done that was not.<span style=""> </span>Why, I guess you have to ask them but I don’t think you will get a straight answer from anyone in the White house. The President acts like a virgin in a ***** house.<span style=""> </span>He has no clue as to what he is doing or does anyone around him. These people are very ignorant and they are arrogant about it.<span style=""> </span>They are blaming everyone but themselves.<span style=""> </span>Stop the leak, clean the beaches and marsh land then hash it out later. <span style=""></span>Damn 2012 can’t get here fast enough</span></p>
No. BP did not have an oil leak. BP killed 11 people and has caused an almost unbelievable disaster.
 

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Seshomoru said:
Big D said:
rem101 said:
with all this **** he deserves to take a beating. He has essentially ruined the seafood and tourist industries on the gulf coast. An oyster distribution company in New Orleans that has been in business for 123 years or something had to shut down. Seafood prices are rising. The beaches in Orange beach are empty in the middle of June. Commercial and recreational fishing are closed.

BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.

<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Before anyone goes and drives BP into bankruptcy,we need to understand that BP has thousands ofLA, MS, AL, TX and Fl folks working for them and many others have their retirement tied up in BP stock.<span> </span><span></span><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Yes BP had an oil leak</span> and they should be responsible butto say“BP has been more interested in trying to salvage as much oil from the spill to sell than it has been trying to stop the damn thing.” is just plain ignorance.Hell they are losing billions with this leak. The best way to stop to stop losing money is to plug the damn hole. <span></span>On the other side the government failed to take immediate action to save the coast line.<span> </span>There were a lot of things that could have been done that was not.<span> </span>Why, I guess you have to ask them but I don’t think you will get a straight answer from anyone in the White house. The President acts like a virgin in a ***** house.<span> </span>He has no clue as to what he is doing or does anyone around him. These people are very ignorant and they are arrogant about it.<span> </span>They are blaming everyone but themselves.<span> </span>Stop the leak, clean the beaches and marsh land then hash it out later. <span></span>Damn 2012 can’t get here fast enough</span></p>
No. BP did not have an oil leak. BP killed 11 people and has caused an almost unbelievable disaster.
People die everyday in work related acidents. Let's wait and see what happen before you go saying BP killed someone but first lets plug the leak and clean the mess up.
 

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I didn't say the seafood wasn't still good. Just that it cost more at certain restaurants, not all. And it could be just that restaurant upping their prices because they can right now and blame it on something else.

And yes, I agree that the government should do more. Assistance was offered within a day or 2 of the explosion, but dubmass didn't accept it. And there should be more regulations. But BP was not exactly hustling to get it stopped either. Only after the coast guard said something did they say they could speed up the process.
 

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Optimus Prime 4 said:
I mean a 120+ year old company should have enough cash to go a couple months. I'm not defending BP in any way, just that something was up anyway.


Louisiana beds shut down and fresh water killing the open beds = no oysters to shuck for the unforseeable future, not just a couple of months. ] explains who P&J is and why it could be up to 18 months or more, given the most generous/optimistic of conditions, for oysters to come about again. For now P&J's is shipping in some shucked oysters from Alabama to supply to local restaurants.
 

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rem101 said:
I didn't say the seafood wasn't still good. Just that it cost more at certain restaurants, not all. And it could be just that restaurant upping their prices because they can right now and blame it on something else.

And yes, I agree that the government should do more. Assistance was offered within a day or 2 of the explosion, but dubmass didn't accept it. And there should be more regulations. But BP was not exactly hustling to get it stopped either. Only after the coast guard said something did they say they could speed up the process.


The government's own scientists have been telling the higher-ups from very early on that BP was vastly underestimating the amount of oil flowing but they chose to ignore their OWN PEOPLE in favor of BP's lies. It's frustrating to see both entities act like asses over this.
 

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People die everyday in work related acidents. Let's wait and see what happen before you go saying BP killed someone but first lets plug the leak and clean the mess up.

those companies are sued and pay for that negligence. Also, I am pretty sure we have seen what happened, so there is not point in waiting to see what else happens.

As to the thousands of local people working for BP, I can only hope that tBP is required to pay those people due to lost work on top of the unemployment they should be receiving.