"Favre is listed," Mullen laughed, "generously listed at 5-11. He can throw it though."
Mullen's Midget
Mullen's Midget
Mullen..."Lil Farve is a midget, but he's my midget"
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"Favre is listed," Mullen laughed, "generously listed at 5-11. He can throw it though."
Mullen's Midget
Mullen's Midget
"Favre is listed," Mullen laughed, "generously listed at 5-11. He can throw it though."
Mullen's Midget
Mullen's Midget
as MSU's future QB, and did he truly fit in. Scott's answer, was no not with the offense MSU was using, due to his running ability, etc. as we know. Then he said, sources (close to the team)
have indicated that Farve would be our next QB after Ralph. Otherwise, we are still looking for the right guy for the job.
have indicated that Farve would be our next QB after Ralph. Otherwise, we are still looking for the right guy for the job.
that we will be CHANGING THE OFFENSE ONCE RELF IS DONE!!!! good grief....State fans pray and pray for a BIG QB...6'2" +....and we get one...and they wanna go to the "little guy"....whatever
would show enough mastery of the QB position throwing the ball Mullen would go in that direction and would be satisfied with limited running from the QB. Hopefully Russell will improve and mature but so far he's shown a tendency to throw to the wrong team and his accuracy has not been what I expected from him. He has thrown some nice passes like the TD to Bumphis against AL but he's also thrown some wild ones like the sideline pass against KY that was 10 yards over our receiver's head. Another factor in making this decision is WR play. If we get receivers in here like Brassell and Singleton to go along with a Bumphis then we will become a much more pass oriented team. Right now we just don't have enough play makers in the pass game and losing Berry didn't help in that area.
to me - he has a 1000 times better pocket awareness than Relf. If the pocket collapses - I think he just won't sit there. So anything behind the LOS, I feel just as if not more comfortable with him over Relf. Until Russell gets better in passing, we have to stick with Relf. Relf is the one who can make a 2 yard gain a 5 yard gain because he is much harder to tackle.
But to me - in straightline speed - there really isn't much difference between Russell and Relf and like I said - I feel much more comfortable with Russell in the pocket because he can actually recognize pressure. Relf just stands there flat footed.
But as it stands right now, Relf > Russell because of what we do.
But to me - in straightline speed - there really isn't much difference between Russell and Relf and like I said - I feel much more comfortable with Russell in the pocket because he can actually recognize pressure. Relf just stands there flat footed.
But as it stands right now, Relf > Russell because of what we do.
we have it. The final piece of evidence. You'd rather be "right" so you can say "I told you so" than TR succeeding.
protecting the ball as he stands flat footed in the pocket and gets hit. That was a big problem early in the year and let's hope he doesn't relapse. Russell is not an instictive runner whereas Relf is in my opinion. I still don't think Relf runs with as much power as he could and if he ever let's it all loose he wil be a double handful. Russell is a serviceable runner in the right scheme but he has to be more accurate passingor he isn't going to make it. I hope he can.
Lil Farve is interesting, moxey, moxey, moxey, he ain't furboy.
Lil Farve is interesting, moxey, moxey, moxey, he ain't furboy.
as much as Ralph limits us in the passing game, Russell would limit us that much in the run game. And right now Russell turns the ball over too much.
Anybody that can't see that Ralph is better for our football team at this point is either related to Tyler, blinded by hating me, or just doesn't know much football.
Has Russell showed some talent at the QB position? Absolutely
Is Russell better than the Henig's and **** we have had there the last 5-6 years? No doubt- especially by next season
Russell to me looks very Jarrett Lee-ish...I think he will make alot of plays in the passing game in the future, should he play...but he will also 17-up alot with turnovers and limit our zone-read scheme...
I'll be shocked if Mullen does what he told Prescott we planned to do in order to get Prescott to enroll early...and until that happens, I say that it really doesn't matter what Russell does this Spring, our QB position will be settled by Ralph's ability to grow in the passing game. Should Ralph improve some more, he will be the QB regardless of what Russell does.
Anybody that can't see that Ralph is better for our football team at this point is either related to Tyler, blinded by hating me, or just doesn't know much football.
Has Russell showed some talent at the QB position? Absolutely
Is Russell better than the Henig's and **** we have had there the last 5-6 years? No doubt- especially by next season
Russell to me looks very Jarrett Lee-ish...I think he will make alot of plays in the passing game in the future, should he play...but he will also 17-up alot with turnovers and limit our zone-read scheme...
I'll be shocked if Mullen does what he told Prescott we planned to do in order to get Prescott to enroll early...and until that happens, I say that it really doesn't matter what Russell does this Spring, our QB position will be settled by Ralph's ability to grow in the passing game. Should Ralph improve some more, he will be the QB regardless of what Russell does.
