Mt. Airy vs Starmount Game Review and Comments

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Below is the link to the Mt. Airy News Article on the game. It was a great game. Starmount certainly came back, but there's something many fans may not be aware of. Mt. Airy starts 5 offensive lineman that had never started before this game. The sophomore QB for Mt. Airy is very talented, but again he's a sophomore and this is his first go at it. He threw for over 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. The most important take away from this game is the following...……...Mt. Airy had 4 starters suspended and these 4 players are not just good, they are 4 of their best 8 players overall. This made a huge, huge, huge impact on Mt. Airy's defense last night.

I don't want to take away anything from Starmount which played a great game and made it close, but 5 games from now or about halfway through the season, and this Mt. Airy team vs Starmount wouldn't be nearly as close. The offensive line and QB are super talented and they are going to get far better at a rate compared to many others schools because of their inexperience. Mt. Airy had about 550 yards of offense last night. Credit Starmount in conditioning. Mt. Airy came into the game clearly out of shape and not well conditioned. It showed in the second half as they were gassed. Look for Mt. Airy to be a real problem statewide come playoff time, especially as they get the 4 starters back this coming week, and that talented O-Line and QB get more games under their belts, and they get in better shape.


https://www.mtairynews.com/sports/high-school-football/64396/bears-open-with-exciting-45-38-win
 
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I was told the ones that were suspended would be contributors, not starters.

Mount Airy needs some work on their punt team. Two big mistakes on that squad.
 

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Below is the link to the Mt. Airy News Article on the game. It was a great game. Starmount certainly came back, but there's something many fans may not be aware of. Mt. Airy starts 5 offensive lineman that had never started before this game. The sophomore QB for Mt. Airy is very talented, but again he's a sophomore and this is his first go at it. He threw for over 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. The most important take away from this game is the following...……...Mt. Airy had 4 starters suspended and these 4 players are not just good, they are 4 of their best 8 players overall. This made a huge, huge, huge impact on Mt. Airy's defense last night.

I don't want to take away anything from Starmount which played a great game and made it close, but 5 games from now or about halfway through the season, and this Mt. Airy team vs Starmount wouldn't be nearly as close. The offensive line and QB are super talented and they are going to get far better at a rate compared to many others schools because of their inexperience. Mt. Airy had about 550 yards of offense last night. Credit Starmount in conditioning. Mt. Airy came into the game clearly out of shape and not well conditioned. It showed in the second half as they were gassed. Look for Mt. Airy to be a real problem statewide come playoff time, especially as they get the 4 starters back this coming week, and that talented O-Line and QB get more games under their belts, and they get in better shape.


https://www.mtairynews.com/sports/high-school-football/64396/bears-open-with-exciting-45-38-win
ALL teams usually get better as the season goes along....
 

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Below is the link to the Mt. Airy News Article on the game. It was a great game. Starmount certainly came back, but there's something many fans may not be aware of. Mt. Airy starts 5 offensive lineman that had never started before this game. The sophomore QB for Mt. Airy is very talented, but again he's a sophomore and this is his first go at it. He threw for over 350 yards and 4 touchdowns. The most important take away from this game is the following...……...Mt. Airy had 4 starters suspended and these 4 players are not just good, they are 4 of their best 8 players overall. This made a huge, huge, huge impact on Mt. Airy's defense last night.

I don't want to take away anything from Starmount which played a great game and made it close, but 5 games from now or about halfway through the season, and this Mt. Airy team vs Starmount wouldn't be nearly as close. The offensive line and QB are super talented and they are going to get far better at a rate compared to many others schools because of their inexperience. Mt. Airy had about 550 yards of offense last night. Credit Starmount in conditioning. Mt. Airy came into the game clearly out of shape and not well conditioned. It showed in the second half as they were gassed. Look for Mt. Airy to be a real problem statewide come playoff time, especially as they get the 4 starters back this coming week, and that talented O-Line and QB get more games under their belts, and they get in better shape.


https://www.mtairynews.com/sports/high-school-football/64396/bears-open-with-exciting-45-38-win

This entire post is filled with reasons why Mt Airy allowed Starmount to keep the game close. You said you didn't want to take away from the fact that Starmount played a great game, but said in 5 games this matchup wouldn't be near as close. You took all the credit away from Starmount with your entire post.......
 
