Mullen-Jackie Infraction.
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credibility perhaps, but not decision making with respect to football.
but few coaches have true credibility.
not a big deal from any perspective.
but few coaches have true credibility.
not a big deal from any perspective.
Mississippi State is a member of the NCAA because it 17ing has to be to play Division I football. It's not because they love the bylaws or have a hard-on for the leadership of it.
I think he meant well, but he didn't realize that NCAA infractions follow Jackass Sherrill around. He should have, however, made sure that dipshit was nowhere near our players, so in that regard, he made a poor decision to not keep an eye on him. Obviously, he thought Sherrill would know better.
I'm okay that the Kang came to practice, but Mullen should have had a better understanding of what he could and could not participate in. He is at least knows that the only recent success MSU had was under The Kang and he is trying his best to relate the new team to that...hard to blame him for that. Made a mistake that was minor....lets move on.
Is Cleveland really comparing an experienced football coach at a football practice, with a drunk and disorderly arrest, three idiots talking about their perversions on air, and a retard who got a citation and threatened a cop?
State screwed up at little by NCAA rules, but they didn't break any laws.
State screwed up at little by NCAA rules, but they didn't break any laws.
There is nothing wrong with Jackie being at a practice. Tons of schools bring back the past people of success every year and I am sure they help out. Big @%%++$@ deal.
Rick Cleveland is a dumbass who lapped at Crooms's balls especially when we shitcanned him.
Rick Cleveland is a dumbass who lapped at Crooms's balls especially when we shitcanned him.
Compare Rick's take on this great sleazy blunder of having an old coach at a practice to Ron Higgins take.......
<p style="font-weight: bold;">New Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen figured it was a goodwill gesture and a smart move to invite former State coach Jackie Sherrill to an April 10 practice as a kicking coach consultant. Turns out the school had to report Sherrill's visit as a secondary NCAA rules violation because he was seen interacting with players during the workout. NCAA rules allow for the use of consultants to train the coaching staff, but consultants are not allowed to interact with players unless counted as coaches. And there is a limit on the number of coaches allowed at practices. The reporting of the violation is curious because at last year's Ole Miss-LSU game, Danny Nutt, younger brother of Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt and not a member of the Rebels' coaching staff, is clearly seen in TV replays interacting with and apparently coaching players on the Tiger Stadium field in the heat of battle. As long as the NCAA is nitpicking about a silly rule, let's nitpick equally. ...</p>
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/apr/21/ron-higgins-notes-sec-west-spring-practices/</p>
Also this line by Cleveland brings to mind DS and HD's pot and kettle photo......</p><span style="font-weight: bold;">If you know Jackie, you know he couldn't help himself. He's an expert on, well, Jackie is a self-anointed expert on everything.</span>
<p style="font-weight: bold;">New Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen figured it was a goodwill gesture and a smart move to invite former State coach Jackie Sherrill to an April 10 practice as a kicking coach consultant. Turns out the school had to report Sherrill's visit as a secondary NCAA rules violation because he was seen interacting with players during the workout. NCAA rules allow for the use of consultants to train the coaching staff, but consultants are not allowed to interact with players unless counted as coaches. And there is a limit on the number of coaches allowed at practices. The reporting of the violation is curious because at last year's Ole Miss-LSU game, Danny Nutt, younger brother of Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt and not a member of the Rebels' coaching staff, is clearly seen in TV replays interacting with and apparently coaching players on the Tiger Stadium field in the heat of battle. As long as the NCAA is nitpicking about a silly rule, let's nitpick equally. ...</p>
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/apr/21/ron-higgins-notes-sec-west-spring-practices/</p>
Also this line by Cleveland brings to mind DS and HD's pot and kettle photo......</p><span style="font-weight: bold;">If you know Jackie, you know he couldn't help himself. He's an expert on, well, Jackie is a self-anointed expert on everything.</span>
I personally don't see a reason to bring the poster child for NCAA infractions (alleged of course) to practice. Mullen definitely has the right to consult minimally with Jackie on how to win here at state but bringing him to practice simply isn't necessary. I also think it confuses those players who worked under the crooked hat because he constantly bashed jackie as doing things the wrong way. Our players need a completely new direction. Bringing Jackie back in to talk and interact with them links us too closely with the past.