KurtRambis4 said:
give a **** if Russell succeeds or not, I just want us to have good QB play- name is not important. If we're winning with Russell, Farvuh...whatever...but if Russell does end up flopping, then yeah...that's funny to me after he was being called the best HS QB Mississippi has produced by Afrodawg and the legend that has grown on him
That's a fact. Would you still not want to go with the "little guy" if he was in fact better than Russell??? You are just as dumb as the next guy. It amazes me how some of you wrote off Favre as soon as he was signed based on his height alone, but some of you think Masoli is good and he is 5'11". I want the best Qb to start for us and if he is 5'10" I don't give a damn as long as he can sling it and take care of business. This is an argument that none of us are ever gonna win. The answer will show itself eventually. For the record Favre is good.
Based on various (who knows if they are accurate) practice reports and the way cameras caught them hamming it up on the sidelines during the Bama game.
Maybe Favre sent him a text during the game that said "if I was your QB we'd be beating bama"
I just sense the guy has an extra layer of competitiveness and grit about him that Mullen really admires - so much so that if the raw talents are anywhere close to Ralph/Russell - I think he gets PT next year.
The Spring game is going to be quite interesting especially since Dak will be involved as well. When is the last time you were really interested in seeing what 4 different QB's brought to the table in the Spring game?
Maybe Favre sent him a text during the game that said "if I was your QB we'd be beating bama"
I just sense the guy has an extra layer of competitiveness and grit about him that Mullen really admires - so much so that if the raw talents are anywhere close to Ralph/Russell - I think he gets PT next year.
The Spring game is going to be quite interesting especially since Dak will be involved as well. When is the last time you were really interested in seeing what 4 different QB's brought to the table in the Spring game?
that's where you and I differ. Me, being a MSU fan, would like him to be the next Marino. You, being a jackass douche, want him to fail so that you can seem important (to yourself) on an Internet message board and play "I told you so."
Why are we paying Mullen hundreds of thousands of dollars when y'all could just do it for free?
Irondawg, I have noticed that there seems to be a strong relationship between the two. Almost father-son like. I imagine it is Favre's moxy that he likes.
Irondawg, I have noticed that there seems to be a strong relationship between the two. Almost father-son like. I imagine it is Favre's moxy that he likes.
I disagree. We actually will probably be more effective running the ball because there won't be 9 people stacked in the box trying to stop one thing. In the coming years, if they did that with Tyler and the WR's that we're getting, we're going to burn them just like Derrick Taite did to Tulane in 1994.
As I've said, if Dan can't adjust the offense to the personnel that we have, than he is no better than Croom.
With Tyler, I think we will do what we did when Tyler was in the game against Bama- lots of four-five WR and throw the ball. We will mix in the run some as well, and yes Tyler will run- please spare me your ******** about how he can't and how if he makes any yardage it's because the other team "didn't expect it"- but he will not run like Relf. It will be a lot fewer times, but unlike Relf he won't have to deal with as many defenders in the box.
As I've said, if Dan can't adjust the offense to the personnel that we have, than he is no better than Croom.
With Tyler, I think we will do what we did when Tyler was in the game against Bama- lots of four-five WR and throw the ball. We will mix in the run some as well, and yes Tyler will run- please spare me your ******** about how he can't and how if he makes any yardage it's because the other team "didn't expect it"- but he will not run like Relf. It will be a lot fewer times, but unlike Relf he won't have to deal with as many defenders in the box.
when you put him in the pocket. He just has no awareness of when he needs to take off and run. He just normally stands there flat footed and braces himself when he's about to get sacked.
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">But to me - in straightline speed - there really isn't much difference between Russell and Relf and like I said
</span>Russell doesn't run nearly as fast as Relf.<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"> </span>Russell isn't Peyton Manning, but I'd say at best he runs a 4.85. At best. Relf is much faster than Russell. I'll bet $500 on it.
As far as pocket awareness and getting out of trouble, I agree completely.
</span>Russell doesn't run nearly as fast as Relf.<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"> </span>Russell isn't Peyton Manning, but I'd say at best he runs a 4.85. At best. Relf is much faster than Russell. I'll bet $500 on it.
As far as pocket awareness and getting out of trouble, I agree completely.
I agree with this except I think with only 2 games left it is urgent at this point to get Russell more PT. We've failed in getting him enough developmental reps this season - and Mullen says pretty much that after most games.dawgstudent said:
Relf is the man. But the student needs some classroom time.
and I really didn't see a difference.
And I thought he looked good running the ball aGAINST LSU. And when he comes in - it's obvious what we are doing which might lead to his propensity to be intercepted. (Did you see that big word?)
And I thought he looked good running the ball aGAINST LSU. And when he comes in - it's obvious what we are doing which might lead to his propensity to be intercepted. (Did you see that big word?)
if he has the WR's that are coming in the next few years - he would be better too.
We had 3 drops that would have sustained drives against Bama last week - 1 each by Bumphis, Heavens, and Henderson.
We had 3 drops that would have sustained drives against Bama last week - 1 each by Bumphis, Heavens, and Henderson.
I think Relf is faster too. But Russell is serviceable at running.paindonthurt said:
Did you see the LSU game? Russell ran well against LS freakin U when he had to. On one occasion he actually pushed the pile. Shocked the hell out of me. Russell's running will be fine. I think with Russell there, we pass more and him running won't be a major part of the game plan. But once or twice a game I think he makes a good play with his legs because the defense isn't expecting it.
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