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51 times these 2 have met....this one by far the sloppiest...Bears go up 25-7 and hold on....Bears roll up over 500 yds of “O”...Starmount around 350....Rams cut it to one late...Donavon Greene blocks extra point....good, LONG (3 1/2 hours) HS football game....Bears at West Stokes next
 

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I wrote the article, in case you're not familiar with me. I've been here for 17 years. I had to go to the Sheetz in Elkin and file it remotely using their wi-fi access. Didn't have time to get home and do it and make deadline.

Anyway, MA did have four players out that they otherwise would have had, and it's true that they played that game without a single OL who had played the position last year. It's also true that Starmount played their asses off (can't write that, but can say it here), and they were better conditioned, and they didn't quit after falling behind by 18 points twice.

MA will be a vastly better team later on in the season. But all teams get a lot better from their first game to where they are in October. If they played again, Starmount would be a better team, too.

If you're MA, you be glad you held off a tough, well-prepared team that held your feet to the fire for 48 minutes. The Rams are going to be a handful for the teams in their conference.
 
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MA had playmakers everywhere just need line to get better. Starmount uo front pushed us around. #5 Greene .Donavans brother. didnt play will start period. Offensive play calling not the best. Bears definately miss Coach Holder ik i do! Hard game to watch. Starmount is better than advertised. QB good ball fakes and good arm #23 good rb. Good luck Rams and Bears......need to be coached up and need to be better game shape. We were falli g out all over as Starmount had hardly any cramps. Go Bears!
 
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MHS-88 and JSC 1973
First, in response to MHS-88.
The entire post EXACTLY were reasons why I felt the game was as close as it was. I very much did say I didn't want to take away from Starmount. What did I also write in the post? Don't pick and choose parts. What did the rest of the post say? I wrote clearly, credit Starmount. They were better conditioned. That's a plus for Starmount and a minus for MA. As for the game not being as close in 5 weeks from now if they met, I stand by that. It's my opinion and I gave you reasons why I felt that way.

1. 4 bigtime players suspended last night. That's nearly 20% of the team. To be more precise, slightly less than 20%. 4 players are a lot of players.
2. A super talented offensive line of which none of the 5 from tackle to tackle has started until last night.
3. A super talented QB who is going to be special. By the way, he threw for 4 touchdowns and about 350 yards.
Yes, I stand by my opinion (supported with some facts) to support my opinion that MA would in fact, win by a much larger margin in 5 weeks if they played.
4. Completely out of shape MA team. Again, credit Starmount. That means they were in much better shape and that's part of the game and part of being a good team.

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Great article and I agree with your post. I think another poster mentioned what you echoed in this thread and that is...."all teams improve." I agree. I never stated at any point in my post nor hinted that Mt. Airy would be the only team to improve. I did write....in my opinion, "Mt.Airy will get better at a rate far better than many other schools because of their inexperience." To be clear, I'm saying Mt. Airy will be MORE improved than most other teams at their level of competition as the season goes BECAUSE of the youth and inexperience. But, that inexperience at QB and the OL is super-talented and this is why I made my statement. Additionally, add the 4 players next week and in 2-3 weeks, much better conditioned, and you have a formula for a team that in my opinion, is going to improve at a rate far faster, far better the rate of improvement for many (not all) .....but many other teams at their level. Again, my opinion only
 

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Offensive play calling not the best. Bears definately miss Coach Holder ik i do! Hard game to watch. Go Bears!

The game was close and credit Starmount. Mt. Airy scored 45 points and had 550 yards of offense. Better playcalling in the from of 700 yards of offense and 52 points might be tough, lol. Mt. Airy gave up 38. If you win or lose 45-38 in a game, whether you are Mt. Airy or Starmount, it's clear your offense isn't the problem. Give any team a line from tackle to tackle that has never started, coupled with some players suspended, and with a sophomore QB that puts up 4 TD's and 350 yards in his first start with 45 points and 550 total yards, and I will take that all day long. That don't sound like a playcalling problem. The conditioning in the game was obvious and apparent. Starmount was far better conditioned and it showed late as they made it closer. MA was completely out of gas and this was evident on defense.
 

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Yeah what do IK???? Anyone who watched rhis game on ma side and knows anything about fb seen the crap play calling it looked like we were runni g playgroung ball. And most in the stands was saying just that. We scored on trick play and throwing ball up. We had only 10 players on feild alot. And was lost on o and d most the night lini g up. We scored at will bc we have play makers that are unreal.
 

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Yeah what do IK???? Anyone who watched rhis game on ma side and knows anything about fb seen the crap play calling it looked like we were runni g playgroung ball. And most in the stands was saying just that. We scored on trick play and throwing ball up. We had only 10 players on feild alot. And was lost on o and d most the night lini g up. We scored at will bc we have play makers that are unreal.