Having me around will always get you into trouble apparently. Hell, Taxas A&M never had me back for a reason. Mullen should have known the rules but this is not a huge violation.
the wrongfully accused MSU of violations and then he goes to MSU and commits a clear violation: not smart.
I thought Arkansas fans were crazy about making a big deal of Danny Nutt coaching on the sidelines at the Ole Miss game. I never knew it was a violation. But I fail to see the difference between what they had Jackie do or Danny Nutt does at Ole Miss. If anything the Nutt stuff is worse it took place during a GAME not a spring practice!!!
against the NCAA about accusations of rules violations. I agree w/ the rest of what you said though.
all the NCAA found on MSU was that an assistant coach said hi to a son's teammate during a dead period and another assistant gave $20 or a tshirt to another recruit. I don't remember exactly but most of the rules broken were very minor. You can look it up if you wish and dispute this.
I realize rules are rules like all you rebels preach, but damn between totally dismantling the MSU football program over basically nothing (USC and OHIO STATE have done much worse), Julie Gilbert and her hijinks I can say I honestly don't blame Jackie one damn bit for the lawsuit.
Mullen realizes that Jackie won at MSU which many many many coaches have been unable to do. So he wanted to consult with him. He probably didn't realize that having Jackie at a SPRING practice was a big deal seeing as how Danny Nutt coaches DURING GAMES, or he just honestly didnt know the rule. The NCAA rulebook is very thick. I am sure you have probably broken a NCAA rule and didnt realize it. I know one thing I guarantee Jackie will not be back at another practice coaching players. I doubt the same can be said for Danny Nutt.
Again this is a nonissue and blown way out of proportion. I am glad that Mullen reached out to Jackie and embraced our "glory years".
I realize rules are rules like all you rebels preach, but damn between totally dismantling the MSU football program over basically nothing (USC and OHIO STATE have done much worse), Julie Gilbert and her hijinks I can say I honestly don't blame Jackie one damn bit for the lawsuit.
Mullen realizes that Jackie won at MSU which many many many coaches have been unable to do. So he wanted to consult with him. He probably didn't realize that having Jackie at a SPRING practice was a big deal seeing as how Danny Nutt coaches DURING GAMES, or he just honestly didnt know the rule. The NCAA rulebook is very thick. I am sure you have probably broken a NCAA rule and didnt realize it. I know one thing I guarantee Jackie will not be back at another practice coaching players. I doubt the same can be said for Danny Nutt.
Again this is a nonissue and blown way out of proportion. I am glad that Mullen reached out to Jackie and embraced our "glory years".
I'm not ready to build a statue to the Kang, but Mullen know there are many ppl in the Bulldog Nation that still love the Kang. So he want so to strengthen the ties w/that part of the fanbase. Jackie knows football, esp ST-why not.
Mullen knows having JWS as an ally is better than an enemy.
Mullen knows having JWS as an ally is better than an enemy.
We had to self-report a secondary violation. BFD. What have we gained? Mullen has opened up an avenue of communication with a coach that has won here and won big. He now has a cornucopia of football knowledge that is just a phone call away. I'm glad he brought Jackie back. He has been shunned for the last five years and deserves better than the back-handed comments that were made repeatedly about his program and his players by Croom. Accurate or not, you don't attack any aspect of a man publicly unless he is there to defend himself. Character my ***. Sure, it went to hell in the end but prior to that his teams were hell on wheels and we loved every minute of it. I think it's worth a secondary violation to have that kind of knowledge at Mullen's disposal. We had a taste of walking on egg shells and doing things "the right way" the last five years and it tasted like bum ***.
i get that he is one of the few to be able to win at state and hence that is why i said " consult minimally with Jackie on how to win here at state". I also get that there are many things that could be discussed as to whether Jackie did or did not purposefully or directly cause infractions to occur. The point is like you said, he is the guy who was in charge. My point is don't bring that guy back to the football field. Consult with him but his interaction with current players is unecessary and counter to making true change in the program.