1. What do you know? I'm not sure what that means or what your implication is.
2. "Anyone who watched the game on ma side and knows anyting about fb seen the crap play calling it looked like were were running playgroud ball." <-----that statement is emotion. Emotion is vague, means little and certainly unproven. I am part of "anyone." I watched it. I certainly didn't see an offensive problem. What are the facts? Objective data and non-emotion?
A. 5 new starters from tackle to tackle
B. sophomore QB, first game of year
C. 4 players suspended
D. 1st game of season
E. The results of all of the above are 550 yards of total offense and the QB throws 4 touchdowns and for about 350 yards, and 45 points are scored.
Notice how I list 5 facts to support an opinion and you give "emotion"?
3. You stated "We scored on a trick play and throwing the ball up." Ok? Do trick plays not count? Do we tell the opponent what play were are running?
4. "We had only 10 players on the field a lot." Good point. That's a problem and it's also the only fact you gave in your paragraph. You stated, "we scored at will because we have play makers that are unreal." If the playmakers are "unreal," then where does the 5 new OL starters and sophomore QB come into play? Are they unreal? Also, you stated, "We score at will." That would be the definition of...…...…..a pretty good offense.

With all of the above stated. You realize Mt. Airy gave up 38 points? You've not made 1 comment about the MA defense in this thread. You've made 2 post knocking the offense or play-calling. Think about that for a reason if you are an unbiased fan living in Charlotte or India or China with no knowledge of MA football and you see the results of the game last night and the numbers. Any, and I mean, any reasonable person would conclude, there is work to be done, but the majority of that work needs to be done defensively. Now, I respect your opinion about MA and you have your opinion. I simply disagree with it.
 
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I will chime in on this, I am an undefeated coach, my thoughts are that starmount team was much better than advertised, Doesn’t matter if you havent play a snap or not , you are there to do a job that you have been prepared to do, lots of positive things to be had , but the line play on both sides of the ball had better improve, that defense last night never put much of a hit on anybody , arm tackled all night long, offense was deff out of sink, a little bit of jekel and Hyde from the bears , this wasn’t the same team that I saw in Winston the week before. I agree with about 99 percent of everything that has been posted , but I have to say , how bout them rams , hats of to them and their coaching staff . For us bear faithful, winning ugly is better than losing pretty and 1-0 is better than 0-1. I have a feeling we will see a whole lotta bear squad in king on Friday night. Meaning what everything every one knows the bears can and will be. By the way I’m an undefeated coach in the stands. Never lost a game and don’t intend to , take that to the bank. So with that said I will leave the coaching to the coaches as I found it is much easier to judge and critique from the bleachers than the sideline where it really matters. Like I said , I bet they fix a few things and we see a different ball team on Friday night and a little better squad each and every week. Then by late November we will have a team that is more than capable of making a run to the ship, geeezzzz it’s game one , tight games make tested football teams , be thankful we just had one, these are the ones that make you better when you are young, you find away to win, doesn’t matter if it is by 1 or 60 it still reads the same 1-0.
 
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Can somebody till me this?
Can a player not call time out any more,
Are does it have to be the coach?
That one play bugs the fire out of me.
 

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I will chime in on this, I am an undefeated coach, my thoughts are that starmount team was much better than advertised, Doesn’t matter if you havent play a snap or not , you are there to do a job that you have been prepared to do, lots of positive things to be had , but the line play on both sides of the ball had better improve, that defense last night never put much of a hit on anybody , arm tackled all night long, offense was deff out of sink, a little bit of jekel and Hyde from the bears , this wasn’t the same team that I saw in Winston the week before. I agree with about 99 percent of everything that has been posted , but I have to say , how bout them rams , hats of to them and their coaching staff . For us bear faithful, winning ugly is better than losing pretty and 1-0 is better than 0-1. I have a feeling we will see a whole lotta bear squad in king on Friday night. Meaning what everything every one knows the bears can and will be. By the way I’m an undefeated coach in the stands. Never lost a game and don’t intend to , take that to the bank
I will chime in on this, I am an undefeated coach, my thoughts are that starmount team was much better than advertised, Doesn’t matter if you havent play a snap or not , you are there to do a job that you have been prepared to do, lots of positive things to be had , but the line play on both sides of the ball had better improve, that defense last night never put much of a hit on anybody , arm tackled all night long, offense was deff out of sink, a little bit of jekel and Hyde from the bears , this wasn’t the same team that I saw in Winston the week before. I agree with about 99 percent of everything that has been posted , but I have to say , how bout them rams , hats of to them and their coaching staff . For us bear faithful, winning ugly is better than losing pretty and 1-0 is better than 0-1. I have a feeling we will see a whole lotta bear squad in king on Friday night. Meaning what everything every one knows the bears can and will be. By the way I’m an undefeated coach in the stands. Never lost a game and don’t intend to , take that to the bank
You hit the nail on the head Gdawg if the line doesn't block and create holes for the running backs you have problems you can't throw the ball 75 percent of the time this kind of thing will get Green hurt someone else is going to have to step up and make plays one man can't carry the team a running game distracts attention from green and kinda frees him up. That is going to have to be established with the line opening holes up front
 
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51 times these 2 have met....this one by far the sloppiest...Bears go up 25-7 and hold on....Bears roll up over 500 yds of “O”...Starmount around 350....Rams cut it to one late...Donavon Greene blocks extra point....good, LONG (3 1/2 hours) HS football game....Bears at West Stokes next
Bareman,how good can this team be by playoff time?
 

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lot of youth on this team in different, important spots....both lines have never played a down together....will get better....D is completely different....QB .......Kicker (note 2nd KO; past the back line..that’s 70yds) 5 players out that will help..plus changes on staff....it’s all a new process....will get better
 

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EW won games like this 45-38 in past years. Makes me wonder with Head Coach calling the D if this is way its going to be.
 

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Not really most of EW wins over the last three years were actually blowouts. The 2015 squad had about 5 or 6 shutouts and gave up an avg. of less than 11pts/gm.
 

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Maybe MA's defense is a weak point for the team. Definitely a lot of offensive firepower. However a win is a win. It just seems the Mt.Airy fans are embarrassed that the game was not the blowout everyone was anticipating. Not enough credit has been given to Starmount for having a lot to do with the close outcome.
 
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Maybe MA's defense is a weak point for the team. Definitely a lot of offensive firepower. However a win is a win. It just seems the Mt.Airy fans are embarrassed that the game was not the blowout everyone was anticipating. Not enough credit has been given to Starmount for having a lot to do with the close outcome.
Yep...
 

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Credit given to starmount here , read my post. Print you were high on the bears all pre season long, what has happened? Have you fell off the band wagon? No bear fans are embarrassed of our squad, we just have high expectations out of program , kids and coaching staff. Print come to king on Friday night and see if this bears team is everything you thought it would be, west stokes is pretty dog gone good, Pryles, I will see you in the granite city the following week when the elks come to town, let’s by us a soda pop and talk about how improved the elks are and excitement about them getting back to the glory days, but let’s see if the bears are improving to the point to make a run, all the squad will be back on the field at that point. I bet yhea by the end of the season comes this team will be as good as everyone thought it would be , and a few other teams will be a lot better than some ever thought, I think it’s gonna be a fun year, I’m hearing east Surry looked good in Ronda, I’ve been high on the cards all summer , but I have to ask how bad is east Wilkes ? Should know more about the pilot cards this week at starmount, should know more about the bears in king. Just excited for the elks as they continue on getting back to some amazing times , those teams of the Grissom era were some of the best of my time
 

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Im still high on Mt. Airy but at the same time, I hadn't given Starmount a second thought honestly. They opened everyone's eyes in a good way. Meanwhile the points and excuses that Mt.Airy are given up kind of takes away from what everyone expected out of Mt.Airy. Im sure Mt.Airy will regroup and get to the level of play that everyone across the 1a realm of the state expects. As for EW..remember how bad they were before JK Adkins took over? They are every bit that bad now. I can't make that statement any more clearer.
 
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I don’t think any of us had given starmount there due, I think I do recall you saying the game could be closer than some of us thought, I think I remember reading that and thinking the same thing, every game is a rivalry game for the bears , next week will be the same. If I’m a starmount fan I’m pretty excited after Friday night. I think probably something we haven’t taken into consideration is how much pressure was on coach Adkins and his squad on Friday night. Taking over behind a legend and a d1 athlete surrounded by several other d2 athletes the bar tends to be set high. I’m sure that pressure was probably felt all the way down the line. I hope the bears are in a few more dog fights before season ends , makes them a little more seasoned , just a little more tough. I think the saying goes , you never know how you are gonna respond till you are hit in the mouth, taste that little bit of blood for the first time, I can tell you what happens , you either lay down , quit , put your tail between your legs and run or you hit back , fight a little harder , hit a little harder and grind out a win . That’s what happened Friday night and this team will be better from it
 
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